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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Flash v.s. Shine OSL final would be almost worse than a ZvZ final. Almost. BTW, my jaw dropped when Flash 8 rax bunker rushed Jaedong. WHO THE HELL DOES A CHEESE AGAINST YOUR STRONGEST RIVAL IN FRONT OF THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE ON CHRISTMAS? Also, screw those guys who claim Flash's strategy isn't cheese. There is no dictionary definition for cheese. There is no wikipedia entry on starcraft "cheese". It is CHEESE when the player pulls off a cheesy move to end the game in an anti-climatic fashion. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On December 26 2009 03:36 blade55555 wrote: Ah I knew Flash would cheese Jaedong. I knew he wouldn't have the balls to play him in a straight up game he knew he would lose this time. Gotta cheese someone who's superior to you ^^. Yea you are so right.... Don't drown in your own tears now, that would be really sad. | ||
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ItsBigfoot
United States432 Posts
On December 26 2009 03:36 blade55555 wrote: Ah I knew Flash would cheese Jaedong. I knew he wouldn't have the balls to play him in a straight up game he knew he would lose this time. Gotta cheese someone who's superior to you ^^. On December 26 2009 02:57 darktreb wrote: Stuff like this is what makes it hard to take JD fans seriously. Cause you know, JD has looked completely unbeatable in standard ZvT lately and crushed Flash in standard play last week ... oh wait it's the other way around. Thanks for the translations! this was literally one post above you, it made me laugh looking forward to a (hopefully) flash vs shine final, they're both really well mannered, and pretty entertaining to watch | ||
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Lovin
Denmark812 Posts
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:00 dukethegold wrote: Even against all odds, I will root for Movie. I am anti-Shine fan for life. Flash v.s. Shine OSL final would be almost worse than a ZvZ final. Almost. BTW, my jaw dropped when Flash 8 rax bunker rushed Jaedong. WHO THE HELL DOES A CHEESE AGAINST YOUR STRONGEST RIVAL IN FRONT OF THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE ON CHRISTMAS? Also, screw those guys who claim Flash's strategy isn't cheese. There is no dictionary definition for cheese. There is no wikipedia entry on starcraft "cheese". It is CHEESE when the player pulls off a cheesy move to end the game in an anti-climatic fashion. What? Early game aggression is way more exciting than your ordinary expand, wait 10 min, start moving out. | ||
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
On December 26 2009 02:14 SimonB wrote: Yeah, 8rax is much more akin to 9pool. Flash only pulled SCVs when he saw a 12 hatch. If that's your definition of cheese, whatever, but it was an awesome strategy. Is this like the first TvZ you have ever watched? Seriously, we're calling a proxy rax into bunker rush an "awesome strategy" now? | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:00 dukethegold wrote: Even against all odds, I will root for Movie. I am anti-Shine fan for life. Flash v.s. Shine OSL final would be almost worse than a ZvZ final. Almost. BTW, my jaw dropped when Flash 8 rax bunker rushed Jaedong. WHO THE HELL DOES A CHEESE AGAINST YOUR STRONGEST RIVAL IN FRONT OF THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE ON CHRISTMAS? Also, screw those guys who claim Flash's strategy isn't cheese. There is no dictionary definition for cheese. There is no wikipedia entry on starcraft "cheese". It is CHEESE when the player pulls off a cheesy move to end the game in an anti-climatic fashion. Boxer says hi. Also, playing predictably ultimately leads to defeat. By varying one's playstyle, one can ensure they can keep opponents off-balance. Remember Flash is also playing for an OSL trophy along with prize money. Why the hell would he potentially give that all up on the basis of pleasing people who rave, "IHATECHEESEITHASTODIE!" He's playing for something too, not just trying to entertain the fans. | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:22 FieryBalrog wrote: Is this like the first TvZ you have ever watched? Seriously, we're calling a proxy rax into bunker rush an "awesome strategy" now? Maybe how Flash analyzed the map and found out the perfect barracks placement and timing of it (7 rax not 8 rax, BIG TIMING DIFFERENCE) to kill the first overlord. Jaedong didn't analyze the map and never found out about this and walked right into Flashs trap. Maybe you should watch more TvZ? No Jaedong crying fanboys answered this yet, no arguments left huh? It's funny how D- players think they know anything about Starcraft too (this thread is flooded by them, it's obvious) | ||
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dcberkeley
