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[Interview] Nate MSL Semi-Finals Day 1

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 21:13:58
January 14 2010 13:33 GMT
#1
(T)Flash: "I hope to see Jaedong in the finals."
"I initially wanted to go for 3 consecutive bunker rushes."


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- This is your first ever MSL finals.
▲ I am very glad. But I was still not fully awake so I wasn't able to express my happiness. Deep inside, I was very overjoyed. I have climbed so high, so I have to work even harder to produce good results.

- Are you sleeping a lot because of fatigue?
▲ Yes, and I'm still not feeling 100% yet. Lately, I haven't been able to get good sleep at nights. My condition isn't that good because I was too used to sleeping and waking up late. I will have to learn to manage myself better.

- You have successfully entered the finals of both individual leagues.
▲ I have heard that there are hardly any players who have managed to get into the finals of both individual leagues in the same season. Only great players have successfully pulled this off, so I am very glad that I am able to catch up to such players. I will be extremely happy to win both leagues, and by doing so, I should be able to bring myself to the next level.

- With the OSL finals coming soon, it must have been tough preparing for today.
▲ It wasn't easy. Judging from my builds today, you would have noticed that I was practicing more for the OSL. To me, playing against a Protoss is much harder, and the maps used in the OSL are more favorable towards the Protoss than the Terran. Also, I was really confident in my TvZ skills, and the maps used today were decent for me, so I practiced more for the OSL. If I make up for my weaknesses with more practice, then I am confident I will be able to do well in the OSL as well.

- Your build choices imply that you were planning for a 3:0 victory.
▲ I was. I felt that it would be hard for me if I didn't win 3:0. I was focusing on capitalizing on Kwanro's weaknesses. But in the second set, due to bad scouting, I lost the game without being able to do anything. Despite my loss in the second set, the third set turned out well, which was why I was able to take that game.

- You went for a bunker rush in the second and third set..
▲ I initially planned for three consecutive bunker rushes in the first three sets. I planned to do bunker rushes in the second and third set from a long time ago. I might have gone for a bunker rush in the first set if our positions were switched. My coach said that it would be extremely funny if I went for three bunker rushes in a row.

- The fourth game was similar to the first.
▲ Kwanro is a very aggressive player, which made things tough for me. But somehow, he made a lot more mistakes today than usual. I think I won rather easily when I defended his Mutalisks with my Wraiths and gained a lot of points.

- Who do you want to face in the finals?
▲ I hope to face Jaedong. I have lost to him in the past and to me, he is a very important opponent. Maps don't matter. Even if the maps are difficult, there still are players who defy the maps and win titles. To me, the maps used in the OSL are tough. I cry about the OSL maps a lot (laugh). But on the Grand Stage, I think that it is the players' skills that matter and not the maps.

- Aren't you tempted to leave your mark in history by winning both individual leagues this season?
▲ It is a record that is only held by a single person (TL Note: (T)NaDa). I am now closer to being of similar status, so this is a very important phase for me. It will be a test of my confidence and I think I will even be able to challenge for a fourth, fifth and even a sixth title.

- You are noted for having much less titles as compared to Bisu and Jaedong.
▲ I am not thinking about that. This is not the time for me to think about other players. What matters is that I should do what I must. I feel that I have to push myself to the limit and put on a good show for all the people supporting me.

- You will now have to focus on the OSL finals.
▲ I am only going to think about the OSL finals from now on. Even until the last minute, I will only think about it.

- Any further words?
▲ I am very grateful to (Z)815-hyung who helped me out, despite being his day off. He helped me as though he was practicing for his own match. I plan to treat him to a huge meal. I am also grateful to the Zergs from WeMade FOX, as well as Hwaseung's (Z)Jaedong. Jaedong helped me practice once for each map. I learned how to play adaptively according to different players.

Source: Fomos
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
January 14 2010 13:33 GMT
#2
If you spot any mistakes, feel free to correct me!
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dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 13:44:21
January 14 2010 13:36 GMT
#3
I can't believe I have to throw away the translation I just finished. Thank you, regardless

edit- Took down my translation after spotting errors
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
January 14 2010 13:36 GMT
#4
JD helped him. nice.
Bisu... ;-(
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
January 14 2010 13:38 GMT
#5
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=109983&currentpage=2#28

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Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 14 2010 13:41 GMT
#6
Thanks for the interview.

