EPTI guess you gotta watch everything they sponsor directly from their site now.
Gretech served Jon747 with a copyright notice
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razorsuKe
Canada2000 Posts
I guess you gotta watch everything they sponsor directly from their site now. | ||
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
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razorsuKe
Canada2000 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:44 Carefree Me wrote: I'm just scared that if GOM is doing this, will MBC or OGN follow up next? doubt it, they never express any interest in what the foreign community does anyways. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:44 Carefree Me wrote: I'm just scared that if GOM is doing this, will MBC or OGN follow up next? sure, if they want to entirely alienate foreign viewers | ||
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:47 ViruX wrote: we can simply watch the vods from the site so its no biggie Read the notice - it says it's an MSL FPVOD, not a GOM Classic or Invitational VOD, so these are not readily available. | ||
GTR
51565 Posts
because gom have nothing to do with the msl's they sponsored at all, they just had their name as the sponsor. if it were the english casts of the GOM games, i'd understand, but MBC's stuff? nope. | ||
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Carefree
United States1571 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:46 SoMuchBetter wrote: sure, if they want to entirely alienate foreign viewers If anything, GOM cares about its foreign viewers. MBC and OGN don't seem like they would care whether they alienated foreign viewers or not... | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:47 p4NDemik wrote: Wait, the game in question in the video isn't even a Classic/GSI game - it's an old MSL FPVOD. I would think that MBC owns to copyright to those games, not GOM, right? Read the notice - it says it's an MSL FPVOD, not a GOM Classic or Invitational VOD, so these are not readily available. notice how the FPVOD is from the GOMTV MSL... makes me believe it's just referring to all the GOMTV MSLs | ||
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mOnion
United States5657 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:50 blabber wrote: notice how the FPVOD is from the GOMTV MSL... makes me believe it's just referring to all the GOMTV MSLs But just because they sponsored it doesn't mean they have any rights to those VODs. MBC does, but they don't. This makes zero sense as GTR said. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Anyways, if this is the first step to the death of a channel, a lot of videos will disappear. Baezzi has uploaded a ton of stuff. Edit: just an "if" situation - maybe nothing significant will happen. | ||
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Lumi
United States1616 Posts
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Radivel-X17
Canada144 Posts
What protects Nevake? | ||
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RedArmor
United States13 Posts
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
On October 24 2009 02:16 RedArmor wrote: Don't get your panties in a bunch, it was just for that one video. So he can't upload GOM games anymore, big deal. Is it so hard to read before you post? | ||
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nadafanboy42
Netherlands209 Posts
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anch
United States5457 Posts
quote from Jon747 Today I have received copyright warning once from youtube since CRETECH (GomTV) reported youtube. I took off all of them related to CRETECH (GomTV), FPVOD, MST, and MSL ect. | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
On October 24 2009 02:44 nadafanboy42 wrote: Did anyone go ahead with some of the plans to backup the account last time there was a scare? (When Beazzi quit tl iirc). It would be so sad if the account gets deleted and we lose access to all the old vods up there or something. Yes, there is a TL run youtube channel. | ||
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QibingZero
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:46 razorsuKe wrote: doubt it, they never express any interest in what the foreign community does anyways. They express interest all the time, and its always in the vein of "don't let the foreigners have any access to anything we do". | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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theqat
United States2856 Posts
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RedTerror
New Zealand742 Posts
On October 24 2009 04:22 okum wrote: Are Starcraft VODs archived anywhere other than YouTube? For all we know, YouTube could go bankrupt tomorrow, or they might decide to kill all Starcraft VODs for some arbitrary reason. Already some VODs on YouTube have had their sound disabled due to the intro music. The royalties of the intro music would have been paid by the gaming channels | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
On October 24 2009 04:32 ViruX wrote: The royalties of the intro music would have been paid by the gaming channels Yeah, but greedy record companies don't give a shit. You're guilty of copyright infringement until you prove yourself innocent. | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
Youtube gets thousands of these notices a day. They can be liable for damages for not removing infringing videos, but they have no liability under the law for removing videos that are not actually infringing. Therefore, they just take down anything that anybody complains about, whether it's a valid claim or not. You can file a counter notice, but considering the videos do actually infringe MBC's copyrights, that's not such a great idea.  | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
I'm just flattered by the whole thing and also i feel like BaeZZi is under the wrong impression. What does gom have to do with him uploading new games from MBC or OGN? (actually i'm just pissed because i missed the sAviOr games this morning and will have to wait for zatic to upload them tomorrow but i thought i'd share this anyways -.-) | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
I used to DL a lot of my vods from Jon747 because most nevake vods dont have the intros and most of Jon747's vods do this is really sad  | ||
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himurakenshin
Canada1845 Posts
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Sharp-eYe
Canada642 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:48 Carefree Me wrote: If anything, GOM cares about its foreign viewers. MBC and OGN don't seem like they would care whether they alienated foreign viewers or not... Atually I saw a commercial once on OSL, where they were happy about all the foreigners in their audience. | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
I also am quite convinced he misunderstood them, there is no reason for him to stop uploading KeSPA vods, i'm also going to miss his naming formats (winner of game 1 vs spoiled name anyone?) | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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bigsack
Korea (North)220 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
I wonder if nevake can escape this sort of thing... | ||
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
On October 30 2009 11:50 motbob wrote: If he can't, dark times ahead. Other people can always upload more videos, but the amount of Starcraft history that would be lost is just staggering.TT I wonder if nevake can escape this sort of thing... | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
