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So I'm only 20 and I havn't done this kind of dating, I'm more of a charming dude who dodge any kind of depth in a relationship. And I meet all my ladies where alcohol has been consumed in a somewhat large quantity.
So my last blog was bout older women, damn, so I succeded right. I'm taking a girl out whos a 86' and i'm a 88'.
Anyone got ideas on simple and not weird things to ask her to make her talk alot? Thats better cause if she feels shes been talking alot any bad vibes stuff could be pinned on her in the back of her head, cause psychologically people tend to do that if they know they have been speaking alot more than the other person. (cause then i'll be accepting of her anyway and I will know more about her than she about me, which always is an advantage)
Anyone has any other weird ideas or questions to ask girls during these things?
The goal might be a relationship if shes cool as I think she is.
p.s. i will not smoke weed as i have right now prior to the date, but maybe it could be good to smoke a tiny bit...
i'm mainly asking you guys this for fun btw, i wonder if you guys cuold come up with anything almost so great its evil to pull
  
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iNcontroL
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well.. chew with your mouth open. Girls like men who feel like they don't have to refine themselves when they are with a girl.. it's raw, sexy and commanding.
Don't pull her chair out or open the door. Women of this day and age are feminazis that want/can do all that we can and more. Impeding on her with said activities will only drive her away. Let her open doors for herself, seat herself and generally do what you would do if alone.
Don't grab the check. She is lucky to be with you. In fact I'd go use the restroom right before the check comes, take a long time and come back when you feel she has gotten the message, you won't pander to the traditional mumbo-jumbo.
Talk about yourself, and only yourself. She isn't on a date to discuss that which she already knows; her own life story. Fill her with exciting and new information like what you do for a living, why you are going to be an astronaut someday and how the government is doing it wrong and why you know how it should be done.
Flex repeatedly. Women tend to have smaller muscles and are amazed by masculine muscles. Make sure to draw her attention with lil gestures amped by wrist curl flexes and quad displaying leg straighteners.
You should be on a good start with this.
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I dont know if you are really funny or i'm just really really high man, but that was great
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It's completely dependent on what the girl's interested in and how good you are with women/how funny you are. I have friends who could woo a Baptist preacher's daughter by joking about anal sex with Jesus. I also have friends who could make the question "so what kind of music do you like" horribly awkward. It's more about you than the questions.
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I agree with Inc, also only let her talk about topics that somehow related to you, if it does not included or related to you in anyway, move on to the next topic.
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but i'm so cool that i'm afraid the entire conversation will be about me, i need Methods to flip it on her
teach me im ur padawan
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iNcontroL
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Don't be afraid. Fear leads to hatred. Hatred leads to anger.. anger, leads to the Dark Side of the Conversation: Her. They do nothing. They shop, talk on the phone, clean and cook. Sometimes they shake it up and have an affair or vote but that is pretty rare. Why waste your time discussing that shit? She certainly doesn't want it. Women view their bodies as prisons. They are trapped and envious of their male superiors. Help her feel free for a day and grace her with yourself.
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hm, you better call Red too then, Method alone might not be enough to draw away all the attention that you will get.
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play 20 questions!!
actually don't do that its a terrible idea. Do you have anything in common that you both like? Talk about it. Or past times you remember with her? Or is she a new acquaintance?
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Hey, this is a good learning opportunity for you Marklar, and hopefully a path to a more healthy kind of approach to romance (since you will do this sober - you WILL do this sober, won't you?)
Your mindset, judging from your post, is all wrong, but totally understandable!
The point of dating is not to force a relationship (or sex...) to happen. The point of dating is not to force someone to like you by acting "correctly." The point of dating IS to get to know each other and see if you have chemistry and things in common, enough so to warrant more interactions.
Realize that many women are simply not going to be right for you, and you won't be right for many women. So focus on being the best you for the woman who will like who you are. When romance is meant to happen, I ASSURE you that it happens very, very easily! That is, in fact, one of the best ways to guage things; if having a good time seems effortless, then you have yourself a very good match. Of course some people are nervous, and so it can be worth giving a person a second or third try if you aren't sure.
Don't do weird psychological mind games. Don't try to get her talking more just so she will be the one to feel guilty if things aren't going well. Don't try to be someone you aren't, either. Just talk when it seems right to talk. Just do what seems right in the moment. Again, it might go awkwardly and you may not have anything in common. That is totally normal, and happens often. Sooner you accept it, the sooner you can relax and just focus on finding the women you can click with.
I recommend being completely sober with women. What you don't want is to develop a need for any crutch (this is why using alcohol in romantic situations is probably unwise, unless you do so very sparingly).