(T)Flash has some crazy practice partner connections. I'm sure it worked out well for Jaedong too, though (to get a more recent feel for playing against Flash for the MSL finals). By WeMade Zergs, I wonder if that includes (Z)Shine?

vT: Flash gets practice help from (T)fantasy
vP: Flash gets practice help from (P)Stork
vZ: Flash gets practice help from (Z)Jaedong

And that's not including the players on his own team. Yikes.
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 14 2010 13:41 GMT
#7
WTF jaedong helped him ? lol

well i guess it works both ways jaedong gets to watch replays of him vs flash too lol. or something.

thanks konadora!! :D:D:D::D:D:D:D:D:D:DD:D
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
January 14 2010 13:41 GMT
#8
On January 14 2010 22:38 konadora wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=109983&currentpage=2#28



dang. didn't catch that ;;
exshingo
Profile Joined May 2009
Philippines10 Posts
January 14 2010 13:43 GMT
#9
Thanks Konodara!!! Youre The Best!!!
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 14 2010 13:43 GMT
#10
Oh wow, Jaedong apparently wanted Flash to make the finals too. Friendly rivalries are great.
Remember Violet.
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
January 14 2010 13:43 GMT
#11
Wow Flash has got connections... Mad props for him for making to the finals of both leagues. Flash for both SL's!
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 14 2010 13:44 GMT
#12
So Hero, Shine and Roro helped Flash. Thats awesome. And Jaedong practicing with Flash? Thats really nice by them (:
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 14 2010 13:45 GMT
#13
On January 14 2010 22:44 Emon_ wrote:
So Hero, Shine and Roro helped Flash. Thats awesome. And Jaedong practicing with Flash? Thats really nice by them (:


Hero's in STX!
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 14 2010 13:46 GMT
#14
Konadora wrote:
I lost the game without being able to do anything.


kwanro won without doing anything

also whoaaa flash practicing with jaedong oh man.
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 13:47:38
January 14 2010 13:46 GMT
#15
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...

Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
January 14 2010 13:49 GMT
#16
wow! jd helped him and to think there's a great great possibility that they would be facing each other in the finals!

p.s. thanks to kona for the quick interview trans
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
January 14 2010 13:50 GMT
#17
haha I think they are both genuinely sincere when they say they want to play each other in the finals.

I can't fucking wait. If Kal ruins this for me hes getting punched in the face.
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dasanivan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States532 Posts
January 14 2010 13:52 GMT
#18
With jaedong's resolve and ZvP there is no way Kal can beat him in a Bo5. I'm already warming my seat for the Jaedong vs Flash finals. I can't believe the dream finals are about to come true.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 14 2010 13:55 GMT
#19
lol Flash should triple bunker rush JD in the final =D
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6179 Posts
January 14 2010 14:00 GMT
#20
On January 14 2010 22:36 SkytoM wrote:
JD helped him. nice.

JD just wanted to get flash's replays.
IPS.ZeRo
Profile Joined April 2003
Germany1142 Posts
January 14 2010 14:00 GMT
#21
Thanks a lot kandora!

Can't wait for Flash vs Movie now with flash being well prepared. And of course Flash vs Jaedong finals have to be epic.
aka DTF-ZeRo
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2589 Posts
January 14 2010 14:03 GMT
#22
So cool.... JD and Flash being close and showing good sportsmanship!!! the 3 bunker rushes also help Flash not reveal any of his TvZ tricks/strats left in the bag... or so he wants us to think... Hmmmmmm. It only makes Flash vs Jd Finals more awesome
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
January 14 2010 14:04 GMT
#23
thanks konadora, this interview was rather interesting compared to others.
This is my truth, tell me yours!
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
January 14 2010 14:05 GMT
#24
almost went for 3 bunker rushes lol.. congrats for making it to the finals Flash, you'll go down there, JD helped you with this one just to beat you in the finals ;p

thanks kona!
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 14 2010 14:08 GMT
#25
Triple bunker rush would have been awesome, the ultimate homage to Boxer :D
He sounds superconfident and in a good state of mind so can't wait for the finals!

lol @ crying over the OSL maps though
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
January 14 2010 14:09 GMT
#26
if Kal would be Fantasy , JD would have no chance. League Terrorism 4tw :-)
Bisu... ;-(
kulik-
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Czech Republic305 Posts
January 14 2010 14:11 GMT
#27
did anyone who two title in one season,
Terrible OP. Improve your posting or next one is a perma-ban.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 14 2010 14:13 GMT
#28
On January 14 2010 23:11 kulik- wrote:
did anyone who two title in one season,


Nada
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
January 14 2010 14:18 GMT
#29
omg flash is just sick. funny that JD helped him lol must be good friends
Forever Young
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
January 14 2010 14:23 GMT
#30
On January 14 2010 23:18 sung_moon wrote:
omg flash is just sick. funny that JD helped him lol must be good friends


that and seriously who do you think helps jd with vt? hiya and lomo? it's a two way street.
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
January 14 2010 14:27 GMT
#31
The dream final is almost here. Pretty cool that Jaedong practiced with Flash.
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
January 14 2010 14:31 GMT
#32
who was it who won both leagues?
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7805 Posts
January 14 2010 14:34 GMT
#33
Sicccck interview. Seriously thanks :D. Win the OSL Flash!
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66224 Posts
January 14 2010 14:35 GMT
#34
On January 14 2010 23:31 ViruX wrote:
who was it who won both leagues?

