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[CSL+] The Final Prelude

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[CSL] The Final Prelude
hazelynut, DarthThienAn, and d3_crescentia

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In the West, the UC school system proves that something really must be in the water education over there in the state of California, producing UCSD and UCI as the finalists of the Western Conference. In the East, a Cinderella story unfolds as Princeton manages to take down powerhouses Duke and UofT in succession. But how long will that Cinderella story last, when faced with skill and the preparation that it takes to back it up? Will the clock finally strike midnight when Princeton faces Waterloo?

Welcome to the semi-finals of CSL.





Showdown in the West Part 2: Revenge


UCI and UCSD meet again in the playoffs, after UCI handed UCSD its only defeat. Will UCSD pay the Anteaters back with 3-1 of their own? Will UCI reconfirm its throne not only in Western Division Two, but also the entire Western conference?

Set 1: [image loading] darrenc[uci] < Outsider > [image loading]Xeris_Jaeyun
Reeeborr!!! (RECOMMENDED SET!)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91a-2qELPOY


Darrenc opens 2 gate and Jaeyun responds with plenty of lings and a strong defense, showing off his “unstoppable” (according to Diggity) micro.

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Ah! We're surrounded!


Darrenc trades his initial three zealots for only one drone, but expands to his upper min-only anyway. He techs to a sair/goon army while Jaeyun techs to muta off of three hatcheries. Darrenc, as his first sairs are coming out, expands to his natural, and is attacked by a combination of mutalisks and lings.

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Gotta love them lings.


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Epic army clashing.


Jaeyun’s mutas, however, prove to be not enough to take down any expansions completely, not even denying the front natural.

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Except for Darrenc's hopeful FOURTH. 3 base to 3 base is not good for zerg.


With only a few mutas left, Jaeyun switches to hydras. His third and the hydra den at his third, however, gets taken down by a shuttle of reavers.

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The first hatchery of many. I bet you aren't ready for this many screenshots. Just wait. Zerg players, be prepared to shed tears.


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His attempt at a fourth is denied by reaver harass as well, leaving him with two poorly saturated bases, compared to darrenc’s three bases, although darrenc mines out his min only. Darrenc, in the meantime, however, masses sair and reavers along with a regular ground army, and continues the harassing and defending very well.

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That Nexus is so much luckier than all of Jaeyun's hatcheries.


Jaeyun repeatedly tries to put up his third and fourth but is denied again and again by reaver drops.

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Do you know how fast 4 scarab-damage-upgraded reavers take down a hatchery? Like 5 seconds.


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KPOP ALERT =D


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Damn. Don't mess with that army.


In the end, darrenc’s economy and now-carrier-supplemented army are just too large, and Jaeyun gg’s.

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Carrier has arrived.


+ Show Spoiler [Set 2] +

Set 2: [image loading]Xeris < Destination > [image loading]Novella


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZttedHAjDc


With UCSD’s ace Zerg player unexpectedly dropping the first set, Xeris_Xeris should have been, by all rights, wracked by nerves and the all-too-heavy weight of his team’s expectations. But Xeris_Xeris was a man with a name to live up to – a double burden of team and personal pride. More importantly, Xeris_Xeris was a man with a plan.

On December 13 2009 18:50 Xeris wrote:

So while Terran pushes my 4th, I counter and kill their natural.

Protoss remains: semi-rebuilt army + arbiter + 5 bases (main + nat + bridge + min only + side exp) Terran remains: army + 2.5 base (main + bridge + rebuilding nat)


UC Irvine’s Novella unwittingly played exactly into Xeris’s hand, sending the majority of his troops to threaten the Protoss ridge expansion. Like every other Terran that Xeris met and proceeded to thrash on ICCUP, Novella left his natural expansion wide open to the Protoss army.

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Trade-off: one natural expansion, a few supply depots, factories, and a chunk of Terran army for a probe-less nexus, one pylon, and two cannons.


At this point, Novella is 2 bases to 6, and had no choice but to GG. UCSD ties up the match, 1-1.

