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HeroOfTheDaY-
Profile Joined August 2003
53 Posts
September 29 2009 15:23 GMT
#81
9811,47 PLN

nice ;]
Sorry, my english sux:(
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 16:00:36
September 29 2009 15:59 GMT
#82
On September 29 2009 23:44 JinKazama23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2009 23:23 Randos wrote:
Guys youre out of your fucking minds. The only reason the OFFICIAL INCOME is this high (around 3k's) is because it's the AVERAGE, including politics and other people of interest that earn 15 times more than 90% of the community. But in the reality, the society is really poor, Im talking about 1500 PLN max for a typicall, person.
Growth? There's no serious growth, try comparing current prices with the old ones, youll get to the point. And yes, western europe is like a fucking El Dorado to us.

Spending 4000zł to get the 50% of the price is quite a big deal.


90% of the community? It's very huge exaggeration. I know people who are 19-21 and are already making more than average income on internships. Things are changing. I assume you only think like this from your own perspective and thus the perspective of your own regions. The whole Poland is not like that.

And about the Growth, that you mentioned barely exists... They is a significant growth. Poland is one of the few European countries that survived the recession without negative GDP measure. In fact, one can argue that because of that fact, Poland has never been in recession at all.

2006 GDP
Q1 5.4%
Q2 6.3%
Q3 6.6%

2007 GDP
Q1 7.4%
Q2 6.5%
Q3 6.5%

2008 GDP

Q1 6.1%
Q2 6.0%
Q3 5.0%


Compare this to United States:
2008 GDP
Q1 -1.2%
Q2 3%
Q3 -2.8%
Q4 -5.5%

Compare this to Germany
2008 GDP ~2.2%

I admit that standards of living of western countries are better undoubtedly but this El Dorado you're talking about only exists in your head.

Have you actually been to 90% of Poland?

BTW if these two players are actually asking for x amount of dollars they should have at least a 50% match.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
vA.sYn[D]rOm
Profile Joined March 2005
Poland1 Post
September 29 2009 16:08 GMT
#83
QuickSilver my friend they've never asked for money it was our (polish community) iniciative started by Raven.
Embrace in Dark Progressive
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 16:12:13
September 29 2009 16:09 GMT
#84
On September 30 2009 00:59 Amber[LighT] wrote:

Have you actually been to 90% of Poland?

BTW if these two players are actually asking for x amount of dollars they should have at least a 50% match.


And you have been... and seen that the 90% of Poland are beggars...
Facts are all against that my dear fellow American^^


These two players are not asking for anything. Read the posts carefully before posting anything.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Louder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 16:32:17
September 29 2009 16:31 GMT
#85
I for one do not want Draco or Yayba at the grand finals heh

Doesn't Draco make a bunch of money on poker or something? Why does he need charity?
ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
September 29 2009 16:38 GMT
#86
On September 30 2009 01:31 Louder wrote:
I for one do not want Draco or Yayba at the grand finals heh

Doesn't Draco make a bunch of money on poker or something? Why does he need charity?


i dont think Draco got infected with poker virus (MistrZZZ plays poker)
JinKazama23
Profile Joined August 2005
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 17:34:03
September 29 2009 17:22 GMT
#87
On September 30 2009 00:59 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2009 23:44 JinKazama23 wrote:
On September 29 2009 23:23 Randos wrote:
Guys youre out of your fucking minds. The only reason the OFFICIAL INCOME is this high (around 3k's) is because it's the AVERAGE, including politics and other people of interest that earn 15 times more than 90% of the community. But in the reality, the society is really poor, Im talking about 1500 PLN max for a typicall, person.
Growth? There's no serious growth, try comparing current prices with the old ones, youll get to the point. And yes, western europe is like a fucking El Dorado to us.

Spending 4000zł to get the 50% of the price is quite a big deal.


90% of the community? It's very huge exaggeration. I know people who are 19-21 and are already making more than average income on internships. Things are changing. I assume you only think like this from your own perspective and thus the perspective of your own regions. The whole Poland is not like that.

And about the Growth, that you mentioned barely exists... They is a significant growth. Poland is one of the few European countries that survived the recession without negative GDP measure. In fact, one can argue that because of that fact, Poland has never been in recession at all.