4 posts up...
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 14:50 GMT
#35
Konodora is by far the best in this forum hahaha.

Ty man.

I really LOVE to read flash interviews! Bunker rush owns. It shows how confident he is in his micro. He is gonna pwn whoever gets in his front...
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
XiaoLongNuSucks
Profile Joined March 2008
Burkina Faso285 Posts
January 14 2010 14:55 GMT
#36
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


it was a class act Jaedong had there in helping Flash prepare for the semis but i don't think he did it without any motive 'cause in return he also had a chance to study flash's current TvZ better.
Flash is just 2 steps away from being able to carve his name next to Nada's but since big upsets did happen in the past nothing can be taken for granted yet, lol, it's gonna be fun if Flash manage to pull a double flop, may shit be flying everywhere on TL for weeks, i guess.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 14 2010 14:57 GMT
#37
Hope Flash bunker rushes Jaedong 3 times in a row -_-"
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]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
January 14 2010 14:59 GMT
#38
On January 14 2010 23:57 meegrean wrote:
Hope Flash bunker rushes Jaedong 3 times in a row -_-"


leessangrok new limjinrok :O
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DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
January 14 2010 15:09 GMT
#39
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 14 2010 15:10 GMT
#40
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.


Why? That would be the most boring finals ever.
Sullifam
Amarxist
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States371 Posts
January 14 2010 15:18 GMT
#41
Sexy, Jaedong practiced with him. Interesting. Thanks kona!
☺ ☻
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
January 14 2010 15:19 GMT
#42
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


Well, both of them wants to play eachother, so it makes sense if they help eachother along the way. Still, pretty awesome.

On January 15 2010 00:10 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.

Why? That would be the most boring finals ever.


Ye, but funny as fuck...
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 14 2010 15:20 GMT
#43
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
lxginverse
Profile Joined May 2008
Monaco1506 Posts
January 14 2010 15:23 GMT
#44
^ Nada did... winter 02
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 14 2010 15:24 GMT
#45
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.
Jaedong
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
January 14 2010 15:26 GMT
#46
On January 15 2010 00:19 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


Well, both of them wants to play eachother, so it makes sense if they help eachother along the way. Still, pretty awesome.

Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 00:10 ghostWriter wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.

Why? That would be the most boring finals ever.


Ye, but funny as fuck...


Flash should bunker rush Jaedong 3 times in a row and lose each time. Now THAT would be funny.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
January 14 2010 16:15 GMT
#47
On January 15 2010 00:26 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 00:19 HaXXspetten wrote:
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


Well, both of them wants to play eachother, so it makes sense if they help eachother along the way. Still, pretty awesome.

On January 15 2010 00:10 ghostWriter wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.

Why? That would be the most boring finals ever.


Ye, but funny as fuck...


Flash should bunker rush Jaedong 3 times in a row and lose each time. Now THAT would be funny.

That would be pretty hilarious indeed
wat
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
January 14 2010 16:17 GMT
#48
On January 15 2010 00:10 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.


Why? That would be the most boring finals ever.

It would be so epic, that the boring games would be irrelevant.
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 16:31:55
January 14 2010 16:21 GMT
#49
Hahahaha @ "I was not fully awake yet" from Flash

Btw. I really like Flash's play and interviews these days. Really gives him an aura of unpredictability.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 14 2010 16:28 GMT
#50
Triple bunker rush would have been so much more interesting than the one fail one successful bunker rushes that we got from Flash v.s. Kwanro.
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
January 14 2010 16:43 GMT
#51
On January 14 2010 22:33 konadora wrote:
But in the second set, due to bad scouting, I lost the game without being able to do anything.


meh, close enough.


on topic: go FLASH!
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
January 14 2010 16:58 GMT
#52
He will probably go three bunker rushes in the final instead
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Quasimoto3000
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States471 Posts
January 14 2010 17:00 GMT
#53
I would be so pumped if jd 4 pooled
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
January 14 2010 17:04 GMT
#54
i love how this thread is all about JD practicing 4 games with Flash people are going crazy about ~ 1 hour shared pratice
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kanu_knl
Profile Joined July 2008
United States83 Posts
January 14 2010 17:23 GMT
#55
On January 14 2010 22:45 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:44 Emon_ wrote:
So Hero, Shine and Roro helped Flash. Thats awesome. And Jaedong practicing with Flash? Thats really nice by them (:


Hero's in STX!


