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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-01 18:37:17
September 01 2005 17:32 GMT
#1
I really had hoped I could convey more of my thoughts than this but it's all I got without writing a book that gets all deep and philosophical, but take it for what it's worth please

Cause it's a bittersweet symphony, that's life. Tryin to make ends meet you're a slave to money and then you die. Between 20 and 3 years ago I was a very humble (don't let my old rampages on tl.net fool you), modest, generous, and philosophical person. From birth my parents raised me to be compassionate for my fellow man and always keep perspective of what really matters in life. They didn't specifically teach me things by sitting me down and talking to me but things like my dad coming home from a day of hard work in a shitty Honda worth about 50$ with a huge smile on his face asking me if I wanted to play catch conveyed those things to me. When I was a little boy I wanted to be a police officer...I ran around the house with various kinds of guns sometimes pretending to be Rambo or whoever was needed to save the day from the imaginary bad guys. Well guess what: If you're a professional poker player you're that bad guy.

Anyways, that genuine person was buried under a pile of money. I went to Korea and through a series of events you all already know I got rich quick. For a while year I did not once bother to think about life, philosophy, and all the things I did on an hourly basis the previous 19 years of my life. I was a drunken party animal every night buzzed up and on the hunt. It was the first time I had ever experienced such pleasurable things on a daily basis without sacrifice. None of my childhood dreams of being a police officer were at any point emitting any pleasurable aroma for my soul to sniff. The only thing I had was that wallet with two grand in it at all times emitting the noxious yet irresistible scent of freedom and fun. But was I really free?

I was talking last night with a friend, Daniel Lykins aka ilnp, and he made a very interesting point. "Poker money equals freedom. Yet it's just too much freedom. Almost everyone I know who is successful at poker is dangling in neutrality or worse off because they can't handle that freedom. Only a very very select few out of successful poker players are mature enough to handle all the immaturity that being a poker pro allows." He's very right. Sure you're a poker god and you drive a corvette and have a huge house. Your life is only about one thing. Material possession. Does that make you happy? If you really think so then keep going as a poker pro I guess. But lets do a little math: Roughly 20% of people who play poker are winning players I'm guessing. Out of that 20% Roughly 10% can handle it and truly enjoy ever moment of their life at the same time. 2%, 1 out of 50, 40% of your chances to hit a backdoor runner runner flush draw. Do you like your odds?

All the thoughts that I'm trying and convey in this article were instantly triggered a little while ago as I sat and watched a WSOP (World Series of Poker) episode that I downloaded onto my computer. I was watching and instantly hated Scott Fischmann. This guy is a very young and successful poker player who is now doing very well in the poker world. Like the very first hand he was already talking in third person, that short little frumpy fuck who plays cards is sitting there saying "Scott Fischmann is about to fold the best hand. Scott Fischmann has the best hand," as if he is something. Sure, maybe he's a nice guy but this just pissed me off. Then they did a little interlude segment for him where he talks about bankroll management and that he didn't finish college (I think) because he decided to pursue a career in poker. Thats when stuff started jumbling around in my brain. I was confused. I sat there watching, half naked in my 1800$/month apartment thinking..."Do I see myself in Vegas at that final table? Would I enjoy that? Do I want to be on ESPN telling the world how cool of a 'poker pro' I am?" For the last year of my life money really did make me happy. But now I'm burnt out and let me tell you now I find people who take great satisfaction and pride in having a bulging wallet and a monstrous bank account quite pathetic. Money cannot make me happy. Do I really want to be a poker pro?

No, I do not. All this money even corrupted me to a point where I was actually considering a career in business to maximize the money I could possibly make off poker through investments and such. I am literally laughing out loud as I think about how much of a fool I was not so long ago. Most people struggle really hard all their life to get by...yet when I walk by the Subway Sanwhich place near my house and see the 35-ish year old scrubby couple working there every day for atleast 12 hours and we exchange waves I see a truly genuine smile on their faces that can seriously warm the heart. They work so hard, they have no freedom because of financial issues yet they are truly happy. Happiness equals freedom. Not money. Is the business man who works 10+ hours a day making phone calls non-stop, writing up business plans, and meeting people that don't really give a shit about him a free soul? Well I guess if he enjoys what all that gives him (the ability to go to the most expensive hooker at night and the feeling of being someone known and important) then I cannot slander his lifestyle. But lets face it...odds are he probably does not truly enjoy that.