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+ Show Spoiler [Set 3] +

Set 3:[image loading]Cheese < Shades of Twilight > [image loading]FiRA



Fira[UCI], rumored to be the favorite of the match, opens with 2 gate range expand. Xeris_Cheese, on the other hand, opens with 2 gate no-dragoon-range-for-the-duration-of-the-game, followed by a robotics and a third gateway.

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Cheese (yellow Protoss) pushes FirA’s (red Protoss) natural in the finite timing window that he has, pounding at the front door with a reaver and a group of dragoons. Unfortunately, Cheese loses his shuttle and the micro war to FirA’s superior control (and range).

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Despite Cheese’s valiant reaver drops, FirA’s natural expansion is fully functional for a good two minutes before Cheese even thinks about expanding. FirA, with a solid economic lead and an advantageous unit composition, easily brings the score to 2-1, UCI.


+ Show Spoiler [Set 4] +

Set 4: [image loading]randomKr < Ride of Valkyries > [image loading]Polar



UCSD is down a set once again at 1-2, and Team Xeris anxiously watches from the sidelines as their favorite cheesy player faces Polar[UCI] on Ride of Valkyries. Polar opens with a 2 fact speed vulture into mech build, but unfortunately for the Anteaters (zot zot zot!), randomKr spots the build early on.

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RandomKr, as a serious connoisseur of cheese, has this to say in response:

On December 18 2009 14:32 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Seriously, I'm the cheese-encyclopedia - I know every trick in the book and it will NOT WORK.


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randomKr cleverly denies a runby through the minerals by putting down an evolution chamber.


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Unlike the depot-Barracks wall, this wall has no chinks.


Meanwhile, Polar lays down mines and transitions into goliath-tank, in anticipation of randomKr’s mutalisks. While randomKr delays the command center and natural expo several times with mutalisks, his hydralisks choose instead to bumble around on the map.

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Polar pushes out after securing his natural expansion and threatens the Zerg natural expansion, but in the meantime, randomKr airdrops a few early Christmas presents into the Terran main.

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Merry Christmas, UC Irvine!


At first, things look grim for both players, but randomKr pulls off a well-positioned flank on the encroaching metal army. But UCSD manages to execute another brilliant trade off: one Terran main in exchange for a couple of hydralisks.

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UCSD ties the match up again, bringing the score to 2-2.


+ Show Spoiler [ACE] +

Set 5: [image loading] darrenc[uci] < God's Garden > [image loading] Xeris_Jaeyun
BM BM BM


Foreword: Ace matches are historically the arena for epic battles, for the best players to represent their team, and show off their skill. This Ace match, in particular, exceeded all expectations in terms of its quality and epic-ness. Interestingly enough, it was a rematch from Set 1: Darrenc[uci] vs. Xeris_Jaeyun. Darren had shown off his incredible skill with an amazingly successful sair reaver on Outsider, while Jaeyun had struggled to stay in the game. Overall, it was a decent game, although Darren had dominated throughout most of it. This Ace match would decide which of the two teams would advance to represent the Western Conference in the CSL finals.

So both players came out and played their best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4E_qzWmxM


Darren opens 1 gate tech into stargate, getting his core before his first zealot. He promptly goes fast scout. He promptly goes fast scout. Scout:

[image loading] Such a beautiful creature being built from that Stargate.


Return of the BM. He couldn’t fast tech to carriers so he got a scout. Anyway, the scout proceeds to wreak havoc on Jaeyun’s economy, killing a whopping 2 drones and 1 overlord. Definitely worth the 275/125.

[image loading] [image loading] [image loading] Game changing harass right here.


Jaeyun plays it cool and gets mutas to return the favor, although in a much larger way:
[image loading] [image loading] Poor probes.


Awesome probe saturation after the mutalisk attack. From there, or actually, from the moment Darren got a scout and didn’t do damage, it was only a matter of time before Darren would gg. But first, he went all-in with his six or so dragoons.

[image loading] The goons won that battle and took down the hatchery. No joke.


And GG. What a great ending to the series.