Hero is in the same clan w/ Flash, "By."
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 14 2010 17:31 GMT
#56
On January 15 2010 02:23 kanu_knl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:45 alffla wrote:
On January 14 2010 22:44 Emon_ wrote:
So Hero, Shine and Roro helped Flash. Thats awesome. And Jaedong practicing with Flash? Thats really nice by them (:


Hero's in STX!


Hero is in the same clan w/ Flash, "By."

Flash didn't mention anything about clan members helping him practice.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 14 2010 17:34 GMT
#57
On January 15 2010 00:10 ghostWriter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.


Why? That would be the most boring finals ever.



that would be the most funny finals ever!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
January 14 2010 17:39 GMT
#58
On January 15 2010 00:09 DyEnasTy wrote:
Dude, if Flash triple bunker rushed Jaedong in the finals.........I will die and go to heaven.


That won't happen. I don't think any Zerg will ever 12 hatch 3 times in a row after Yellow did vs Boxer. Especially Jaedong after seeing Flash bunker rush Kwanro and after Flash bunker rushed him on HBR to knock him out of OSL.
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
January 14 2010 17:40 GMT
#59
On January15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.


I believe (P)Nal_rA won an MSL one season then won OSL the next or vice versa.
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 14 2010 17:43 GMT
#60
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On January 14 2010 22:45 alffla wrote:
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On January 14 2010 22:44 Emon_ wrote:
So Hero, Shine and Roro helped Flash. Thats awesome. And Jaedong practicing with Flash? Thats really nice by them (:


Hero's in STX!


I know (: There's a zerg named hero[Join] on wemade fox though

On topic - Thanks for the translation Konadora!
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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4210 Posts
January 14 2010 17:50 GMT
#61
so flash missed a day of proleague planning to bunker rush kwanro 3 times? lol...
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
January 14 2010 17:54 GMT
#62
Who's going to recruit who to help practice in the Jaedong/Flash MSL finals?
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RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
January 14 2010 17:58 GMT
#63
On January 15 2010 02:54 thunk wrote:
Who's going to recruit who to help practice in the Jaedong/Flash MSL finals?


No idea. It may be hard since I think there may be a break in Proleague around the time of MSL finals so most players would be off(again just speculation, for further explanation check out my posts in the lineup threads). Kal has a chance to beat Jaedong so don't call it just yet.
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fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 14 2010 18:02 GMT
#64
On January 15 2010 02:50 prototype. wrote:
so flash missed a day of proleague planning to bunker rush kwanro 3 times? lol...


Reading comprehension hard? Did you miss the part where he says he's been focusing on OSL training?
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4210 Posts
January 14 2010 18:07 GMT
#65
On January 15 2010 03:02 fallingdream wrote:
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On January 15 2010 02:50 prototype. wrote:
so flash missed a day of proleague planning to bunker rush kwanro 3 times? lol...


Reading comprehension hard? Did you miss the part where he says he's been focusing on OSL training?

that doesn't mean he didn't practice for the MSL
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fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 14 2010 18:10 GMT
#66
On January 15 2010 03:07 prototype. wrote:
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On January 15 2010 03:02 fallingdream wrote:
On January 15 2010 02:50 prototype. wrote:
so flash missed a day of proleague planning to bunker rush kwanro 3 times? lol...


Reading comprehension hard? Did you miss the part where he says he's been focusing on OSL training?

that doesn't mean he didn't practice for the MSL


Did I say or imply that? I was just pointing out that Flash didn't miss a day of proleague just to bunker rushx3 Kwanro.
Etopen
Profile Joined September 2009
United States138 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 18:41:40
January 14 2010 18:41 GMT
#67
On January 15 2010 02:50 prototype. wrote:
so flash missed a day of proleague planning to bunker rush kwanro 3 times? lol...


He can play mind games and make kwanro thinks he's practicing different builds for the msl.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 18:51:22
January 14 2010 18:44 GMT
#68
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
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On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3
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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
January 14 2010 18:49 GMT
#69
KONADORA FTW !!!!!!!!

Thx !!
n_n
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 19:02:04
January 14 2010 19:00 GMT
#70
I've hated Flash for so long. Well, I mean, I've hated his "character."(like in a script) I don't really know the guy at all and I have nothing against him other than he's terran, ugh, and we zerg players have to stay united.

But now, if he does manage a double star league this season, I am going to have to admit, and it's hard to say, it'd be pretty cool.

The catch... is that Jaedong knocks him out of both leagues next season :p

edit: I just realized: If I'm Kwanro and Jaedong helped Flash practice, I'm pissed at Jaedong.
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 14 2010 19:06 GMT
#71
On January 15 2010 03:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3


Flash just got damn lucky his MSL and OSL matches were so far apart.