I suppose I'm trying to act like I have been enlightened but I'm still just an animal who has certain values. But my values are much different from most poker pros. They value money and intellectual domination of their fellow man. I value four things with the fourth being the most important: 1. Intellectual domination - Lets face it I enjoy being superior in strategy, mathematic, and intuition based games and things. 2. Bodily Domination - This I have just recently started but I want to get in great shape and take a little bit of martial arts. 3. Ability Domination - Having the experience and knowledge to take advantage of certain things and certain situations where I would normally be clueless. 4. Never ever using any of those three things to harm anyone financially or physically or emotionally but only to benefit my friends, myself, and any average random joe who is in dire need of help. Poker only satisifes one of those four things...the intellectual angle...but even there it only satisfies the gaming angle. So it satisfies like 30% of the intellectual angle, and 0% of everything else. So thats like 30% of one divided by the four others (I'm trying to be funny and serious at the same time help) is 7.5% of what I want to be. Odds are being a poker pro will make me into seven point five percent of what I want to be and do. Thats pretty bad EV.

All this being said I am going to change my life. I will have to be a hypocrite and maintain my current poker playing status for another year maybe in order to finance my life with ease (wow i'm a hypocrite!) but after that I'm done for good from a professional standpoint. But I might play for fun in college games once I get back to university. I'm pretty sure that I want to go back and fulfill my childhood dream. I shall study psychology or criminal justice, maybe combined and pursue a career from that angle. Maybe a cop? Maybe FBI? Maybe CIA? Who knows but I know I love that shit. Helping people makes me happy. And you all know banning people makes me happy (or does it!?!?!). But for the next year I shall workout, study Korean rigorously, and save money to prepare myself. I guess I'll have a little fun too...I'm only 20 afterall.

I still stand by all my points in my other articles. You don't have to go to college. You can do anything with your life just have fun and make sure you are happy in every moment and don't harm other people. If you play poker and you're losing you won't be happy. If you play poker and you're winning sure you'll be happy but you are harming other people. I used to think 'sure, it's their choice if they want to gamble I'm giving them fun!' but now I totally disagree with that. Even if that person is rich as hell and you're not harming him you are not benefiting society in any way you are just using it's goods for your pleasure. Owning rich people in poker and getting rich your self to me is the exact equivalent to some some spoiled brat living off his parents his whole life with no job. He is a waste of space. I'll go ahead and apologize to all the people I will take money from in my next year of poker playing but rest assured I will put it to good use in the future .

In summary: Winning at poker will not give you true freedom. Stop acting like you're cool wearing sunglasses indoors and get a job you fat fucks.

Thank you for reading,
Rekrul
why so 진지해?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27140 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-01 17:51:07
September 01 2005 17:33 GMT
#2
I think that after a couple years of extremely easy living in Korea you are simply not being challenged. Sure the money is nice, and conquest is nice, and the rewards are slick, but what is the purpose of it all? It's too easy.

Some people will forever be satisfied with the money and bitches. Other people experience it, and then grow beyond such a situation. I am sure that there are times when you have looked at your moniter after 12 hours of poker and just felt sick. It is just part of growing beyond a game. Probably people have felt the same way about BW now and then too (I sure have). I think you are just maturing into a better person.

To be honest, once I began teaching, I really felt a sense of satisfaction trying to connect to these kids. Many times they drive me fucking crazy, but at the end of the day I go home with a smile on my face. Thats worth a lot to me.

I just hope that your feeling now translate into something positive in the future. You can always ease your conscience by donating to the Manifesto7 beer fund as well. I will give it a good home.

ModeratorGodfather
Abang_Zealot
Profile Joined June 2003
Indonesia866 Posts
September 01 2005 17:34 GMT
#3
Haha you're good lightening the rather serious article with your ending remarks.
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-01 17:43:57
September 01 2005 17:41 GMT
#4
haha.

great song btw. :d

ps gl
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
September 01 2005 17:49 GMT
#5
Oh god I wanted to be a teenage mutant ninja turtle when i was little. I shall pursue that dream and quit poker!
River me timbers.
NeverEndingStory
Profile Joined February 2005
446 Posts
September 01 2005 17:50 GMT
#6
Hi Rek,again nice article.I usually agree with your posts,but this one really enlightened me that playing poker is EXACTLY what I'd enjoy the most,I prefer money than any other things and being rich is my most important goal in life,maybe it is not good and a lot of people can disagree with me but I am just that type of person.Good for you that you understood that's not your way of life enjoy your studies or be happy in any other way of life you choose,I think I'll stick with poker because I feel it is what I want to do and sometimes can play 15 hours straight without even feeling urge to stop.

