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Tx for this.  Be glad Livestream wasn't up so you didn't have to witness Shine kicking Stork out of the league. 
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Seriously, how can you still hate Shine? The dude is all manner.
On December 25 2009 21:31 SilverskY wrote:
Calm is talking mad cocky. I hope he gets his ass stomped 3-0.
Seriously, what was he supposed to say? I'm not confident I will win? I was secretly rooting for Jaedong? I don't care if I lose? -_-
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am i the only one excited for the semis? calm vs flash probably wont be as one sided as most of you think and movie's pvsz, which is somewhat different from stork and bisus, vs shines overly aggressive style of zvsp should be interesting
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Flash proxied a barracks and pulled 5 SCVs to bunker rush. To my mind, that's cheese.
I can't help but think that if Jaedong had won a game with 9 pool against Flash playing standard, you would say that was cheese. And 9 pool is not cheese at all- at the very least, far less cheese than what Flash went with.
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Protoss, Flash's natural enemy.
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Damn that was fast. Thanks for the interview after a rather chaotic night
Go Movie! Believe in yourself you can do it kid!
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
sdweeeet thanks!! :D:D:D:D
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On December 25 2009 23:22 Zozma wrote:
Flash proxied a barracks and pulled 5 SCVs to bunker rush. To my mind, that's cheese.
I can't help but think that if Jaedong had won a game with 9 pool against Flash playing standard, you would say that was cheese. And 9 pool is not cheese at all- at the very least, far less cheese than what Flash went with.
I'm pretty sure flash would have been ahead even if he didn't bunker rush, but he scouted the 12 hatch and realized that he could pull off a successful bunker rush, and did so.
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Shine actually seems like a really nice guy, i can't hate him even though I'm a huge Stork fan 
oh well, there's always next season
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I gotta admit... Shine is pretty gosu >,<
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nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo jaedonggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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On December 25 2009 21:30 mmgoose wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:28 darktreb wrote:On December 25 2009 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:24 darktreb wrote:On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:19 lazz wrote:-Was the bunker rush an improvised strategy?
▲No, it was a strategy that required considerable timing and preparation. That's why I prepared it very careful. I knew that it would work, so I pushed out confidently and I think that it turned out very well.
-Would it have been dangerous for you if your opponent didn't go 12hatch?
▲Even if he didn't go 12hatch, it would have been a usable strategy. Despite the early marine production, I knew where to scout to capture the overlords thanks to my preparation. Even if he decided to choose a different strategy, I still would have had a chance to win. people calling 8 rax cheese need to read this and have a deep long think about what they're saying Hillarious. He says he would have had a chanse to win. You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. So it's not cheese, right? (Oystein had a guide written on it iirc) These rabid flashfans are so ridiculous, stating he did not cheese. Yeah Flash cheesed Jaedong. It was brilliant and he advanced. He also absolutely destroyed him straight up in game 1. I can't believe JD fans are still talking. Did you read that i said Flash does not deserve to advance? No. I say he cheesed, which is clear as the Sun, and i dont like ppl who say the white wall is black. He cheesed, he won, he's also currently the better player - are we done here? i think jaedong fans have a right to vent their frustration however ridiculous the delusional arguments may be,
dont really now what are you talking about, but whatever, i'm talking about cheese, find a better place for your anti-jd fanatism.
For some ppl apparently beside BBS in the middle of the map and pullin 3/4 of the scvs nothing is cheese in TvZ, i got nothing to say to them.
On December 25 2009 21:40 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:24 darktreb wrote:On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:19 lazz wrote:-Was the bunker rush an improvised strategy?
▲No, it was a strategy that required considerable timing and preparation. That's why I prepared it very careful. I knew that it would work, so I pushed out confidently and I think that it turned out very well.
-Would it have been dangerous for you if your opponent didn't go 12hatch?
▲Even if he didn't go 12hatch, it would have been a usable strategy. Despite the early marine production, I knew where to scout to capture the overlords thanks to my preparation. Even if he decided to choose a different strategy, I still would have had a chance to win. people calling 8 rax cheese need to read this and have a deep long think about what they're saying Hillarious. He says he would have had a chanse to win. You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. So it's not cheese, right? (Oystein had a guide written on it iirc) These rabid flashfans are so ridiculous, stating he did not cheese. Yeah Flash cheesed Jaedong. It was brilliant and he advanced. He also absolutely destroyed him straight up in game 1. I can't believe JD fans are still talking. Did you read that i said Flash does not deserve to advance? No. I say he cheesed, which is clear as the Sun, and i dont like ppl who say the white wall is black. A white wall can be black if there is no light ^^
had to be said i guess...
On December 25 2009 21:49 writer22816 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:
You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. No, you wouldn't.
I could only recommend Oystein's thread, apparently the search function is broken (is it just me?) but he explains the build, and even gives a rep where he deals the least ammonut of dmg with the 6pool and still trasitions into normal play nicely. It's cheese, just as proxy 7 or 8rax, or athor porxies.
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On December 25 2009 21:24 darktreb wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:19 lazz wrote:-Was the bunker rush an improvised strategy?
▲No, it was a strategy that required considerable timing and preparation. That's why I prepared it very careful. I knew that it would work, so I pushed out confidently and I think that it turned out very well.
-Would it have been dangerous for you if your opponent didn't go 12hatch?
▲Even if he didn't go 12hatch, it would have been a usable strategy. Despite the early marine production, I knew where to scout to capture the overlords thanks to my preparation. Even if he decided to choose a different strategy, I still would have had a chance to win. people calling 8 rax cheese need to read this and have a deep long think about what they're saying Hillarious. He says he would have had a chanse to win. You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. So it's not cheese, right? (Oystein had a guide written on it iirc) These rabid flashfans are so ridiculous, stating he did not cheese. Yeah Flash cheesed Jaedong. It was brilliant and he advanced. He also absolutely destroyed him straight up in game 1. I can't believe JD fans are still talking.