Jaedong had to play against Calm on one day and against fantasy the next.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 14 2010 19:13 GMT
#72
On January 15 2010 04:06 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 03:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3


Flash just got damn lucky his MSL and OSL matches were so far apart.

Jaedong had to play against Calm on one day and against fantasy the next.

Why so bitter?
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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 14 2010 19:20 GMT
#73
On January 15 2010 04:00 danl9rm wrote:
I've hated Flash for so long. Well, I mean, I've hated his "character."(like in a script) I don't really know the guy at all and I have nothing against him other than he's terran, ugh, and we zerg players have to stay united.

But now, if he does manage a double star league this season, I am going to have to admit, and it's hard to say, it'd be pretty cool.

The catch... is that Jaedong knocks him out of both leagues next season :p

edit: I just realized: If I'm Kwanro and Jaedong helped Flash practice, I'm pissed at Jaedong.


Then it's a good thing you're not kwanro.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 19:50:03
January 14 2010 19:47 GMT
#74
On January 15 2010 04:06 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 03:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3


Flash just got damn lucky his MSL and OSL matches were so far apart.

Jaedong had to play against Calm on one day and against fantasy the next.


Wow thanks for repeating me when I said Flash has a more lenient schedule. The difference is you come off as really angry and decide to vilify Flash. =\

man just last season I could bring it upon myself to say Jaedong was amazing --the best, even-- and still be a fan of Flash. You don't have to diss Flash's accomplishments by calling him lucky. #1 in proleague, MSL and OSL isn't just being lucky.

edit -- actually Flash isn't #1 in MSL. before the semifinals he was 7-1 compared to Jaedong's 7-0. He had significantly harder competition but it's not fair to take away that Jaedong still hasn't dropped a game in MSL.
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
January 14 2010 19:50 GMT
#75
On January 15 2010 04:06 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 03:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3


Flash just got damn lucky his MSL and OSL matches were so far apart.

Jaedong had to play against Calm on one day and against fantasy the next.




moar QQ plssssss!!!
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
January 14 2010 19:54 GMT
#76
I like how Flash was like "eh... i wasn't fully awake." and "oh... well i actually planned to bunker rush him all 3 times in a row"

Flash is a funny guy
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
January 14 2010 19:56 GMT
#77
What's the difference in positions that made him NOT bunker rush in game 1?
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 14 2010 19:56 GMT
#78
On January 15 2010 04:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 04:06 SuperArc wrote:
On January 15 2010 03:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3


Flash just got damn lucky his MSL and OSL matches were so far apart.

Jaedong had to play against Calm on one day and against fantasy the next.


Wow thanks for repeating me when I said Flash has a more lenient schedule. The difference is you come off as really angry and decide to vilify Flash. =\

man just last season I could bring it upon myself to say Jaedong was amazing --the best, even-- and still be a fan of Flash. You don't have to diss Flash's accomplishments by calling him lucky. #1 in proleague, MSL and OSL isn't just being lucky.

edit -- actually Flash isn't #1 in MSL. before the semifinals he was 7-1 compared to Jaedong's 7-0. He had significantly harder competition but it's not fair to take away that Jaedong still hasn't dropped a game in MSL.


Yeah, sorry for the angry tone in the post. I was just upset when you said "early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season"

Jaedong didnt falter in the early stages of the tournament...

Flash has been playing incredible this season and he fully deserves two final appearances, its just... Jaedong deserved it too.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 14 2010 19:59 GMT
#79
oh fuck JD helped, this is gg before it started.

I saw the games, and I cant believe Kawrano went Guards twice. Other than hoping for a ass whopping there is no better choice.
Set 4 he even see 1 of Flash's starports.
Tribulation
Profile Joined January 2009
Norway86 Posts
January 14 2010 20:02 GMT
#80
On January 15 2010 04:56 Southlight wrote:
What's the difference in positions that made him NOT bunker rush in game 1?


I don't think you can make a ling tight wall if you start at 4.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 20:05:08
January 14 2010 20:04 GMT
#81
On January 15 2010 04:56 Southlight wrote:
What's the difference in positions that made him NOT bunker rush in game 1?


edit- derp his position had no way to wall correctly.

I keep thinking Odd Eye is a 4p map when it isn't @@
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 20:06:03
January 14 2010 20:05 GMT
#82
On January 15 2010 05:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
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On January 15 2010 04:56 Southlight wrote:
What's the difference in positions that made him NOT bunker rush in game 1?


They started cross positions. If they started outside of cross positions it would've been a build order win as Bunker Rush + 12 hatch = gg when it's not cross positions. But Flash went 14cc instead which does give him a slight advantage over 12 hatch with cross positions (so any muta/lair rush gets crushed by a booming economy backing 3/4 raxes). Basically, either of Flash's choices crushed what Kwanro went for. Pretty solid sense.

