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bongjwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States199 Posts
March 15 2010 07:49 GMT
#1
i play ddr occasionally and have a decent mat that is for ps2 which i bought a connector for and hooked it up to my pc. .

i use the mat strictly for ddr but recently i found out that the arrows actually take place of the keyboard arrows, so if i put it on the floor and sit in front of it i can scroll through pages with my feet pretty easily.. not really practical, but i do it out of boredom mostly. .

so naturally this got me thinking about using the feet arrows as the keyboard arrows and moving the screen around in starcraft.. it works, and at first i was clumsy as hell with it but with some adjustments to speed, sensitivity, etc. . i ended up being pretty good at it and found it actually useful in huge army vs army situations. .

so.. is using this cheating? i don't think the iccup anti-hack picks up on it. . and if the community deems it as an advantage i will stop but i must say i still suck with it (D+ zerg was best rank) and it's TONS of fun.. plus a little exercise in the heat of the moment

so even if you think this is wrong, i suggest you at least try it, that is if you have a console to usb adaptor and a dance mat. :D

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khy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States475 Posts
March 15 2010 07:54 GMT
#2
That's interesting as hell and I'd love to see it in action, but I'm going to have to call that an unfair advantage. Having to scroll across the map is a constraint that forces choice, which having the mat nullifies, imo.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-16 06:10:21
March 15 2010 07:55 GMT
#3
Yeah thats cheeting
Edit on second thoughts this is fine, if you think of it as the arrows on a keyboard its fine
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 23:50:34
March 15 2010 07:57 GMT
#4
That's pretty ingenious, boxer would love it since he used the arrow keys when he played.

I'm gonna go ahead and say use it, but good luck trying to use it anywhere else, and in the highly unlikely situation that you become very good it would be looked down upon heavily. So learning to play with it and then taking it away when it gets serious is only fucking yourself.

PS- Post a fucking video and/or pics ASAP!

PPS- where is the poll for this thread?
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Poll: Cheatin
(Vote): Cheatin
(Vote): Not Cheatin

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
March 15 2010 07:59 GMT
#5
That's fucking awesome, lol.

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H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
March 15 2010 08:00 GMT
#6
Technically, yes, but this falls squarely under the "who gives a shit if this is cheating" column.
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EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
March 15 2010 08:00 GMT
#7
gives whole new meaning to the phrase ddr terran
But why?
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 15 2010 08:01 GMT
#8
This would be good for laughs at lans, bad for everything else. Funny Idea though.
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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
March 15 2010 08:01 GMT
#9
I have to say that using the mat to scroll is pretty cool hahaha. If you can use it and it's set up I'd say sure use it. Obviously you'll have to do some explaining if you want to use it in tournaments haha. Pretty cool.
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deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
March 15 2010 08:01 GMT
#10
That is a pretty neat trick. I suppose it is an unfair advantage, but at the low levels it doesn't matter much.
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538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
March 15 2010 08:03 GMT
#11
Cheating? Hellooooo, the guy is scrolling starcraft with his legs while playing with two hands :D

Mad respect, I want a video
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petzergling
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
538 Posts
March 15 2010 08:07 GMT
#12
lol @ the people sayings its cheating
so if you put your foot up on your desk and press the arrow keys with it thats cheating too?
Mod Edit: Don't bold your entire post
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-15 08:20:12
March 15 2010 08:17 GMT
#13
On March 15 2010 17:07 petzergling wrote:
lol @ the people sayings its cheating
so if you put your foot up on your desk and press the arrow keys with it thats cheating too?

But he has remapped his keys to another thing that isn't his keyboard.

Even remapping hotkeys to different places on your keyboard is considered cheating in starcraft, so of course this is cheating.

However I agree with the 'As long as you aren't planning on using it in a tournament, this doesn't really matter...so go for it' sentiment.

Edit: Also, that is pretty awesome OP.
iamstr33t
Profile Joined June 2009
Netherlands30 Posts
March 15 2010 08:21 GMT
#14
On March 15 2010 17:07 petzergling wrote:
lol @ the people sayings its cheating

Yes OP asked for people's opinion on this.

so if you put your foot up on your desk and press the arrow keys with it thats cheating too?

No, you can handle you're keyboard however you want. Thing is, he uses an additional and non standard keyboard. You cannot use some big gamepad with all the keys mapped on starcraft keystrokes either. (or macroing keys, that hits "0p" automatically every 13 sec)

It's a great idea by the way.
bongjwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States199 Posts
March 15 2010 08:21 GMT
#15
okay ill post a video tomorrow you guys are going to laugh
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 15 2010 08:22 GMT
#16
Go for it.

At least until you get to A level....
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
March 15 2010 08:27 GMT
#17
I don't understand why people don't just scroll with their mouse. I still find that to be easier than using your feet.
:]
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
March 15 2010 08:28 GMT
#18
This is the coolest thing ever. I'm sure many would consider it cheating if used at a high level, but I simply can't discourage something so great.
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
March 15 2010 08:35 GMT
#19
On March 15 2010 17:21 bongjwa wrote:
okay ill post a video tomorrow you guys are going to laugh


This is going to be funny. I'm tempted to set this up too it sounds fun and i can finally tell my opponents " yeah i just beat you using my feet. sup. "
meow
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
March 15 2010 08:43 GMT
#20
On March 15 2010 16:55 Scaramanga wrote:
Yeah thats cheeting

It's not cheating.
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