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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 09 2010 01:36 GMT
#41
I'm a Bisu hater and I don't think he belongs among the top Protosses at the moment. He is certainly performing better than you give him credit for though, and the new guys are really not up to scratch in comparison. I would contend that in this era where Protoss do not dominate the game there would be fewer dragons instead of more. I would say that Stork, Kal, and Violet, with the possible addition of Bisu and Jangbi who seem to have recovered from their slumps, are the only contenders. I also would like to point out that the dragons were a vestige of Protoss dominance, and the term is really being shoehorned into modern times when it is even used.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4209 Posts
January 09 2010 01:38 GMT
#42
On January 09 2010 10:35 Grobyc wrote:
Combat_Ex?

he hasn't lost to cuteangel in the last few months lol
( ・´ー・`)
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 09 2010 01:40 GMT
#43
On January 09 2010 10:30 Roffles wrote:
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On January 09 2010 10:29 Djabanete wrote:
The Six Dragon are Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, free, Best, and Kal.

Those are the Six Dragons. That's what the fans called them and that's who they are.

You quite clearly didn't read the article. Bisu should no longer be considered a dragon because of his recent poor play. All of the other original dragons are still doing rather well, but Bisu is playing very poorly. He no longer deserves the title of being a dragon. He's been degraded to Acorn status now.


I did read the article. I'm just saying that you can't change the titles that have been bestowed on progamers by fans. It doesn't matter if Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, free, Best and Kal all go into a slump forever --- they're still the Six Dragons.

Fuck, remember that thread where each of the six dragons had a badass, hi-res, colored dragon picture with his name? That shit was epic.
May the BeSt man win.
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
January 09 2010 01:41 GMT
#44
troll
bisu fanboy
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
January 09 2010 01:44 GMT
#45
tidyad
brood war for life, brood war forever
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
January 09 2010 01:44 GMT
#46
Lol@ Combat_ex

He should have been one of the 6 dragons anyway, so I'm glad he's finally getting recognition.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
January 09 2010 01:48 GMT
#47
How many fools are going to take the article seriously? Quite a few so far...

Seriously, do you really think the OP thinks Bisu is worse than the Protosses he has in the list?
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 09 2010 01:49 GMT
#48
On January 09 2010 10:48 Slow Motion wrote:
How many fools are going to take the article seriously? Quite a few so far...

Seriously, do you really think the OP thinks Bisu is worse than the Protosses he has in the list?

Actually, I do. His play as of late has been very sloppy, very unspectacular. He has fallen far and fallen fast.
God Bless
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 09 2010 01:55 GMT
#49
On January 09 2010 10:49 Roffles wrote:
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On January 09 2010 10:48 Slow Motion wrote:
How many fools are going to take the article seriously? Quite a few so far...

Seriously, do you really think the OP thinks Bisu is worse than the Protosses he has in the list?

Actually, I do. His play as of late has been very sloppy, very unspectacular. He has fallen far and fallen fast.
imo ur right on that at least, but 'the ten dragons', just how many dragon slayers do you think there are
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
Sosha
Profile Joined August 2004
United States749 Posts
January 09 2010 01:57 GMT
#50
Ya, kinda 'weak' or low-caliber stats and attributes to include such players in the List of the Dragons, like Stats, Violet or Pure. I mean, I love Protoss to death and definately support the race, but Violet and Pure just haven't really been cuttin' it that sharp (despite a few gg's here n there), I dont think they're really on par, today, as the Dragons were in the past. The original 6 was dominating the scene! With Bisu and Jangbi making it to 2 finals at the time, ClubDay and the Gom tv season 2, both of which Bisu won.

Sure, getting into the RO16 in a Starleague is awesome and obviously says a lot about their skill and improvements but I think Semi's or getting to finals is more of a bold statement, obviously. RO 16's are like "the nitty-gritty" and the best of the best of that tournament, and theres been a lot of players to get there of varying skill that may or may not have deserved it. Players like Stork and Jangbi, to get to semi's and final stages numerous times (even if they fall short) is a new criteria of accomplishments to merit their involvement and label as a Dragon.