LOL I've seen this mistake made 3 separate times already (including once by me.) Take a close look at the map for Odd-Eye...
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 14 2010 20:06 GMT
#83
On January 15 2010 04:56 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 04:47 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 04:06 SuperArc wrote:
On January 15 2010 03:44 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:24 Avidkeystamper wrote:
On January 15 2010 00:20 Alethios wrote:
No player has won both titles in a single season.

Both (Z)sAviOr and (T)NaDa have held both titles at the same time though.

Nada won both titles in a season, though the formatting back then made the scheduling for MSL and OSL a month(?) apart.


Well, depends on how you look at it. Here are the tournaments:

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/51_KPGA_4th_Tour

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/leagues/50_Panasonic_OSL

Looking at the dates. He was playing the latter stages of the MSL at the same time he was playing the earlier stages of the OSL. The only thing that was a month apart were the finals, really.

It's still very impressive, but it obviously wouldn't be as impressive as winning the OSL and MSL in the same season like Flash has a shot at. The individual finals will be played less than one week apart, which is a much tougher schedule.

THOUGH, amusingly enough, Jaedong/Kal will only have 1 more day of unfettered practice time over Flash, since he plays the OSL finals the day after Kal vs Jaedong. It's only a slight practice advantage. The most difficult part, I think, is when you're in the early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season and, frankly, where every progamer not named Nada has faltered as well. Once you get to this stage it's just playing 2 Bo5s a week apart while taking a small break from PL after fulfilling his duties which, honestly? Doesn't seem that bad for Flash.

I'm just rambling but I think Flash's workload isn't so bad right now and he has a real shot at this. Totally excited. But hell, I'll just be content with an OSL title. :3


Flash just got damn lucky his MSL and OSL matches were so far apart.

Jaedong had to play against Calm on one day and against fantasy the next.


Wow thanks for repeating me when I said Flash has a more lenient schedule. The difference is you come off as really angry and decide to vilify Flash. =\

man just last season I could bring it upon myself to say Jaedong was amazing --the best, even-- and still be a fan of Flash. You don't have to diss Flash's accomplishments by calling him lucky. #1 in proleague, MSL and OSL isn't just being lucky.

edit -- actually Flash isn't #1 in MSL. before the semifinals he was 7-1 compared to Jaedong's 7-0. He had significantly harder competition but it's not fair to take away that Jaedong still hasn't dropped a game in MSL.


Yeah, sorry for the angry tone in the post. I was just upset when you said "early series/group stages of both tournaments and still have to play proleague because you're not that close to title contention -- this is where Jaedong faltered last season"

Jaedong didnt falter in the early stages of the tournament...

Flash has been playing incredible this season and he fully deserves two final appearances, its just... Jaedong deserved it too.


Getting pushed to a game 5 in a sloppy series vs Canata isn't what I'd call Jaedong esque. That plus huge PL obligations -- and FA, I suppose -- all got to him.
Remember Violet.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 20:08:46
January 14 2010 20:07 GMT
#84
On January 15 2010 05:05 motbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 05:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On January 15 2010 04:56 Southlight wrote:
What's the difference in positions that made him NOT bunker rush in game 1?


They started cross positions. If they started outside of cross positions it would've been a build order win as Bunker Rush + 12 hatch = gg when it's not cross positions. But Flash went 14cc instead which does give him a slight advantage over 12 hatch with cross positions (so any muta/lair rush gets crushed by a booming economy backing 3/4 raxes). Basically, either of Flash's choices crushed what Kwanro went for. Pretty solid sense.

LOL I've seen this mistake made 3 separate times already (including once by me.) Take a close look at the map for Odd-Eye...
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I corrected myself! It's such a big, econ heavy map you just automatically associate it with being 4P and thus apply it to 4player rush/econ strats.

CURSE YOU ODD EYE

My point that Flash read Kwanro perfectly stands, though -- 14cc or bunker rush were both the counter builds to Kwanro's 12hatch there, and in doing so Flash's sense was impeccable. :o
Remember Violet.
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 14 2010 20:15 GMT
#85
It's a two player map, but the map isn't symmetrical down the middle. It's diagonally symmetric, which would force you to build buildings side by side instead of top to bottom. iirc, it wouldn't even be marine proof, never mind lings.

As Kwanro vs Light showed, it's easy for a zerg to just run in lings and win the game.
Sullifam
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
January 14 2010 20:29 GMT
#86
WOW if Jaedong practiced with him no wonder he won.

It makes sense too, because of course Jaedong wants to see more of Flash play.

On January 14 2010 23:00 Piste wrote:
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On January 14 2010 22:36 SkytoM wrote:
JD helped him. nice.

