• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:09
CEST 08:09
KST 15:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO8 Preview: Classic, Reynor, Maru, GuMiho0Code S RO8 Preview: ByuN, Rogue, herO, Cure3[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15
Community News
Code S RO8 Interviews - Group A Winners0Code S Season 1 - RO8 Group A Results (2025)0Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)21Weekly Cups (May 5-11): New 2v2 Champs1Maru & Rogue GSL RO12 interviews: "I think the pressure really got to [trigger]"5
StarCraft 2
General
Cómo contactar a Expedia Teléfono Español ¿Cuál es teléfono de United Airlines en Colombia? Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025) I hope balance council is prepping final balance Code S RO8 Interviews - Group A Winners
Tourneys
Delta Airlines Manage Booking – Call 855-200-2631 [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025 Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 19 Tickets for foreigners RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site [ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals
Tourneys
[ASL19] Semifinal B [ASL19] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL Nation Wars 2 - Grand Finals - Saturday 21:00
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Grand Theft Auto VI Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Iraq & Syrian Civil Wars UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Racial Distribution over MMR …
Navane
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 20824 users

[MSL Spoiler] His Overwhelming Advantage - Page 15

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 26 Next All
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 03:26:32
January 24 2010 03:18 GMT
#281
[image loading]


I'm going to translate a passage that Lee Seung Won wrote on his cyworld


Jaedong may be the best Zerg player in the world

But at 4 oclock, there was one hatchery almost dead with one drone

Not many people might know, but this was the biggest point Kespa constantly talked about

At the 7 oclock base, there is 2 gas you can eat, however one of the 2 is an assimilator

And there were no drones at that location

That means there were 2 bases Jaedong was running on

Flash was sending his command center to his Mineral Expansion...

Wait a second, Flash had a decently sized army (Incase you didn't know, we MBC also have the unit counter/resource reader like the other leagues, it's just that we don't stream it)

Jaedong on the otherhand, had 2 half dead ultralisks
9 Zerglings
4 Larvaes producing Zerglings
and 1 Larvae making a defiler

Flash had more than 2 controls groups of marines in that moment

It makes me wonder...

If Flash had 30 more seconds, would he have won set 3


I know I'm sort-of adding fuel to the fire
But I just thought adding in a commentator's point of view is great
dats racist
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:22 GMT
#282
Commentator completely ignores the fact there were two defilers there that had both just consumed a few lings each.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:24 GMT
#283
Also both of them had extractors on them. If you watch the vod you can clearly see this lol.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:24 GMT
#284
And JaeDong's main and natural were both mining which is more than one base.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:25 GMT
#285
And at the blackout there were 7 drones at 7 by my count.

Which game was this guy commentating? It sounds interesting.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 24 2010 03:25 GMT
#286
You translated it wrong. He clearly said "Jaedong was running on both his natural and main" which is 2 bases.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
January 24 2010 03:26 GMT
#287
The commentator seems to be talking about what was seen in the "replayed" vod rather than the extra bit before the black out.
No I'm never serious.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 24 2010 03:26 GMT
#288
On January 24 2010 12:25 koreasilver wrote:
You translated it wrong. He clearly said "Jaedong was running on both his natural and main" which is 2 bases.

whoops sorry lolll I didn't read 본진
dats racist
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:27 GMT
#289
On January 24 2010 01:04 KwarK wrote:
[image loading]
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 24 2010 03:29 GMT
#290
On January 24 2010 12:26 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 12:25 koreasilver wrote:
You translated it wrong. He clearly said "Jaedong was running on both his natural and main" which is 2 bases.

whoops sorry lolll I didn't read 본진

And if you watch a video of the recorded game that was televised, not their "replay VOD" that didn't go all the way to when the blackout occurred, you would see that the bit of the game that went further contradicts what this commentator is saying.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:29 GMT
#291
I forgot to add "1 almost up" to that screenshot too. I think nytefish is right, the commentator is talking about the last big attack Flash did, 20 seconds before the blackout. It was an impressive attack and 2 ultralisks and a few great swarms held it off, killing a lot of marines. The commentator makes a strong case for Flash's last attack being viable. But we saw that attack. We saw the "30 more seconds" the commentator is talking about. JD destroyed Flash's army and Flash abandoned the attack and camped his mineral only.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 24 2010 03:31 GMT
#292
lol jeezes christ I just wanted to add this to the discussion not try and start a fucking flame war with you guys

chill out haha, I don't remember saying I agree with the commentator at all
dats racist
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
January 24 2010 03:31 GMT
#293
Also forgot to add another ultra running in, making it 3.

Plus 2 defilers.

Plus 30 seconds giving Jaedong more time to produce troops.

Plus his 7 expo did have drones there.
We decide our own destiny
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 24 2010 03:32 GMT
#294
NOOB COMMENTATOR.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42259 Posts
January 24 2010 03:34 GMT
#295
On January 24 2010 12:31 MrHoon wrote:
lol jeezes christ I just wanted to add this to the discussion not try and start a fucking flame war with you guys

chill out haha, I don't remember saying I agree with the commentator at all

Well the commentator is saying "anything could have happened in the next 30 seconds". That sounds like it hugely undermines JaeDong's win because it sounds like he's saying it wasn't over. The problem is he's not actually talking about the 30 seconds after the end of the game. That's a pretty huge omission and it's going to cause arguments because people just won't understand it.

Anything could have happened in those 30 seconds before the blackout. Fortunately we saw them all and JaeDong raped Flash's last army.

All in all it's hugely misleading to post it without the context.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 24 2010 03:35 GMT
#296
On January 24 2010 12:27 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 01:04 KwarK wrote:
[image loading]

Sorry, I don't see any drones in that picture and only one extractor.
Jaedong
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
January 24 2010 03:35 GMT
#297
18:34 1 oclock expo clearly up at that point.
We decide our own destiny
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13918 Posts
January 24 2010 03:36 GMT
#298
was plague done yet?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 03:37:57
January 24 2010 03:36 GMT
#299
On January 24 2010 12:35 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 12:27 KwarK wrote:
On January 24 2010 01:04 KwarK wrote:
[image loading]

Sorry, I don't see any drones in that picture and only one extractor.



You obviously didn't commentate the game, you don't know what you're talking about.

I see no drones there either.

edit: lol me too obv.
We decide our own destiny
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-24 03:38:10
January 24 2010 03:37 GMT
#300
This is like double fail.
Jaedong
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 17 26 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 21m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 241
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4040
PianO 676
Noble 28
Sexy 24
Aegong 16
Bale 8
League of Legends
JimRising 780
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1430
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0477
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor149
Other Games
summit1g8919
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick917
BasetradeTV213
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv144
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH294
• practicex 48
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1032
• Stunt445
Upcoming Events
GSL Code S
3h 21m
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
3h 51m
OSC
6h 51m
RSL Revival
16h 51m
OSC
17h 51m
GSL Code S
1d 3h
herO vs TBD
TBD vs Cure
OSC
1d 17h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 20h
RSL Revival
2 days
SOOP
2 days
HeRoMaRinE vs Astrea
[ Show More ]
Online Event
2 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Percival vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Spirit
MaxPax vs Jumy
RSL Revival
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.