I'll admit, and support though, Movie is moving quickly up the ranks and in terms of performance. He's made it to the finals of the OSL going up against Flash and this will truely be his test of Protoss understanding and might. I'm not even concerned if he wins, although i truely do hope that he does! Even if he manages to put up a good fight in most games, or win a few, cutting it to a close series like 2-3 or so, then i'll be proud and accept him as a 'Dragon', or at least, the next Protoss player to look out for. He had a very good series against Shine, who seemingly came out of nowhere and had pretty shocking results getting to the semi's etc. I just hope he doesn't get nervous/star-struck and lose a dismal 0-3 in the finals.. even though he is going up against Flash.

I think Guemchi might even be doing a bit better.. but still, StatS, Violet and Pure.. aren't really up to par with someone like Movie's success of the former success of the 'classic' Dragons.

very dissapointing to hear about Bisu's latest results and progress. He definately carried the torch high and proudly as the leader in the Protoss revolution.
En Taro Bisu!

gL
Tranquility through fluid Motion. GlowBabyGlow.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
January 09 2010 01:58 GMT
#51
this article is truly one of a kind

It really brings a new perspective, and I agree that Bisu is no longer a dragon. He simply isn't posting the results, but Guemchi, Pure, and Stats? Terrible players.

6 dragons = Stork, Movie, Kal, Free, BeSt, Jangbi

ez

Violet still needs to figure out if he isn't just another newbie :D
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
January 09 2010 01:59 GMT
#52
1. There will never be ten Protoss dragons
2. Guemchi is not a dragon
3. If there are 10 P dragons, there are 50 Z dragons

etc etc.
Nony is Bonjwa
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
January 09 2010 01:59 GMT
#53
Zerg doesn't have dragons though.
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 09 2010 02:02 GMT
#54
On January 09 2010 10:07 domane wrote:
I disagree about Stats, Guemchi, and Pure. But I agree Violet and Movie definitely deserve your hype.


what are u talking about? Stats is VeryGood player find the game he played vs Fantasy on destination look what am talking about Pure and Guemchi i can agree with u
but Stats will be the next OSL or MSL winner imo.
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4209 Posts
January 09 2010 02:02 GMT
#55
On January 09 2010 10:59 aers wrote:
Zerg doesn't have dragons though.

someone should create a thread about the ten maestros and how savior is no longer a maestro
( ・´ー・`)
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 02:04:10
January 09 2010 02:02 GMT
#56
On January 09 2010 10:21 Roffles wrote:
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On January 09 2010 10:15 Mortality wrote:
Edit: Also, I'd like to point out that the dragon title had nothing to do with Norse mythology. Ever.

No, actually, dragons are everywhere in Norse mythology.


Uhm... Where?

There are like 2, tops.
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
January 09 2010 02:04 GMT
#57
[image loading]

Until your 10 dragons have an image like this, I'm going to disregard your article.
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I call troll.
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 02:12:25
January 09 2010 02:10 GMT
#58
Ok... I'm no Bisu fanboy but taking Bisu from the 6 dragons is just ridiculous. He has been losing important individual tourny games, true. But it looks like the OP didn't even check Bisu's stats with his own requirements (no research). He has like at least 2 wins for every loss. And yes, he has won every ace match he has been in this season, which is one.

I agree he shouldn't be considered the undisputed best protoss anymore, but taking him out of the list for the current top protoss players is alittle retarded and pretty premature.

Btw, free has only played 1 ace match and he didn't get any farther than Bisu in MSL or OSL and has been losing almost 50% of his PL games this season. If you think Bisu doesn't qualify, Free sure as hell does not qualify.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 09 2010 02:12 GMT
#59
On January 09 2010 11:04 GGQ wrote:
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[image loading]


You just saved the thread. Wow.
May the BeSt man win.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 02:21:18
January 09 2010 02:13 GMT
#60
This is so silly lol.

1) Bisu is 13-4 in Proleague and has a 64.6 career winning percentage, which is the highest of any Protoss right now. (You obviously can't count guys with 2-0 record. Just look at Bisu's sample) The man has a 67% in PvZ.

2) Your requirements are ridiculously arbitrary. It seems like you came up with requirement that Bisu can't meet. Guemchi somehow stumbles to the RO16 this season and deserves to replace Bisu? Give me a break.

3) Six Dragons was a term specifically referring to Bisu, Stork, Jangbi, Free, BeSt and Kal. It's not a substitute term for a "good Protoss player." Even though Boxer and Savior are bad now we don't remove their titles of "The Emperor" or "The Maestro."
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