IF Jaedong fans didnt bitch about how he mis microed 1 unit, got cheesed, played poorly, lokoed tired, is overworked, didnt really practice, did a stupid decision
they wouldnt be true jaedong fans.
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marcoso
Brazil818 Posts
It's awesome how almost all top players are Flash's "hyung".
And thanks GhostWriter, for the translations! =)
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Everyone suddenly talks about 8rax -> bunker rush being some kind of imba 100% win strategy
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On December 25 2009 21:25 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:23 lazz wrote:On December 25 2009 21:21 DragoonPK wrote:On December 25 2009 21:19 lazz wrote:-Was the bunker rush an improvised strategy?
▲No, it was a strategy that required considerable timing and preparation. That's why I prepared it very careful. I knew that it would work, so I pushed out confidently and I think that it turned out very well.
-Would it have been dangerous for you if your opponent didn't go 12hatch?
▲Even if he didn't go 12hatch, it would have been a usable strategy. Despite the early marine production, I knew where to scout to capture the overlords thanks to my preparation. Even if he decided to choose a different strategy, I still would have had a chance to win. people calling 8 rax cheese need to read this and have a deep long think about what they're saying Its cheese, but its perfected cheese. Thats why it worked. It's not cheese though, because it's not all-in. He knew it would work. it had a definite pay off. that's not cheese. ugh, there s been a long time since i saw some1 stating sg so obviously wrong with this dedication. I thhink it was taht finnish guy in PR like half a year ago. Just go to bed, kid.
Couple of hours ago I saw some Romanian guy stating Flash went 6 rax. Any idea who may that be?
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On December 26 2009 00:05 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:30 mmgoose wrote:On December 25 2009 21:28 darktreb wrote:On December 25 2009 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:24 darktreb wrote:On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:19 lazz wrote:-Was the bunker rush an improvised strategy?
▲No, it was a strategy that required considerable timing and preparation. That's why I prepared it very careful. I knew that it would work, so I pushed out confidently and I think that it turned out very well.
-Would it have been dangerous for you if your opponent didn't go 12hatch?
▲Even if he didn't go 12hatch, it would have been a usable strategy. Despite the early marine production, I knew where to scout to capture the overlords thanks to my preparation. Even if he decided to choose a different strategy, I still would have had a chance to win. people calling 8 rax cheese need to read this and have a deep long think about what they're saying Hillarious. He says he would have had a chanse to win. You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. So it's not cheese, right? (Oystein had a guide written on it iirc) These rabid flashfans are so ridiculous, stating he did not cheese. Yeah Flash cheesed Jaedong. It was brilliant and he advanced. He also absolutely destroyed him straight up in game 1. I can't believe JD fans are still talking. Did you read that i said Flash does not deserve to advance? No. I say he cheesed, which is clear as the Sun, and i dont like ppl who say the white wall is black. He cheesed, he won, he's also currently the better player - are we done here? i think jaedong fans have a right to vent their frustration however ridiculous the delusional arguments may be, dont really now what are you talking about, but whatever, i'm talking about cheese, find a better place for your anti-jd fanatism. For some ppl apparently beside BBS in the middle of the map and pullin 3/4 of the scvs nothing is cheese in TvZ, i got nothing to say to them. Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:40 Scaramanga wrote:On December 25 2009 21:26 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:24 darktreb wrote:On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:On December 25 2009 21:19 lazz wrote:-Was the bunker rush an improvised strategy?
▲No, it was a strategy that required considerable timing and preparation. That's why I prepared it very careful. I knew that it would work, so I pushed out confidently and I think that it turned out very well.
-Would it have been dangerous for you if your opponent didn't go 12hatch?
▲Even if he didn't go 12hatch, it would have been a usable strategy. Despite the early marine production, I knew where to scout to capture the overlords thanks to my preparation. Even if he decided to choose a different strategy, I still would have had a chance to win. people calling 8 rax cheese need to read this and have a deep long think about what they're saying Hillarious. He says he would have had a chanse to win. You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. So it's not cheese, right? (Oystein had a guide written on it iirc) These rabid flashfans are so ridiculous, stating he did not cheese. Yeah Flash cheesed Jaedong. It was brilliant and he advanced. He also absolutely destroyed him straight up in game 1. I can't believe JD fans are still talking. Did you read that i said Flash does not deserve to advance? No. I say he cheesed, which is clear as the Sun, and i dont like ppl who say the white wall is black. A white wall can be black if there is no light ^^ had to be said i guess... Show nested quote +On December 25 2009 21:49 writer22816 wrote:On December 25 2009 21:23 Geo.Rion wrote:
You have decent chanse to win even if you fail with 6 pool. No, you wouldn't. I could only recommend Oystein's thread, apparently the search function is broken (is it just me?) but he explains the build, and even gives a rep where he deals the least ammonut of dmg with the 6pool and still trasitions into normal play nicely. It's cheese, just as proxy 7 or 8rax, or athor porxies.
So you just want to discuss what is cheese and what is not, and none of this has anything to do with you just being a butthurt fanboy? Cool.
I can almost taste your tears from here.
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God damn it, I wanted Stork to win for a finals matchup with Flash. Every other possibility now is pretty underwhelming in comparison.
On a different note, how Flash won that game was a pretty good reminder how lame Terran can be in TvZ.
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Shine remember this interview because this will be your last OSL interview.
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Does anyone have netizen comments?
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