In their bid for Western supremacy, UCSD barely edged out a 3-2 win over UCI. How will they fare when they have to step out of the west coast and into the real world? And who do they face – the Princeton kids that they sent their C-team against, or the B-rank Waterloo team?




Midnight Hour (EST)


In a bracket that had been filled with powerhouses and giants, none expected these two schools to defeat the likes of Duke, Toronto, McGill, and Georgia Tech. Princeton, a Cinderella story in the making, and Waterloo, a newcomer and relative unknown, would face off at the end of the Eastern Conference to determine who would head to the Grand Finals. Princeton had shown that they could win with smart play, enough preparation, and perhaps the slightest bit of luck... but Waterloo had shown a surprising strength and tenacity to have clawed their way through their chaotic division, and had been consistently underrated during the playoffs as well. Who would emerge victorious? Who would return home in shame?

Game 1 - [pu]zchen vs [uw]..master on Outsider

+ Show Spoiler +

The first set, a PvP on Outsider, featured Princeton's Mike Chen versus Waterloo's Master, both of whom had taken games against players with much higher reputations. Both players opened with nearly identical builds, going 1 gate zealot before range. The mirror play deviated soon afterwards, with Mike Chen opting for an earlier expansion as Master placed his robotics facility and observatory.

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After a few probing incursions into Master's choke, Mike Chen pushes in with his slightly larger dragoon force and somehow emerges victorious, slaughtering probes left and right before forcing his way up Master's ramp. Master GG's soon after.

The end result was a bit surprising - the game looked to be about dead even, with the slightly smaller dragoon force of Master's supposedly mitigated by his short reinforcement route. Unbeknownst to most of the crowd, however...

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The Mike Chen effect at work?


Master had only put two probes on gas for much of the game, leaving him choked for gas to make dragoons AND observers. Talk about a critical mistake.

Princeton 1 : Waterloo 0



Game 2 - [pu]dthoms vs uw)assault on Destination Featured match!

The second set featured David 'dthoms' Thomas versus 'Assault,' in a game which could only be described as intense.

The game started with Assault at 11, and Thomas at 6. While Assault opted for a relatively standard 2-hatch muta build, Thomas went for an aggressive 2-factory push with siege, designed to take out early defenses and stream vultures into the main to deal severe economic damage before his opponent's mutalisks popped.

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Unfortunately for Thomas, his hopes were cut short as he failed to take out the correct sunken colony, and his push was cleaned up by his opponent's mutalisks. Assault's mutalisks did terrible, terrible damage, taking out several goliaths, turrets, AND two factories before they were finally driven off. Assault attempted to follow up with a hydra/muta push up his opponent's ramp...

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Of course, Thomas survived, because Terran mech is more imba than today's PvZ...


The following minutes saw Thomas attempt to reestablish his own economy as he tried to harass his opponent's. Soon, he was able to push out with a ball of large Terran blob of the potentially game-ending kind...

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But unfortunately, his tanks were sieged in a terrible position and were quickly taken out by hydralisks.

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Ouch.


By now, Thomas was starting to feel the pain from having to run on one base for so long - his main was almost completely mined out - while Assault had been on 3 bases for some time, and had just started to take his fourth. Thomas continued his attempts at harassment while attempting to secure a 3rd and a 4th, though Assault did an excellent job in denying Thomas a foothold for a significant amount of time.

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By now Assault had a solid economy and a huge army, and moved in to attack.

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Though Thomas managed to fend off the attack, in the process he had lost his expansion at 4, leaving him with only two mining bases (one of which was almost mined out), compared to Assault's five. Assault was soon able to amass another army while Thomas struggled to rebuild his, and ended it with his second attack.

Game 3 - [pu]Daisy vs uw)jackass on Shades of Twilight

+ Show Spoiler +

In this game, Peter 'Daisy' Liu decided to forgo the standard FE opening and instead opt for a 1-base reaver build, while his opponent responded with 3-hatch mutalisk. Tensions were high as Liu dropped his reaver behind his opponent's mineral lines. Would he be able to succeed where Thomas did not?

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Unfortunately... no.