JD just wanted to get flash's replays.


yeah pretty much
KTY
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
January 14 2010 21:07 GMT
#87
wow. what IF he had triple bunker rushed
...just wow

OR WHAT IF HE TRIPLE BUNKER RUSHES IN THE FINALS
... epic
cw)minsean(ru
mog87
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1586 Posts
January 14 2010 21:14 GMT
#88
On January 14 2010 22:52 dasanivan wrote:
With jaedong's resolve and ZvP there is no way Kal can beat him in a Bo5. I'm already warming my seat for the Jaedong vs Flash finals. I can't believe the dream finals are about to come true.


Yea and too bad kal has no good zergs to practice with...oh wait. I dont disagree with jaedong being the favorite but to say kal has no chance is foolish, that guy sneaks dts in bases alot so theres always a chance.
AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 14 2010 21:16 GMT
#89
Jaedong vs Flash finals are coming! YES
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
789
Profile Joined October 2009
United States959 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 21:19:12
January 14 2010 21:18 GMT
#90
I'm a little surprised about (Z)Jaedong helping (T)Flash practice for the match. Either Jaedong is a really nice guy, is good friends with Flash, or has alterior motives. Helping someone practice that eliminate you from the OSL, and will face in the finals if both of you win your ro4 matches seems odd. He's either nice or wanted some material to study if he should face him in the MSL finals. Maybe a bit of both.
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
January 14 2010 21:25 GMT
#91
On January 15 2010 06:18 789 wrote:
I'm a little surprised about (Z)Jaedong helping (T)Flash practice for the match. Either Jaedong is a really nice guy, is good friends with Flash, or has alterior motives. Helping someone practice that eliminate you from the OSL, and will face in the finals if both of you win your ro4 matches seems odd. He's either nice or wanted some material to study if he should face him in the MSL finals. Maybe a bit of both.


They're friends and JD is nice
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mucker
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1120 Posts
January 14 2010 21:26 GMT
#92
I hope the finals is three games of Jaedong proxy hatching Flash's 14cc.
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Endurethetoothache
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States51 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 21:40:12
January 14 2010 21:39 GMT
#93
Damn--overkill practicing with (Z)815 against (Z)Kwanro. I mean (Z)Jaedong didn't do that much. (Z)815 is the real (Z)hero here!
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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-14 22:23:37
January 14 2010 22:22 GMT
#94
(T)Flash obviously didn't take (Z)Kwanro seriously...

But how funny would it be if (T)Flash 3-0'd (Z)Jaedong with 3 consecutive bunker rushes xD

On January 15 2010 06:18 789 wrote:
I'm a little surprised about (Z)Jaedong helping (T)Flash practice for the match. Either Jaedong is a really nice guy, is good friends with Flash, or has alterior motives. Helping someone practice that eliminate you from the OSL, and will face in the finals if both of you win your ro4 matches seems odd. He's either nice or wanted some material to study if he should face him in the MSL finals. Maybe a bit of both.


JD/Stork/Flash are buttbuddies i believe
:)
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 14 2010 22:37 GMT
#95
On January 15 2010 06:25 AzureEye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 06:18 789 wrote:
I'm a little surprised about (Z)Jaedong helping (T)Flash practice for the match. Either Jaedong is a really nice guy, is good friends with Flash, or has alterior motives. Helping someone practice that eliminate you from the OSL, and will face in the finals if both of you win your ro4 matches seems odd. He's either nice or wanted some material to study if he should face him in the MSL finals. Maybe a bit of both.


They're friends and JD is nice


I think it's more than that though, JD already keeps on saying that his MSL was so easy so far (which it was) and I do think that he always wants to play the best player, he always says that during group selection, too (unlike bisu for example).

I mean JD vs Kwanro would be an automatic win for him, Jaedong doesnt have undefeatable JvZ anymore but against Kwanro it would be an easy win.
He wants a challenge, he wants to play the best. And that's exactly whats gonna happen if he beats kal
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Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 15 2010 00:45 GMT
#96
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


What? Flash has a pl game, the osl finals and the msl finals and JD has one semis and he's the one with awsome sportsmanship? You're joking right?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 15 2010 00:50 GMT
#97
On January 15 2010 09:45 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


What? Flash has a pl game, the osl finals and the msl finals and JD has one semis and he's the one with awsome sportsmanship? You're joking right?

