Are Custom Hotkeys Legal on Iccup?

On January 24 2010 15:47 Day[9] wrote:
key remapping was legal at all the WCGs I went to (including grand finals)

On January 24 2010 16:09 SuperKiller wrote:
speaking of, I wonder why nobody made a program to remap keys easily. I remember seeing how it was done years ago, but haven't seen anything since.

If it was more widespread, I don't see why it would be a problem.

On January 24 2010 16:37 EvilTeletubby wrote:


Yeah, Keycraft was released several patches ago, but I don't think it was ever updated. I do believe there were manual instructions on how to do it floating around somewhere.

Anyways, it only modifies local files, there is no way for iccup or anyone else to tell if your hotkeys are modified.

On the morality of it, different versions of the game that come in different languages have different hotkey shortcuts. ie, if I were playing someone with a German version, many of our keyboard shortcuts would be different, even for the same race.

TBH, I modified mine YEARS ago - I moved both Probe and Pylon from 'P' to 'S'. This was not to gain any inherent advantage, but simply because I play random, and it's 10x less aggravating to be able to play all three races in similar fashion (ie, I can hit B - S as both T or P to get a depot/pylon, and hover my fingers over the 'S' + 'D' keys at the start of every game to ensure my initial worker is built).

If I played one race exclusively I wouldn't bother changing anything though. I also don't really play competitively on iccup or at LANs, so from a recreational POV I don't really see any issues with it.

On January 25 2010 00:01 synapse wrote:
I would very much like to make marines "r" and mutas "t"

On January 24 2010 15:47 Day[9] wrote:
key remapping was legal at all the WCGs I went to (including grand finals)

On January 24 2010 16:23 heyoka wrote:


Did anyone use it? I'm surprised, I know at most War3 tournaments it right in the rules that no remapping is allowed.

On January 25 2010 00:12 G.s)NarutO wrote:


For Warcraft 3 I think thats a pretty crappy rule, since there's actually an option to change all the hotkeys while in Starcraft you can't change them :S!

On January 25 2010 00:16 Aux wrote:


You can change them, I did so myself.

On January 25 2010 00:22 Aux wrote:
Right, that's why I'm asking if it's legal on iccup.

On January 24 2010 16:10 zfr wrote:
I'm pretty sure blizzard officially said they would not have key remapping on release.

edit
found mixed info.. lol so yeah not sure about this

On January 25 2010 02:18 Divinek wrote:
It's not illegal as far as the iccup rules go

On January 24 2010 15:47 Day[9] wrote:
key remapping was legal at all the WCGs I went to (including grand finals)

On April 27 2004 03:32 hasuwar wrote:
Here's how I look at this: Do you think they'd let you take a program into WCG to modify the game so you could play in some special way so you only have to press 2 keys to do everything? No.

As for my personal opinion, I DO think this is a 3rd party program..how could you not? It's editing the game files to let you play an easier and different way than it should be played. I think it's gay, and anyone who would use something like it to be a fag.

On January 25 2010 03:02 Ao_Jun wrote:
Lol, i've had P on my mousewheel for so long i sometimes find myself using it to type

On January 25 2010 03:36 eXNewB wrote:
Blizzard most likely looked into the best positioning to put their keys for each race.

On January 25 2010 03:40 TheBB wrote:

No they didn't, they just use the first letter of the command, unless there are collisions.

On January 25 2010 03:43 Nal_rAwr wrote:

no he's right the keys are strategically placed...
hotkeys weren't just randomly assigned half-assed.. they probably spent quite a bit of time on which hotkeys were the best

On January 25 2010 09:35 Aux wrote:

Yet using
QWE
ASD
ZXC

Will cover every hotkey without having to move your left hand.

I'm don't think the hotkeys were intricately designed when they decided to place P on the opposite side of A, when you try to muta micro it gets very challenging.

On January 26 2010 08:45 TheBB wrote:

Yeah, this. If P is strategically optimal, Elastigirl is working at Blizzard. Or maybe it's because "patrol" starts with a P.

On January 25 2010 00:21 G.s)NarutO wrote:


I mean that you cannot change them without using tools / modifying the config files. In Warcraft 3 there's an ingame menu where you can change all the keys.

On January 26 2010 09:58 Aurra wrote:
I remapped all my keys to QWEASDZXC for all 3 races based on the location of the ability/action/unit on the UI "grid". I don't even remember what the default Starcraft hotkeys are.

I could upload it somewhere to save people time if there's enough interest.

On January 27 2010 18:47 bugus wrote:


pls do, i want to try them

On January 26 2010 15:10 RANDOMCL wrote:
Why are so many people saying "if you aren't playing on LAN, then no one can tell"? I don't know much about competitive SC, nor do I play a whole lot (relatively new interest for me), but anti-cheat programs for almost every other game monitor every single keypress you make. I worked as an anti-cheat admin for CAL, and knew a lot about ESEA/CAL/CEVO anti-cheat programs (in reference to FPS games like CS1.6, CSS, DoD, DoDS, etc.), and they definitely know if you rebind keys. In fact, key bindings sometimes came into play (much play hotkeys do in StarCraft) to verify the identity of players to ensure that people weren't ringing for other teams.

I may be completely out of line, but I would hope that the ICCUP anti-cheat could easily log these things.

On January 27 2010 14:28 errol1001 wrote:



Raise your hand if you think Blizzard knew about patrol-micro when they were designing their hotkeys. If your hand isn't raised you shouldn't claim that this shows that they were designed without real thought.

On January 24 2010 15:51 Whiplash wrote:
Its more of a convenience and play style then atv, SC2 will have it so why not be ready for it anyway?