Peter Liu's drop failed to do significant damage, and was soon forced on the defensive, losing a number of dragoons and probes to a muta/ling combo. In a move of desperation, he threw all of his units at his opponent's natural, but John Lee cleared up his forces easily by drawing back his mutalisks. GG coming from Princeton.

Princeton 1 : 2 Waterloo



Game 4 - [pu]DarthThien vs uw)Gerbil on Ride of Valkyries

+ Show Spoiler +
Game 4 was a critical match for both sides, with victory so close for Waterloo, while Princeton saw their last chance at salvation. Mark 'DarthThienAn' Ha opened with a standard forge fast-expand, while his opponent Adam 'Gerbil' Venis went for a 3-hatch mutalisk build, with his 3rd hatch in his main. With excellent mutalisk/scourge control (and some mismacro on his opponent's part), Venis was able to keep his opponent contained long enough to take a 3rd base and switch to hydras. Forced to make Archons against so many mutalisks, Ha soon found himself a few storms short of victory...

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Victory to Waterloo!



For Princeton, their run for the finals ends here, their midnight hour come at last. Waterloo, however, will be proceeding to the Grand Finals against UCSD - will their Cinderella story come true? Or will it just be another fairy tale?





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To sum it all up, this season has been a strange combination of upsets, UC dominance, and SC rap videos. In the west, UCSD held up to its promise, and in the east…well, no one could’ve guessed the turn of events that the collegiate Starcraft world would end up taking (a very impressed congratulations to Waterloo for emerging from that mess of a bracket).

What can we take from this season into the next? No one is safe. Competition is fierce. Preparation can topple giants. Rap videos are funny, and will make you a popular school even if you don’t make the playoffs.

I sincerely hope everyone enjoyed this season, and will take whatever lessons they will from mistakes and successes both (I know the staff will certainly do so). After all, who knows what will happen next season? Duke will most likely be back with a vengeance (as well as a renewed sense of humility). Princeton’s Mike Chen might be A-. Waterloo might dominate the league for years to come with its newfound B players.

But before we look too far ahead in the future, let’s see what the new year has in store for us:

Stay tuned for…

[image loading] Xeris_CoRa < Heartbreak Ridge > [image loading]uw)assault

[image loading]Xeris_Xeris < God’s Garden > [image loading]uw)Gerbil

[image loading] Xeris_RandomKr < Neo Medusa > [image loading]uw)antimage

[image loading] Xeris_Jaeyun < Ride of Valkyries > [image loading][uw]..master

[image loading] Xeris_Cheese < Outsider > [image loading]uw)jackass

[image loading] Xeris_jeesu < Shades of Twilight > [image loading]uw)monk

Closer: Destination



Best of 7. East versus West. The United States of America versus Canada. When latitude AND longitude come into the equation, you know this Best of 7 is going to be epic.

Tentatively set at January 3, 2010, and casted by none other than the illustrious Day[9]!

- Happy Holidays, from CSL staff. <3
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
December 21 2009 04:57 GMT
#2
gl UCSD!
Ursadon-n-Pals
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States928 Posts
December 21 2009 05:01 GMT
#3
Great recaps. Fun games to watch.
Day[9] ftw.
Nothing worth having comes easy.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
December 21 2009 05:03 GMT
#4
what the fu... no terrans??????
Writerptrk
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
December 21 2009 05:08 GMT
#5
I always knew Waterloo was going to win.
You just can't mess with John Lee.
Sullifam
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 05:13:55
December 21 2009 05:13 GMT
#6
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eOc Jaeyun
Profile Joined February 2009
United States17 Posts
December 21 2009 05:15 GMT
#7
hahaha people watching the finals are going to be damned sick of zvp
i have to say the matchups landed right in favor of UCSD's plan
but we'll see what waterloo has in store for us oo;

excited to see cheese vs. jackass, that'll be the game to watch folks
goodluck to us and waterloo! let it be a good finals :p
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
December 21 2009 05:18 GMT
#8
Well, at least they weren't all PvPs and ZvZs.