2006 GDP
Q1 5.4%
Q2 6.3%
Q3 6.6%

2007 GDP
Q1 7.4%
Q2 6.5%
Q3 6.5%

2008 GDP

Q1 6.1%
Q2 6.0%
Q3 5.0%


Compare this to United States:
2008 GDP
Q1 -1.2%
Q2 3%
Q3 -2.8%
Q4 -5.5%

Compare this to Germany
2008 GDP ~2.2%

I admit that standards of living of western countries are better undoubtedly but this El Dorado you're talking about only exists in your head.

Have you actually been to 90% of Poland?

BTW if these two players are actually asking for x amount of dollars they should have at least a 50% match.



Did you even read what I wrote? I haven't been to 90% of Poland, but I've been to 40-50% of it and just from that I can deduct that a lot more than 10% of people make more average income.

Both, Draco and Yayba are students, and from what I publicly known are unemployed. (or rather don't have a steady source of income just like many students from all over the world).

They sure want to go, who wouldn't? They both play ICC (ASL tournament) so they are active. These players never asked for a penny. This money collecting program was constructed independently by the whole Polish scene. Moreover, Draco made a statement that he won't accept any free money from people, so because of that it was given a sponsoring character.

1. This action was organized so that we can give Starcraft a kickass farewell
2. It was started to show that Polish scene is well-organized and cares about Starcraft
3. It was supposed to show that even though Poles are not Rockefellers they still can achieve this financial goal, and while almost everyone thought it's impossible, now you can see that one addition player will go for sure.
4. This was supposed to be a thankyou to Polish players for their effort put into starcraft scene, especially Draco.
5. Polish scene thought that maybe other people would want to participate in this, since WCG is a world-wide event.

In summary, it was more about some principles and values, than about anything else.

You have any more questions or doubts?
Come along and take a hit from the bong.
oovv
Profile Joined March 2008
366 Posts
September 29 2009 18:19 GMT
#88
JinKazama23

i totaly agree!
Oops.. i did it again
Ro[]t
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden147 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 20:28:45
September 29 2009 18:34 GMT
#89
If I get paypal to work I would gladly donate some money to make someones dream become true...
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
September 29 2009 19:04 GMT
#90
so if i send them a thousand dollars i can make draco walk around in a shirt that says IdrA[Media]?
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-29 19:07:00
September 29 2009 19:06 GMT
#91
On September 30 2009 04:04 IdrA wrote:
so if i send them a thousand dollars i can make draco walk around in a shirt that says IdrA[Media]?

correct
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 29 2009 19:09 GMT
#92
On September 30 2009 04:04 IdrA wrote:
so if i send them a thousand dollars i can make draco walk around in a shirt that says IdrA[Media]?


thats one way to spend your prize money lol
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
September 29 2009 19:11 GMT
#93
On September 30 2009 04:04 IdrA wrote:
so if i send them a thousand dollars i can make draco walk around in a shirt that says IdrA[Media]?


what a dangerous statement..

xD
hatred outlives the hateful
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
September 29 2009 19:16 GMT
#94
a dangerous statement toi have.

that would be great but idra would have to make the shirts.
I am not good with quotes
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
September 29 2009 19:25 GMT
#95
I think that this is a great initiative that really shows the greatness of the BW community. I fear it wont be the same once SCII hit the shelves - it will turn into something like the CS-community packed with 14 year old nerds.
Oh well... Wish i could contribute some money - but actually got NONE ... But you got my full (moral) support!
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
September 29 2009 19:30 GMT
#96
I'm throwing out my good luck again since this thread seemed to spend some time being about the GNP of Poland and not about Starcraft.


Good Luck!
kimchiterran
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland81 Posts
September 29 2009 19:49 GMT
#97
UPDATE: 10 329,15 PLN gathered after evening session. That's ~ 3 600 USD and we keep raising.

Maciej / Raven
kimchi makes perfect~
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 29 2009 19:55 GMT
#98
Quite awesome
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
_luke_
Profile Joined September 2009
2 Posts
September 29 2009 20:06 GMT
#99

UPDATE: 10 329,15 PLN gathered after evening session. That's ~ 3 600 USD and we keep raising.


Need more minerals!!! ;-)
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
September 29 2009 20:22 GMT
#100
If everyone that hasnt donated donates something like 5$ it will be a quick process
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