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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 17 2009 16:08 GMT
#41
Updated for week 3! Refresh etc.

Nothing too interesting, Oz gets their 2 match lead back and STX is still undefeated, Places 1-4 all have the same R5 record. MagicNs probably aren't making the cut, but it remains a remote possibility if the stars align just right.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 17 2009 16:20 GMT
#42
On June 18 2009 01:08 heyoka wrote:
Updated for week 3! Refresh etc.

Nothing too interesting, Oz gets their 2 match lead back and STX is still undefeated, Places 1-4 all have the same R5 record. MagicNs probably aren't making the cut, but it remains a remote possibility if the stars align just right.


Thank you for the great work!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
June 17 2009 16:31 GMT
#43
On June 18 2009 01:08 heyoka wrote:
Updated for week 3! Refresh etc.

Nothing too interesting, Oz gets their 2 match lead back and STX is still undefeated, Places 1-4 all have the same R5 record. MagicNs probably aren't making the cut, but it remains a remote possibility if the stars align just right.

Yep, thanks for the update, keep it up! I'd really like to see KT making it though
Jaedong! <> Team MVP <> Mouz.
Jonvvv
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Norway1530 Posts
June 17 2009 19:55 GMT
#44
Aww, can't wait for the playoffs!!
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barbahaba0
Profile Joined January 2009
Israel226 Posts
June 17 2009 20:30 GMT
#45
how many games are left cause i cant see ktf reaching it
too bad violet hasnt popped sooner
the spread is 3 points meaning ktf needs to win every game and either stx or smasung need to loose all of theirs right?
game over dude .... game over!!!!
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-18 01:47:44
June 18 2009 01:41 GMT
#46
12 teams means 11 games per round for each team. thus far they all have played 5, so 6 games remaining per team.

also, KT still have to play 4 out of 6 teams ranked above them (oz, t1, khan & stx).
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SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 21 2009 17:03 GMT
#47
I hope Shades of Twilight won't be played in the Playoffs...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
June 23 2009 12:12 GMT
#48
1. Oz 32-18 (5 matches left)
2. SKT 32-19 (4 matches left)
3. Hite 30-20 (5 matches left)
4. CJ 30-21 (4 matches left)
5. STX 29-21 (5 matches left, including vs WeMade tomorrow)
6. KHAN 28-22 (5 matches left)
7. KT 26-24 (5 matches left, including vs eSTRO tomorrow)
8. WStars 25-25 (5 matches left)
9. MBC 23-28 (4 matches left)
10. WeMade 20-30 (5 matches left, including vs STX tomorrow)
11. eSTRO 18-32 (5 matches left, including vs KT tomorrow)
12. ACE 9-42 (4 matches left)

Much of the final ranking is not decided yet, except that MBC, WeMade, eSTRO and ACE 9-42 have no way of reaching the playoffs.

Woongjin still have a mathematical chance to reach the playoffs, but it's incredibly unlikely. Basically they can reach playoffs if they go 4-1, KHAN goes 0-5 and KT at most 2-3 OR if they go 5-0, KHAN at most 1-4 and KT at most 3-2 KT. KHAN and KT also still have to play each other, so one of them has a guaranteed win anyway.
This should account for almost all of the theoretical possibilities. Woongjin has a worse game differential than KHAN and KT, so with equal win/loss they'd get ranked lower due to game differential. Maybe there's some theoretical chance of Woongjin reaching higher game differential, while having equal win/loss, but for that to happen there would be the additional requirements of Woongjin winning like all their matches 3-0 and KHAN/KT losing like all of theirs 0-3. I can't be bothered to check this in detail though.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
June 23 2009 12:16 GMT
#49
so is it the top 4 /5/6 teams make it to the playoffs?

its all so close pretty much just a +/- 2 points
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 23 2009 12:31 GMT
#50
Top6 teams make it to the playoffs. Spots 1-7 can still change a lot.

I expect:
1) Oz
2) SKT
3) CJ
4) STX
5) Hite
6) KT
7) Khan
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 12:42:58
June 23 2009 12:39 GMT
#51
On June 23 2009 21:16 StorZerg wrote:
so is it the top 4 /5/6 teams make it to the playoffs?

its all so close pretty much just a +/- 2 points



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From here. (Winners League was technically also a round robin and also counts towards the final ranking, so it might be better to call it 5 round robin rounds).

To avoid confusion: "Winner vs First Place" means winner of playoffs vs first ranked.

Basically being ranked first means you have to win one more match to be champion. Being ranked second you have to win 2 and being ranked 3-6 you have to win 4.
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 13:21:35
June 23 2009 13:21 GMT
#52
why is oz even on top of this? oz consists only of jaedong and some random players who acutally suck most of the time o_O

okay the way i said it is maybe a bit harsh... but basically it's the truth.
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JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
June 23 2009 13:41 GMT
#53
On June 23 2009 22:21 jhNz wrote:
why is oz even on top of this? oz consists only of jaedong and some random players who acutally suck most of the time o_O

okay the way i said it is maybe a bit harsh... but basically it's the truth.


Because of Jaedong.
perfecting the art of five pool forever
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
June 23 2009 13:49 GMT
#54
On June 18 2009 10:41 Carnac wrote:
12 teams means 11 games per round for each team. thus far they all have played 5, so 6 games remaining per team.

also, KT still have to play 4 out of 6 teams ranked above them (oz, t1, khan & stx).

imo KT will have no problems with OZ and STX. the most crucial game for both khan and KT is when they face each other. I think the winner of that match will take the playoff spot.
Woo Jung Ho
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
June 23 2009 14:01 GMT
#55
On June 23 2009 22:49 iLoveKT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2009 10:41 Carnac wrote:
12 teams means 11 games per round for each team. thus far they all have played 5, so 6 games remaining per team.

also, KT still have to play 4 out of 6 teams ranked above them (oz, t1, khan & stx).

imo KT will have no problems with OZ and STX. the most crucial game for both khan and KT is when they face each other. I think the winner of that match will take the playoff spot.


KT still has to play SKT too...
And STX is no problem, because both KT and Khan will lose to them.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 14:17:33
June 23 2009 14:15 GMT
#56
The two dramas are SKT/Oz for #1's direct seed to finals, and in the top 6 whether Khan will play good enough to stave off a resurgent KT. Any teams below KT, even if they have a theoretical chance are extremely unlikely to make the playoffs.
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 24 2009 21:22 GMT
#57
Charts updated, F5 etc

WE HAVE A NEW NUMBER ONE, WHAT UP

Thats actually only half true, Oz has more matches to go than SKT so they're probably about a half game ahead. STX is 7-0 and might actually take number 2 in the standings, given who they have left to play. R&S ARTICLE TOMORROW PROBABLY WITH POST SEASON STUFF.

also this playoff format is literally the most absurd thing ever
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:33:02
June 24 2009 21:32 GMT
#58
great work <3
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scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 21:46:44
June 24 2009 21:45 GMT
#59
thanks for putting this together, nice to see results all in 1 place

IMO SKT1 shouldn't be on top until they have the same games left as Oz with the same standing

and holy crap STX is wrecking everyone - looking forward to watching these guys
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-24 22:55:14
June 24 2009 22:38 GMT
#60
hi, carnac noticed some mistakes so I am fixing them now (mbc's place is wrong, Oz is missing a match in teamvsteam graphic), if you see anything else that is the wrong in the next day or so let me know!

Also I ran a model that predicts standings at the end of R5 based on past match performance, and it had STX at number 2. They have a good record vs all their remaining opponents so something like 10-1 is actually possible.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
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