GO WATERLOO!
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 21 2009 05:21 GMT
#9
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
December 21 2009 05:31 GMT
#10
lool no terrans
Commentator
monkxly
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada241 Posts
December 21 2009 05:44 GMT
#11
=/ thought my master plan of map order would work out

guess not
get a spire
monkxly
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada241 Posts
December 21 2009 05:50 GMT
#12
JUST JOKING!

Assault => best mu zvp by like 2 ranks
gerbil => best mu zvp by like 2 ranks
antimage => zvp > pvp by like 2 ranks
master => honestly unstoppable pvz machine
jackass => lololol still boring
monk => didn't i rape this guy hard in the exhibition?
get a spire
toopham
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States551 Posts
December 21 2009 06:12 GMT
#13
wow
this is a big PvZ orgy
and one zvz
DIE!!!
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 21 2009 06:13 GMT
#14
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monkxly
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada241 Posts
December 21 2009 06:22 GMT
#15
lol it seems all you can do is bm

so plz, wait for the results
get a spire
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 21 2009 06:31 GMT
#16
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 06:32:18
December 21 2009 06:31 GMT
#17

ACE:
Anyone AKA (2)NE1 > Anyone from UW)WaterLOOOOOOOOL

I see what u did there.
lol gl ucsd will win.
[ReD]NaDa and fnaticMSI.SEn fighting~! ::POlar @ UC Irvine::
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 21 2009 06:59 GMT
#18
why is there so much pvz
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
December 21 2009 07:09 GMT
#19
You put the west on the right and the east on the left, this offends my aesthetic sensibilities : 3
brood war for life, brood war forever
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 21 2009 07:15 GMT
#20
Interestingly enough, UCSD played both UW and PU in exhibition during week 7 lol ^_^. They sent their B team against Waterloo (I think) and their C team against us. I think UW went 3-1? and we went 4-1. lol.
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eOc Jaeyun
Profile Joined February 2009
United States17 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 07:29:23
December 21 2009 07:21 GMT
#21
On December 21 2009 16:15 DarthThienAn wrote:
Interestingly enough, UCSD played both UW and PU in exhibition during week 7 lol ^_^. They sent their B team against Waterloo (I think) and their C team against us. I think UW went 3-1? and we went 4-1. lol.


UCSD > UW (4-1)
Anubis (T) > Antimage (P)
ChoDing (P) > SilentAssassin (Z)
TOP (Z) > Treyn (P)
JeeSu (Z) < monkxly (Z)
rA (P) > mumblee (??)

-----------------------------------

UCSD < Princeton (1-4)
MaGiK (T) < someone
Zergrush (Z) < Zchen
Andrew (Z) < DarthThienAn (P)
Anubis (T) > Magneus
Xeris (Z) < Daisy (P)

Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 07:49:33
December 21 2009 07:41 GMT
#22
Master lost to Freaky PvZ... I beat Freaky PvZ, Master's PvZ clearly is unstoppable.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 21 2009 07:47 GMT
#23
lol wow i actually set randomkr and cheese switched from what I planned.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 21 2009 10:48 GMT
#24
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ForTenPoints
Profile Joined February 2009
United States140 Posts
December 21 2009 11:34 GMT
#25
You know a series is terran deprived when you got a ZvZ on Shades of Twilight.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 21 2009 17:03 GMT
#26
i focking thought they would use this random lmao b- terran on shades, so i put jeesu. fml
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
December 21 2009 21:16 GMT
#27
i'm just wondering whether i should kill just one of my initial drones, or two. i think i might lose if i kill two, but only one will be 2ez, not a fun match...gl xeris >:D
[s]savior[/s] jaedong fighting! // member of LighT eSports
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 21 2009 21:17 GMT
#28
i'll give you $100 if you beat me after you've killed 2 of your starting drones.
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-21 21:30:38
December 21 2009 21:28 GMT
#29
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maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
December 21 2009 21:40 GMT
#30
Fuck yeah Waterloo!
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
December 21 2009 21:53 GMT
#31
Wow can't wait to watch, plus DAY 9. gj csl+

Any good theories why there are no Terrans in the finals? >_>
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
tredmasta
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
China152 Posts
December 21 2009 22:00 GMT
#32
Go UCSD!