I disagree with your last point,if you won't take money from rich fish somebody else will do it anyway.

btw.this song is really great
Playing pokah
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
September 01 2005 17:56 GMT
#7
Knowledge gives you freedom, not money. anyone can come tomorrow and take that money away from you and you'll left behind with NOTHING. Anyone whos proud of not studying and being arrogant abut all the money he wins without studies is a stupid fuck.


It was a good Read.
Moderator<:3-/-<
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-01 17:57:57
September 01 2005 17:57 GMT
#8
I have a feeling like 70% of TL.net needs to take your word of advice.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
September 01 2005 18:08 GMT
#9
I care mostly about recognition about what i do.. Not about the money i might make on it.

Great article, i had a interesting time reading it.
The artist formerly known as Starparty
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 01 2005 18:11 GMT
#10
everything is relative. there is nothing wrong with making an easy living.


im not sure what you're saying here

this superficial happiness through money/being good at poker/whatever you're talking about doesn't stem from the fact that the people are playing poker for a living, rather it's the opposite. the extremely competitive gambling type tends to often be like that.

but if you simply do not enjoy playing poker for a living or feel that your time would be better suited with another profession, then more power to you.

I don't understand how being in the fbi or cia or whatever the crap it is you want to do gives you any more "true freedom" than playing poker for a living. people have jobs because money makes life easier. there is much more to life than your profession.

and your stance on the morality of poker is just ridiculous. what you said can be said for a million other occupations.

man... your post really annoys me, does this not sound incredibly arrogant to anyone else?
ilnp
Profile Joined December 2002
Iceland1330 Posts
September 01 2005 18:12 GMT
#11
On September 02 2005 02:49 Muhweli wrote:
Oh god I wanted to be a teenage mutant ninja turtle when i was little. I shall pursue that dream and quit poker!


me too

i find time for poker and train martial arts up to 20 hrs/week
8===D~~
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 01 2005 18:15 GMT
#12
like i said in the intro travis, i wish i could write a lot more

actually i could write a philosophical article that makes my whole article look like shit and retarded

and i very much agree the morality stuff applies for a million other occupations, i never said otherwise...but this article is about poker
why so 진지해?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 01 2005 18:20 GMT
#13
i c
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-09-01 18:28:47
September 01 2005 18:23 GMT
#14
On September 02 2005 03:20 travis wrote:
i c


and you're right about much more to life than your profession

barry greenstein is a very respectable poker player

and i do see why you think my post is very arrogant..IT IS. my main point is: the vast majority of pro poker players are pathetic, but in the same way since my morality standpoint applies to many professions i'm saying many many many people are pathetic too

i came to the conclusion that i hate selfish fucks, and free loaders...which this world has many of

haha
why so 진지해?
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
September 01 2005 18:25 GMT
#15
perhaps you mean that playing poker will help no-one but yourself? When you win the big pot you only feel greedy? By taking a other profession you might feel like youre helping other people other than yourself?

dont get hung up on my choise of words, english is not my main language...
The artist formerly known as Starparty
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia1847 Posts
September 01 2005 18:31 GMT
#16
Haha, I started listening to that song at the exact second I saw the thread title, and I was like "woah" :p
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28637 Posts
September 01 2005 18:33 GMT
#17
suuuuuuch a good post

where the fuck is the social responsibility in people
I dont wanna make a huge post about this but I most certainly could.
Moderator
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
September 01 2005 18:40 GMT
#18
i don't believe in social responsibility, that's total bullshit.

I believe in ethics, but suggesting that when you are born you're in debt to society is retarded.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
September 01 2005 18:43 GMT
#19
travis you're lucky to have been born into a society with lots of surplus, thats why some people have the ability to freeload and get by easy, but most still don't

only the lucky few do

say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself?
why so 진지해?
prion
Profile Joined October 2003
Australia36 Posts
September 01 2005 18:50 GMT
#20
Everything else being equal,

I'd rather be rich and unhappy than poor and unhappy.
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