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GTR
51565 Posts
They don't even have the rights to show the games on their GOMTV VOD service in Korea. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
to anyone's knowledge, has this ever happened before? also this would not be the first time jon747 overreacted to something that was not a big deal. A lot of this feels fishy to me | ||
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domane
Canada1606 Posts
If this means no more videos from MSL + OSL + Proleague, then yeah I think this is a huge deal. | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I hope. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On October 31 2009 17:33 p4NDemik wrote: nevake doesn't have any GomTV MSL vods/Gom Classic vods at all I think so it's clear from scrutiny by Gretech. I hope. He has ShowMeTheMSL Fpvods, i think. | ||
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Drunk Hobo Guy
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Jon747 (1 week ago) Guys! Remember! This channel is going to be deleted if It happens a big war for SC copyright between Blizzard and KeSPA. Jon747 Jon747 (1 week ago) gejedd// GomTV MSL Season 1, 2, 3, 4 and FPVOD related to GomTV MSL ect. gejedd gejedd (1 week ago) could someone please explain what videos you cant post anymore, just gom?? or all videos? | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
wow, that's a huge loss | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
According to this, he can still upload all regarded ProLeague, MSL and OSL, meanwhile it has nothing related to GOM TV, like sponsorships, ect.. BTW I must say I got GOM TV vods in my youtube channel, not many, but havent received a warning yet | ||
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
1) If someone files a copyright complaint, do they do this to youtube or to the owner (Baezzi) of the channel? 2) If it's youtube, does TY only pass along the message without actually taking down the previously uploaded vods themselves? It seems Baezzi is still in control of which videos he wants to take down. 3) Can someone fake copyright complaints since it makes so little sense with the gretech/gom/msl stuff | ||
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On October 30 2009 13:02 Zozma wrote: If he can't, dark times ahead. Other people can always upload more videos, but the amount of Starcraft history that would be lost is just staggering. were do you think the torrents com form *cough. i dont thinka anything woud be lost. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
If Teamliquid improves VODs section then nobody has to visit youtube to see those ugly VOD names typed there. | ||
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abcb
United States136 Posts
On October 31 2009 20:46 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I'm really bad at this but um.. some questions maybe some here are more experienced at it. 1) If someone files a copyright complaint, do they do this to youtube or to the owner (Baezzi) of the channel? 2) If it's youtube, does TY only pass along the message without actually taking down the previously uploaded vods themselves? It seems Baezzi is still in control of which videos he wants to take down. 3) Can someone fake copyright complaints since it makes so little sense with the gretech/gom/msl stuff From what i remember, this is how it should work. 1) When someone files a copyright complaint, they can do this to youtube and the owner. If they serve it to the owner, it's likely a demand letter of some kind asking the owner to take it down without legal trouble. If they serve it the ISP, then it's an actual DMCA violation form they filled out and serve it to youtube. 2) When YT is served with DMCA violation notice, Youtube has to take down the alleged videos. However they will pass on the message to the owner, and owner has i think 20 days to dispute about whether the content violates copyright. 3) I am pretty sure it's hard to fake it, google probably has team of lawyers checking out dmca violations and make sure they are legit before taking down the video. | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
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RaGe
Belgium9950 Posts
On October 24 2009 02:12 Radivel-X17 wrote: Nevake next? What protects Nevake? lol dude are you serious? the uploader that YOU yourself stole from TL is having copyright issues, and the first thing you reply is "what about TLs account"? | ||
zatic
Zurich15364 Posts
Nevake account seems just fine atm. Oh but if they wanted to, the Korean copyright holders could take down all those Vods in an instant. DMCA notice and that's it. And no, no one (I know of) saves all the torrent Vods, so if they are off youtube they are pretty much gone for us. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 01 2009 18:02 zatic wrote: So what exactly happened here? Baezzi can't upload the Korean GOM Vods anymore? Big deal. Nevake account seems just fine atm. Oh but if they wanted to, the Korean copyright holders could take down all those Vods in an instant. DMCA notice and that's it. And no, no one (I know of) saves all the torrent Vods, so if they are off youtube they are pretty much gone for us. Well, let's get someone with and external HD to get all the HQ flv files off of Youtube just in case. Right? | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On October 31 2009 22:08 abcb wrote: 3) I am pretty sure it's hard to fake it, google probably has team of lawyers checking out dmca violations and make sure they are legit before taking down the video. They don't. Youtube takes down any video they receive a complaint about, and it's up to the user to file a counter notification if there's a mistake. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
Baezzi's back, back again | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On November 01 2009 20:20 motbob wrote: Guess who's back, back again Baezzi's back, back again What'd you mean with that? He was allowed to take the vods back? | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On November 01 2009 21:41 Iplaythings wrote: What'd you mean with that? He was allowed to take the vods back? He started uploading again, but no. GOM MSL games are still gone. | ||
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
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HonestTea
5007 Posts
On October 23 2009 15:53 p4NDemik wrote: But just because they sponsored it doesn't mean they have any rights to those VODs. MBC does, but they don't. This makes zero sense as GTR said. This makes sense because part of the sponsorship deal was that Gom would get ipTV broadcast rights for the MSL. That MSL was actually live broadcasted on GOMTV, and VODs were also accessible later on GomPlayer. So yeah, it's within their legal right. | ||
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Godimus
United States126 Posts
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
Like, Jaedong could be known as Candlejack. That would lead to- | ||
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theobsessed1
United States576 Posts
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Sorrow
United States55 Posts
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Stripe
United States67 Posts
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wswordsmen
United States987 Posts
On November 02 2009 03:46 Stripe wrote: Calm down guys. I'm sure the removed VODs can mostly still be seen on the GomTV website. The $64000 question is can non-koreans get the vods and how hard would it be to get a specific vod. | ||
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SonuvBob
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