Represent West Division 2!
<3 한승연 김태연!!!
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 21 2009 23:54 GMT
#33
On December 22 2009 06:53 mmp wrote:
Wow can't wait to watch, plus DAY 9. gj csl+

Any good theories why there are no Terrans in the finals? >_>


Because the league has weak Terrans in general ^^. At least, I think. The major terrans got knocked out before the semis I think. Princeton's 1 terran didn't come out until last match, and UCI had two terrans in their lineup but they also got knocked out. Duke had two terrans as well I think but they also got knocked out. Just a coincidence, but in general, most teams had more p/z than t in their lineups - I think Tufts was an almost all Terran team, but they got beat out by MIT before playoffs. Aside from that, I can't think of too many big name Terrans in the league in the way that we had Nony, JF, etc. Georgia Tech had the "best zerg" (MasterAsia) and a decent Terran (Assem) but Waterloo knocked em out. UToronto's LegendaryDreams (T) also got knocked out...

So yea, mostly coincidence in terms of which team won. I don't think there are any elaborate explanations as to why Terrans aren't playing this week other than the fact that UCSD/UW advanced all the way to the finals, and they don't have Terrans that are as strong as their other p/z players.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 22 2009 07:54 GMT
#34
On December 22 2009 06:53 mmp wrote:
Wow can't wait to watch, plus DAY 9. gj csl+

Any good theories why there are no Terrans in the finals? >_>


we have a terran but he's pretty weak TvZ so I decided not to put him in.

also, all the schools with good Terran players got eliminated.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 22 2009 07:55 GMT
#35
On December 22 2009 06:16 ShinyGerbil wrote:
i'm just wondering whether i should kill just one of my initial drones, or two. i think i might lose if i kill two, but only one will be 2ez, not a fun match...gl xeris >:D


so how about that wager?
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
December 22 2009 08:10 GMT
#36
trash talk ftw~

Go Waterloo!
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 22 2009 09:08 GMT
#37
On December 22 2009 16:55 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 06:16 ShinyGerbil wrote:
i'm just wondering whether i should kill just one of my initial drones, or two. i think i might lose if i kill two, but only one will be 2ez, not a fun match...gl xeris >:D


so how about that wager?


omg. I realize now how one can 2pool.

^^
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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 22 2009 09:29 GMT
#38
Good thing I like PvZ's

Maybe next season the one race of each per game rule lol
Jaedong :3
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
December 22 2009 09:33 GMT
#39
I seriously hope Waterloo wins.
Rucky
Profile Joined February 2008
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 09:53:10
December 22 2009 09:52 GMT
#40
no T

go ucsd
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 22 2009 10:02 GMT
#41
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ejac
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1195 Posts
December 22 2009 10:42 GMT
#42
It's too late, but next season they should require one of each race.
esq>n
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 12:36:20
December 22 2009 12:31 GMT
#43
On December 22 2009 19:02 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 18:29 ReketSomething wrote:
Good thing I like PvZ's

Maybe next season the one race of each per game rule lol

What if the team only has 4-5 players?

This.

The point of not carrying over the PL race rule was that it implicitly punished smaller teams, which would have a harder time fielding all 3 races. Given that the removal of the merc rule will already create more small teams, it would be counterproductive to enact a policy to hamstring those teams.

I suppose, though, that it could be used to opposite effect. Perhaps teams that exceed a certain roster size are required to field 1 of each race?
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
December 22 2009 19:16 GMT
#44
I have the feeling that if we put in a rule like that, some teams will end up exploiting it by limiting their team size instead of letting their newbie Terrans play.

The one of each race rule should be possible, though. I've been skimming through the team rosters and most have all three races. This could be interesting ^^
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-22 19:28:09
December 22 2009 19:22 GMT
#45
You have to think of the reasoning behind the mandatory usage of all 3 races. It makes sense for proleague, not as much for CSL. In progaming the skill levels are all pretty equal outside of maybe 2-3 awesome players... anybody can beat anybody else on any given day in Korea. Given equal skill levels, having a race rule to promote diversity or whatever makes sense, because the actual gameplay won't be hampered too much.