Just go to lunch or dinner and play it all by ear. Talk about whatever comes up. Emphasize the best in yourself and express (genuine) interest in her. If things don't go well, don't stick around. If it goes well, invite her to something else (a walk, etc).
Just remember, this isn't life or death stuff. It isn't a test. It's just a learning experience. Whatever happens is right.
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iNcontroL
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On August 05 2008 03:18 Hypnosis wrote:
play 20 questions!!
actually don't do that its a terrible idea. Do you have anything in common that you both like? Talk about it. Or past times you remember with her? Or is she a new acquaintance?
Hypnosis asks a lot of questions and suggests that you do the same. Ignore him, he is feeble and weak. If this were Spartan times we would have left him on the hill to die.
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This is just not possible, sorry. =\
She's gonna be want to be swept off her feet like all women always. A nice restaurant is the hardest environment possible to accomplish that. You have to either play it James Bond and be all smart about everything and constantly make ironic remarks and interpret her every word as a sexual invite. This is gonna be hard given the age difference.
So, that leaves you with the other option, being crazily over the top energetic, building up momentum the whole evening until a point where you are able to pull off something like "come, let's go enjoy a glass of champaign on the rooftop!". Remember - this energy will leave you at a constant struggle of balancing on a very thin thread where if you fall - you're just a goofy kid, her little brother.
Stars in the eyes and a constant smile, damn - i hope she's worth it.
I would have gone with 'plan Q' which is making the first date a doubledate with a couple you know are gonna be all over eachother, constantly flirting and staring into eachothers eyes to the point where it's awkward and she's just gonna want to get out of there - which is when a whisper in her ear proclaiming your need for champaign on the roof is much more likely to fly.
Good luck
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thedeadhaji
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iNcontroL
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Another tactic to take is to appeal to her primal desire to be with the alpha male. Once you get into the restaraunt establish your presence by shooting death glares at every male within sight. The larger ones will probably need a double take and maybe even a full body pump-fake. Once you get into the place seat yourself and immediatly grab the knife and fork. Just hold them with the base of your closed fist on the table. Sit across from her so you can adequately make hip-thrusting girations below the table and stare at her breasts. Women love this. It's a mark of a powerful man that knows what it wants and won't look away. Now it is time for the real display of power. When the waiter comes to take your order grab him by the collar and smash his head down onto the table. Once there pee on him. This will create a scene but the upside is that every male in the place will know exactly who is the alpha male. Your date should be ready for mating now. You have established your domineering presence and (should) have gone unchallenged. It is pivotal that you take your mate to a new location as armed police are probably on the way. They have issues with alpha males.
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lol inc what do you smoke
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iNcontroL
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Alright ima bust out my secret weapon.
A lot of the time when I take a girl out on a first date and we go get some food I utilize what I call the "Care for and Nurture" tactic. We do everything as discussed, only I steer away from establishing the alpha male role as it usually results in a location change which isn't condusive to what I have planned. Before the meal have a few drinks, start heavy like with a long island or if under age, a 40 ounce malt liquor that you smuggled in your pants. Move on to more casual drinks like white russians or jager bombs. With the meal have 5-6 beers and cap it off with another long island or 3. While you continue to keep the conversation about yourself you also need to keep her from drinking. THis is hard because it requires multi-tasking but if executed the results are amazing. By the end of the dinner you should be beyond drunk.. falling over and bubbling lil half pukes should be running down your chin at an almost constant stream, but not constant because you want to give the impression that a well-timed kiss is possible.. don't worry, our end goal is far beyond that but the planted concept is what we are going for here.
She will need to pay because you are not coherent enough to do it. She will need to drive and get you home. She will come inside (score, I know) and get you into bed (See where this is going?). She will probably begin to undress you and get you ready for some bed action. Make the move. This will need a strategy shift, cannot talk about yourself at this point which is fine given the circumstances, tell her she is pretty and stroke her hair. Try and sober up, I usually put a lighter to my tongue while she isn't looking but something else can be done (use your imagination).
Now that I have you half naked with a woman in your bed the rest is up to you. She has natural nurturing tendencies because she is a mere woman. Play the book correctly and this can be a date for the ages.
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This thread was taken to heights of win i think no one would have guessed, beautiful iNc, beautiful.
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Christ didn't you ever go eat with a female friend or w/e, like at mcdonalds or something.
It's gonna be the same except for the amount of money it'll cost ya. Also if you want her to talk just ask her about any subject that interests her.
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Just keep it casual
Don't think TOO much about the age difference - just treat her as the same age.
Ask questions here and there - if she doesn't talk much, you fill it in.
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