It was Flash's game, not Jaedong's. Did you know?
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nebffa
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Australia776 Posts
January 15 2010 01:37 GMT
#98
On January 15 2010 05:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:

Getting pushed to a game 5 in a sloppy series vs Canata isn't what I'd call Jaedong esque. That plus huge PL obligations -- and FA, I suppose -- all got to him.


sloppy game!?!?!? wtf? is it just because it actually went to a game 5 that its sloppy? the only sloppy game in this series was game 5 where canata lost very suddenly. just because jaedong had a hard time doesnt mean he played bad, it can also mean canata played really well.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 15 2010 01:56 GMT
#99
No, everyone recognized that Jaedong wasn't playing near up to his standard but were very impressed that he seemed to somehow practice the perfect amount to skate by in the MSL without sacrificing success elsewhere. For Jaedong, that was one of the sloppiest series he's ever won or lost.
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 15 2010 02:09 GMT
#100
thanks kona!

- You went for a bunker rush in the second and third set..
▲ I initially planned for three consecutive bunker rushes in the first three sets. I planned to do bunker rushes in the second and third set from a long time ago. I might have gone for a bunker rush in the first set if our positions were switched. My coach said that it would be extremely funny if I went for three bunker rushes in a row.
SO IT WAS THE COACH THAT RUINED THE BO5
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 15 2010 02:13 GMT
#101
On January 15 2010 09:45 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


What? Flash has a pl game, the osl finals and the msl finals and JD has one semis and he's the one with awsome sportsmanship? You're joking right?


Are you implying that Flash has awesome sportsmanship because he made it far in both SLs?
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 15 2010 02:17 GMT
#102
I think scara didn't quite get that Jaedong practicing with Flash only helps Flash for their semifinals, as Flash is playing TvZ and Jaedong is not playing ZvT
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Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 15 2010 02:20 GMT
#103
Jaedong played 1 game, ONE GAME, on each map. That's only 4 games! Respect for that but people make it sound as if Jaedong was the main practice partner for Flash.

On the other note, triple bunker rush would be so hilarious!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 15 2010 02:33 GMT
#104
On January 15 2010 11:09 hyst.eric.al wrote:
thanks kona!

Show nested quote +
- You went for a bunker rush in the second and third set..
▲ I initially planned for three consecutive bunker rushes in the first three sets. I planned to do bunker rushes in the second and third set from a long time ago. I might have gone for a bunker rush in the first set if our positions were switched. My coach said that it would be extremely funny if I went for three bunker rushes in a row.
SO IT WAS THE COACH THAT RUINED THE BO5

Nope, it was the fact that everyone, including flash and kwanro, knew kwanro has no late game management skills.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
January 15 2010 03:34 GMT
#105
On January 15 2010 11:13 On_Slaught wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 09:45 Scaramanga wrote:
On January 14 2010 22:46 SuperArc wrote:
Is there anyone who shows more sportsmanship than Jaedong? He has his own semi-finals to play and even skipped PL game on Saturday to prepare against Kal, but yet he finds time to practice with Flash.

I am speechless...


What? Flash has a pl game, the osl finals and the msl finals and JD has one semis and he's the one with awsome sportsmanship? You're joking right?


Are you implying that Flash has awesome sportsmanship because he made it far in both SLs?


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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 15 2010 03:36 GMT
#106
lol 3 bunker rushes
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33432 Posts
January 15 2010 04:56 GMT
#107
poor kal
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
January 15 2010 11:36 GMT
#108
The kt coach has a sense of humor
8==========))
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7904 Posts
January 15 2010 12:42 GMT
#109
On January 15 2010 13:56 Waxangel wrote:
poor kal

We'll see, we'll see. Don't call him a dead man too soon.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
January 15 2010 13:28 GMT
#110
On January 15 2010 11:20 Lebesgue wrote:
Jaedong played 1 game, ONE GAME, on each map. That's only 4 games! Respect for that but people make it sound as if Jaedong was the main practice partner for Flash.

On the other note, triple bunker rush would be so hilarious!

This is the point im trying to make, 4 games dosen't mean jaedong has the best sportsmanship ever
Its not like if flash asks JD for some games hes going to deny because he has to practice for his semis
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 15 2010 13:38 GMT
#111
On January 15 2010 22:28 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2010 11:20 Lebesgue wrote:
Jaedong played 1 game, ONE GAME, on each map. That's only 4 games! Respect for that but people make it sound as if Jaedong was the main practice partner for Flash.

On the other note, triple bunker rush would be so hilarious!

This is the point im trying to make, 4 games dosen't mean jaedong has the best sportsmanship ever
Its not like if flash asks JD for some games hes going to deny because he has to practice for his semis


Considering the sick schedule people like jd and flash have I wouldnt say 1 hour of their time is nothing either.
But I think the more important part of it is that is the fact he's helping him at all.
Hell, if I was Jaedong I would talk to kwanro and give him some tips on how to beat flash, cause kwanro in the finals -> easy MSL title for Jaedong (if he beats kal)
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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
January 15 2010 13:55 GMT
#112
Thanks Kona, I hope that Jaedong picked up some knowledge so that after he beats Kal, he has a chance.
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