In CSL though, the skill levels are so varied, that being forced to use a player of a certain race just for the sake of it can give that team a severe disadvantage. Let's say you only have 1 zerg player and he's D- level. So you pretty much have to give away 1 win per clanwar just for the sake of fielding a zerg. That's just nonsensical.

As much as it's nice to see a variety of matchups and races playing in games, it is NOT worth sacrificing game quality. I'd rather see 4 decent/good PvZ games than 1 horrible ZvT.
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ShinyGerbil
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada519 Posts
December 22 2009 21:31 GMT
#46
xeris i might take you up on that wager :D can't say for sure though, cause it'll make you go for some counter build.
also randomkr, it seems like the only way you have of backing up your arbitrary arguments is by writing in all caps :/ i'm all for hype-enticing bm but "YOURE JUST A STUPID CRAZY DOUCHEBAG LITTLE KID DUMBASS FUCKER" is just like ...-_-;
...on the other hand it's going to make your upcoming loss that much funnier :D
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 22 2009 23:15 GMT
#47
Gerbil think about it. $100 to your paypal if you win with 2 starting drones.

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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 22 2009 23:27 GMT
#48
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excal
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada166 Posts
December 23 2009 06:53 GMT
#49
On December 22 2009 06:28 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2009 06:16 ShinyGerbil wrote:
i'm just wondering whether i should kill just one of my initial drones, or two. i think i might lose if i kill two, but only one will be 2ez, not a fun match...gl xeris >:D

HEY LOOK AT ME I'M TRYING TO LOOK CONFIDENT AND AWESOME BUT INSTEAD I COME OFF AS ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT ARE TRYING TOO HARD TO BE CLEVER AND HENCE I LOOK LIKE A STUPID DOUCHEBAG.

God, at least JackaSs can trash talk, rest of your team sucks at it. No, you guys don't look cool, you guys just look like idiots that's trying WAYYYYYYY to hard. God, at least if you are going to hype it up, do it right.

FAKE EDIT: What's wrong with you Canadians? Hey waterloo -> read tnt_titan's comments. And imagine how stupid it is. And now imagine that you guys look like tnt_titan.

I rest my case.


hey look at me i'm getting trolled.
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
December 23 2009 07:09 GMT
#50
cool bm only, please~

i feel like this all needs to be let out in interviews and rap videos at some point before the match.
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Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
December 23 2009 07:32 GMT
#51
woooo~~
cant wait for the results of this match ^^
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 23 2009 07:38 GMT
#52
On December 23 2009 16:09 hazelynut wrote:
cool bm only, please~

i feel like this all needs to be let out in interviews and rap videos at some point before the match.


True, the malicious bm should stop. I've been ignoring it since it's on TL and therefore not my problem, but where's the love? =[ Be good eSportsmen... if that's a word.
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 23 2009 10:34 GMT
#53
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Z.Kw
Profile Joined February 2009
China297 Posts
December 23 2009 13:50 GMT
#54
wow so many zvp

Go UCSD
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 04:05:05
December 24 2009 04:04 GMT
#55
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-24 04:25:18
December 24 2009 04:06 GMT
#56
On December 24 2009 13:04 randomKo_Orean wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

courtesy of xeris_ten in khan vs stars

what; I don't believe it
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 24 2009 04:34 GMT
#57
so easy... I fucking love you Paul
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
December 24 2009 05:02 GMT
#58
LOL that's great, maybe samsung khan will decide to sponsor ucsd now.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 24 2009 05:08 GMT
#59
damn you revealed our plans T_T
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 24 2009 05:29 GMT
#60
On December 24 2009 13:04 randomKo_Orean wrote:
[image loading]
courtesy of xeris_ten in khan vs stars


