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Sixer
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States278 Posts
September 01 2009 15:29 GMT
#61
Lol perfectman up 55 spots.
YO MAN~YOGA PARTY BABY
Sharp-eYe
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada642 Posts
September 01 2009 15:35 GMT
#62
On September 01 2009 21:29 Kyo Yuy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2009 18:09 lazz wrote:
On September 01 2009 17:29 Toolshed wrote:
On September 01 2009 17:19 Highways wrote:
It would be nice to see the races on the table to quickly see the race distribution. :S



Z = 11
T = 12
P = 7

meh :/



but wait i thot protoss waz da ezy race guyz wtffff

It is the easy race. It's just that people who are really bad at the game pick the easy race and expect to win by playing 3 hours a day, but then people who pick the hard races like Zerg and Terran practice 24/7 and they beat people who play only 3 hours a day.

As we all know, Bisu and Stork suck at Starcraft, and they play only 3 hours a day and just make dark templar every game. But good players in the other races are more versatile than that so they know how to beat Dark Templar so that's why Protoss is failing so hard.

Protoss is noob race and only noobs play it, Bisu and Stork don't deserve to be progamers because they pick the easy race and Starcraft should really only have two races.

[/sarcasm]

I think once fall season starts up though Protoss will pick back up. Legend of the Fall and all that good stuff.


im so glad your wrote /sarcasm D:
Are you truly so blinded by your vaunted religion, that you can't see the fall ahead of you? - Zeratul III AKA WikidSik ingame (anygame)
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 01 2009 15:35 GMT
#63
HOLY £"$!

i'm surprised there's no "Jaedong is Bonjwa" talk at all after looking at that points lol...

and LOL at Backho going higher than Best.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 15:43:09
September 01 2009 15:42 GMT
#64
He doesn't need to be Bonjwa.


To say he is Bonjwa is to say he is on the same level as Boxer / Nada / Oov / Savior.


He is beyond their level.
We decide our own destiny
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
September 01 2009 15:47 GMT
#65
Jaedong is what he is.

Funny how people say Bisu and Flash are on the same level as him, yet he still keeps taking home the OSL trophies. And surpasses them by +1000 points on kespa.
May the BeSt man win.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
September 01 2009 15:54 GMT
#66
Suprised how big a jump Jaedong took. I suppose that ultimately he did win the OSL and got to the semis of the MSL.

In regards to Flash/Fantasy, I wonder if Flash would be ahead if GOM TV counted in KeSPA? My guess is yes but dunno.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
September 01 2009 15:56 GMT
#67
July all the way down to 45
Free Palestine
saikeraku
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada2933 Posts
September 01 2009 15:59 GMT
#68
Wooo Jaedong! Haha, and also BackHo! 7 protosses now ;O.
Lol, gogo Perfectman, up 55!

Ah fantasy's over flash now TT.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 01 2009 16:00 GMT
#69
On September 02 2009 00:47 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong is what he is.

Funny how people say Bisu and Flash are on the same level as him, yet he still keeps taking home the OSL trophies. And surpasses them by +1000 points on kespa.


and has as many starleague titles as they do combined
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 16:02:56
September 01 2009 16:02 GMT
#70
wow Jaedong ! I guess his ranking will remain that high ,even if he starts playing really bad, for the next like 3-4 months if I understand the system correctly
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Mongery
Profile Joined May 2009
892 Posts
September 01 2009 16:03 GMT
#71
On September 01 2009 18:13 Shauni wrote:
3 estro players in top 30? this cannot be!


ya im shocked too >_<
http://www.twitch.tv/mongery_tv https://www.esportsearnings.com/players/27699-mongery-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 16:18:43
September 01 2009 16:13 GMT
#72
On September 02 2009 00:47 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong is what he is.

Funny how people say Bisu and Flash are on the same level as him, yet he still keeps taking home the OSL trophies. And surpasses them by +1000 points on kespa.

That has mostly to do with the way Kespa rank is calculated. In terms of their play, they ARE fairly close, or at least close enough that +1000 points does not portray how close their head to head play would actually be,

On September 02 2009 01:00 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2009 00:47 Djabanete wrote:
Jaedong is what he is.

Funny how people say Bisu and Flash are on the same level as him, yet he still keeps taking home the OSL trophies. And surpasses them by +1000 points on kespa.


and has as many starleague titles as they do combined

That's the reason. Kespa rank is weighted more heavily on starleague titles, and more specifically RECENT starleague titles. It overvalues starleague play (IMO a player who does well in a starleague but poorly in proleague shouldn't do THAT much better than someone who does well in proleague but poorly in starleagues--particularly given the increasing importance of proleague), and it makes the stats have a long lag time (players that have starleague wins take forever to drop off when they're slumping). The ranking system comes from a time when people cared a lot less about proleague, and unless I missed a recent update in how they do it, proleague gets undervalued.

Basically, this tells us what we've known about Jaedong all along. In terms of single games and overall statistics, Jaedong/Bisu/Flash are fairly close (Jaedong might even be behind looking at the statistics). What makes Jaedong better than Flash and Bisu is that he wins critical games, particularly Bo5s.
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
September 01 2009 16:15 GMT
#73
Thanks for publishing this man!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 01 2009 16:24 GMT
#74
[image loading]
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ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
September 01 2009 16:29 GMT
#75
On September 02 2009 01:24 JWD wrote:
[image loading]


lol Tossgirl.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-01 16:47:48
September 01 2009 16:44 GMT
#76
BACKHO HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

who's your 6th dragon now Toss!?!?! :p

EDIT: dog pic is amazing, lol
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
FranzF1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile1710 Posts
September 01 2009 16:53 GMT
#77
BackHo <3
This is going to be your season... go for the OSL!
I believe in Backho for OSL champ.
Jaedong owning the Kespa rank
Member #99999^99 of the fanclub of Grape, Reality and TurN
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
September 01 2009 17:07 GMT
#78
Jaedong = best player in the world, currently the highest skilled starcraft:broodwar player to ever walk the earth, and he might remain that forever.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
September 01 2009 17:25 GMT
#79
Leta gets a free MSL birth ^^
brood war for life, brood war forever
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 01 2009 17:35 GMT
#80
On September 02 2009 01:13 TheYango wrote:
IMO a player who does well in a starleague but poorly in proleague shouldn't do THAT much better than someone who does well in proleague but poorly in starleagues--particularly given the increasing importance of proleague


I don't know what rank you're looking at, but I see Leta above 3 of the finalists this season.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
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