Canada844 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:00 dukethegold wrote: Even against all odds, I will root for Movie. I am anti-Shine fan for life. Flash v.s. Shine OSL final would be almost worse than a ZvZ final. Almost. BTW, my jaw dropped when Flash 8 rax bunker rushed Jaedong. WHO THE HELL DOES A CHEESE AGAINST YOUR STRONGEST RIVAL IN FRONT OF THE BIGGEST AUDIENCE ON CHRISTMAS? Also, screw those guys who claim Flash's strategy isn't cheese. There is no dictionary definition for cheese. There is no wikipedia entry on starcraft "cheese". It is CHEESE when the player pulls off a cheesy move to end the game in an anti-climatic fashion. Yeah, cus Flash gives a shit what you want for Christmas right? | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:27 dcberkeley wrote: Yeah, cus Flash gives a shit what you want for Christmas right? No, but he should give a shit about the hundreds of thousands if not millions of Korean fans who tuned in on Christmas just for Flash v.s. Jaedong. Flash might as well give a shit about Jaedong practicing his ass off for a good game against him as well as a sign of respect. Flash was one game up over Jaedong. He was by no means in a desperate situation. Surely for the sake of showmanship, show the audience a better game! On December 26 2009 04:21 Zoler wrote: What? Early game aggression is way more exciting than your ordinary expand, wait 10 min, start moving out. Early aggression is exciting, yes. But one that ends the game in an anti-climatic fashion, no. The fate of the entire Protoss race and the succession of the Legend of Fall now rest on the shoulders of Movie... | ||
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Neighbor
United States119 Posts
Anyways, congratz to Flash. He might just win an OSL by winning nothing but TvZ games. | ||
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Apex
United States7227 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:32 dukethegold wrote: No, but he should give a shit about the hundreds of thousands if not millions of Korean fans who tuned in on Christmas just for Flash v.s. Jaedong. Flash might as well give a shit about Jaedong practicing his ass off for a good game against him as well as a sign of respect. Flash was one game up over Jaedong. He was by no means in a desperate situation. Surely for the sake of showmanship, show the audience a better game! Why the hell does he care? He's playing for an OSL trophy and prize money. If you're playing for (this isn't the actual prize pool but a comparison), $60,000 in a tournament and you're going up against your opponent, are you going to win by all means possible or are you going to sit there wondering, "Hmmm...would this strategy please the fans...or would this one?" All the moaning about Flash not pleasing the fans sounds more like whining to me. Plus, there are Flash fans who would be happy with Flash's win and further advancement into the OSL. Lol, all this hate brings back memories of Fantasy cheesing JD in the Proleague finals. Anyways, congratz to Flash. He might just win an OSL by winning nothing but TvZ games. Haha, I'm going to use the search function to see the response to Boxer v. Yellow (when Boxer bunker rushed 3 times). Imagine the hate that would have brought. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On December 26 2009 04:32 dukethegold wrote: No, but he should give a shit about the hundreds of thousands if not millions of Korean fans who tuned in on Christmas just for Flash v.s. Jaedong. Flash might as well give a shit about Jaedong practicing his ass off for a good game against him as well as a sign of respect. Flash was one game up over Jaedong. He was by no means in a desperate situation. Surely for the sake of showmanship, show the audience a better game! Early aggression is exciting, yes. But one that ends the game in an anti-climatic fashion, no. The fate of the entire Protoss race and the succession of the Legend of Fall now rest on the shoulders of Movie... If you're going to blame someone for the game ending quickly, blame Jaedong. He's the one who screwed up. Flash just came in with a good strategy and took advantage of his opponent's mistakes. | ||
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Charlee
United States60 Posts
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Slow Motion
United States6960 Posts
How shitty would that make JD and Flash fans feel? I love it when my player beats another who's playing 100% to win. If my guy won, but I knew the other dude wasn't playing seriously, that cheapens my guy's win. The more JD fans are disrespecting Flash here, the more they're actually spitting on JD. | ||
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Chen
United States6344 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:05 Slow Motion wrote: I like how someone is actually arguing Flash should have chosen a different strat for "showmanship". Imagine if Flash lost to Jaedong by using some crazy firebat strat, and then said in interviews, "I could have beaten JD easily but winning wasn't my main goal, it was to entertain." How shitty would that make JD and Flash fans feel? I love it when my player beats another who's playing 100% to win. If my guy won, but I knew the other dude wasn't playing seriously, that cheapens my guy's win. The more JD fans are disrespecting Flash here, the more they're actually spitting on JD. Boxer's said his main goal is to entertain the fans, which is why he does crazy shit like nukes and valks | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:10 Chen wrote: Boxer's said his main goal is to entertain the fans, which is why he does crazy shit like nukes and valks I doubt Boxer would do crazy shit like nukes and valks in an OSL Ro8 against the best player in the world. | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On December 26 2009 05:10 Chen wrote: Boxer's said his main goal is to entertain the fans, which is why he does crazy shit like nukes and valks ...yeah, Boxer respects the fans too much to cheese in a highly anticipated series like Flash did. I wish Flash could be more like Boxer. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
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