Was that just photoshopped? lol. I saw the "American fan of Stork" in some thread. =P.
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Freaky[x]
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada995 Posts
December 24 2009 05:59 GMT
#61
duran... you want me to 10-0 you zvp after that comment? v- -
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 24 2009 07:23 GMT
#62
On December 24 2009 14:29 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 13:04 randomKo_Orean wrote:
[image loading]
courtesy of xeris_ten in khan vs stars


Was that just photoshopped? lol. I saw the "American fan of Stork" in some thread. =P.


nope, UCSD was on TV in Korea, sup?
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hipaul
Profile Joined May 2009
United States274 Posts
December 24 2009 10:01 GMT
#63
On December 24 2009 14:29 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 13:04 randomKo_Orean wrote:
[image loading]
courtesy of xeris_ten in khan vs stars


Was that just photoshopped? lol. I saw the "American fan of Stork" in some thread. =P.


Lol wtf. I was there with that sign
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/jon747#p/u/8/PUpjQRW9qTI

And what thread?! I wanna know haha
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 24 2009 10:27 GMT
#64
On December 24 2009 19:01 hipaul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2009 14:29 DarthThienAn wrote:
On December 24 2009 13:04 randomKo_Orean wrote:
[image loading]
courtesy of xeris_ten in khan vs stars


Was that just photoshopped? lol. I saw the "American fan of Stork" in some thread. =P.


Lol wtf. I was there with that sign
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/jon747#p/u/8/PUpjQRW9qTI

And what thread?! I wanna know haha


I think it was Khan/Stars LR thread. toward the end more I think. And LOL. I didn't realize you switched them, thought there was only one. hahaha nice nice.
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duckett
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States589 Posts
December 24 2009 12:17 GMT
#65
why so bm ucsd?

water water water
loo loo loo
funky squaredance funky squaredance funky squaredance
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 24 2009 19:19 GMT
#66
On December 24 2009 14:59 Freaky[x] wrote:
duran... you want me to 10-0 you zvp after that comment? v- -


i believe you just beat me 4-1 :D!
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 26 2009 18:58 GMT
#67
how is this on the 2nd page -__
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 26 2009 20:03 GMT
#68
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monkxly
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada241 Posts
December 30 2009 01:42 GMT
#69
have a holly jolly christmas

it's the best time of the year!
get a spire
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
December 31 2009 05:10 GMT
#70
pretty sad this is down on 2nd page !
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 31 2009 05:28 GMT
#71
The finals are on sunday. It was a long break between the semis and now ^^, that's why.
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
December 31 2009 07:31 GMT
#72
On December 31 2009 14:10 Xeris wrote:
pretty sad this is down on 2nd page !

it's because you are bm user
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 31 2009 19:42 GMT
#73
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
December 31 2009 22:28 GMT
#74
On January 01 2010 04:42 randomKo_Orean wrote:
okay, time to hype it up again?


hey man, it's your final. hehe.
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-02 08:57:53
January 02 2010 08:57 GMT
#75
woot it's on the TL calendar. For those of you who don't know, the match is scheduled for:

Sunday, Jan 3rd, 8pm EST / 5pm PST.

Day[9] cast ^_^
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 02 2010 09:26 GMT
#76
i seriously can't wait - i wish it was now.
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hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
January 02 2010 09:30 GMT
#77
news flash: xeris has been training for this match by eating gerbils
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 02 2010 09:42 GMT
#78
On January 02 2010 18:30 hazelynut wrote:
news flash: xeris has been training for this match by eating gerbils


i thought he was training them and studying their performance of difference BOs...
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 02 2010 16:34 GMT
#79
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
January 02 2010 16:36 GMT
#80
GO WATERLOOOOOOOOOOOOO <3
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 02 2010 16:49 GMT
#81
On January 02 2010 18:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2010 18:30 hazelynut wrote:
news flash: xeris has been training for this match by eating gerbils


i thought he was training them and studying their performance of difference BOs...


nah man, eating gerbils is much easier
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DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
January 02 2010 16:57 GMT
#82
On January 03 2010 01:34 randomKo_Orean wrote:
someone make [CSL GF] Thread now gogo


*tags Mona*

you're it.

<----will be in car for next 5+ hours.
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