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I feel like my soul has become tainted after watching this movie. Like I've lost some part of my humanity or something. There was a point in the movie where I just paused it, looked down, and said to myself, "GrayArea, this is the first and last time I am ever going to watch this kind of movie."
The way I appreciate things in life is whether they can inspire me, or make me be something better. I want to come out of a movie saying, "I want to be a hero, I want to inspire the world around me, I want to save the world." I know that this may not be possible, but the movie should make me believe it anyway. Why? Because I feel that if you set your bars high enough in life, even if you don't reach your goal you are still pretty high up.
This movie made me feel the opposite. I didn't find one piece of value in that movie personally. Nothing to inspire me to become something better, or do something great, or believe in something true, or any type of positive feeling. It's like I've become more numb to the truth that people are not going to (or don't have the capability) to become a hero in life. (It's stated in the movie along the lines that people have false notions of becoming big/successful people in life.)
I won't discredit the fact that the movie is portrayed well, or that anything inherent with regards to the way the movie is structured is bad. The plot and whatnot is solid. But with regards to its fundamental significance in terms of moral value, or its "inspire" factor, this movie more than fails.
In the end, it all depends on what you want to get out of a movie. I don't watch many movies because I only try and see the best movies, the one's that I know can inspire me. For others, they may want to see some good acting, or fighting/violence/action, etc. With regards to my standards though, this movie failed hard.
  
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You should watch Requiem for a Dream.
On a serious note, the movie didn't fail, you are just judging it by criteria that the film maker never intended to live up to. That is like if I watched 'The King and I' and said it failed because there wasn't enough gore and nudity.
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I heard it is meant to be a comedy
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On August 13 2009 14:22 Lemonwalrus wrote:
You should watch Requiem for a Dream.
On a serious note, the movie didn't fail, you are just judging it by criteria that the film maker never intended to live up to. That is like if I watched 'The King and I' and said it failed because there wasn't enough gore and nudity.
Ya, that's what I basically said in the last paragraph. I agree with that. But I don't know, I've never watched this type of movie before. Where there was just nothing in it. The movie itself was pretty good, but ya, it was kind of disturbing for me.
On August 13 2009 14:24 Badjas wrote:
I heard it is meant to be a comedy
I heard it was a good film and watched it because of that. I knew what it was about, I just hoped for something more. It's my fault, but still, for some reason I haven't seen another movie before that made me feel this way.
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Chuck Pa-however-the-fuck you spell his name's dad died like halfway writing the book so I imagine he was a little disillusioned at the time as well.
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Well it definitely is the worst movie in terms of looking for inspiration according to traditional moral values and standards. I mean the movie's theme is anti-society against the repression of our more barbaric, physical instincts and desires.
Personally I really enjoyed it for the cinematic value and the fact that it really just kind of kicked my ass because I had no idea what was coming at any point. Most movies nowadays are dreadfully predictable but to me at least, Fight Club was not.
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I am Jack's complete lack of surprise...
Listen up, maggots. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
I clearly remember there's the music theme of Zerg, somewhere in the movie.
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+ Show Spoiler +I think if they left out the split personality thing it would be a better movie. Just my two cents.
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On August 13 2009 14:28 cgrinker wrote:
Chuck Pa-however-the-fuck you spell his name's dad died like halfway writing the book so I imagine he was a little disillusioned at the time as well.
Woah I had no idea it was based on a novel, I'll have to check that out.
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Fight club is easy.
Watch movies like salo or irreversible or whatnot and the effect is 1000x more powerful than in fight club.
I think fight club is almost pop corn entertainment compared to real movies about how life is shit and people=shit
Fight club is a really good movie though! It does raise some thoughts but i dont find it to be that much moving to me
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facing the truth is heroic
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On August 13 2009 14:30 Athos wrote:+ Show Spoiler +I think if they left out the split personality thing it would be a better movie. Just my two cents.
Ya I totally agree with this.
+ Show Spoiler +If he somehow stopped tyler, brought down his group, stopped the bomb, and came up with some inspiring image on how to make the world better, it would have been good. But the end is like...wtf....
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I thought Fight Club had some inspire factor. "stop trying to control everything and JUST LET GO!", "you aren't your fucking khaki's", and "let that which does not matter truly slide" did something for me. It's not the kind of shit you'd get out of Rocky, but I think the message that people need to stop obsessing over things that aren't actually important, and have the balls to go after what you truly want out of life, regardless of dangers, consequences, standards, etc, was inspiring.
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Not that I think its ok to judge you but since you seemed to have passed judgement so easily after watching the movie once....
It seems from your review that you like to ignore harsh realities of the world. I just got the feeling that you actively block out or avoid things that bring down your spirit. Not really a good way to take on life.
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On August 13 2009 14:38 Ack1027 wrote:
Not that I think its ok to judge you but since you seemed to have passed judgement so easily after watching the movie once....
It seems from your review that you like to ignore harsh realities of the world. I just got the feeling that you actively block out or avoid things that bring down your spirit. Not really a good way to take on life.
It's not that I ignore the realities of the world. If I did, then why would I care about being inspired or try to be someone better? No, the reason I filter movies to those that inspire is because I know that the world has harsh realities, and I want to change them into something positive rather than sit and accept it. If your life sucks you should work to change it, not accept it for how it is.
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Fair enough.
It was interesting to see your point of view, it is very different from my own.
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First of all I really like this movie for many reasons. One of them is that being all comercial holywood A class movie it has a powerfull artistic narrative content, besides the great film technique.
As a good piece of art (notice that not every movie could be called art) you will love it or hate it. Art is not gray, many movies are.
On August 13 2009 14:19 GrayArea wrote:
I feel like my soul has become tainted after watching this movie. Like I've lost some part of my humanity or something. There was a point in the movie where I just paused it, looked down, and said to myself, "GrayArea, this is the first and last time I am ever going to watch this kind of movie."
Seems to my by the 2 bold things that the movie succeded with honors. Is your choice, anyway, but I try things that I dont like a lot when is about movies or art.
The way I appreciate things in life is whether they can inspire me, or make me be something better. I want to come out of a movie saying, "I want to be a hero, I want to inspire the world around me, I want to save the world." I know that this may not be possible, but the movie should make me believe it anyway. Why? Because I feel that if you set your bars high enough in life, even if you don't reach your goal you are still pretty high up.
This movie made me feel the opposite. I didn't find one piece of value in that movie personally. Nothing to inspire me to become something better, or do something great, or believe in something true, or any type of positive feeling. It's like I've become more numb to the truth that people are not going to (or don't have the capability) to become a hero in life. (It's stated in the movie along the lines that people have false notions of becoming big/successful people in life.)
I think this has much to do with yourself. This movie inspires me many things, some of them destructive, yes, but some really constructive thoughts.
I won't discredit the fact that the movie is portrayed well, or that anything inherent with regards to the way the movie is structured is bad. The plot and whatnot is solid. But with regards to its fundamental significance in terms of moral value, or its "inspire" factor, this movie more than fails.
In the end, it all depends on what you want to get out of a movie. I don't watch many movies because I only try and see the best movies, the one's that I know can inspire me. For others, they may want to see some good acting, or fighting/violence/action, etc. With regards to my standards though, this movie failed hard.
I would like to know, wich movie did you like? just to have an idea.
May I recomend you some movies? maybe you wont like them... but are still good movies, and anyone should see them:
Brazil, by Terry Gilliam, 1985
Midnight Cowboy, by John Schlesinger, 1969
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On August 13 2009 14:34 GrayArea wrote:Ya I totally agree with this. + Show Spoiler +If he somehow stopped tyler, brought down his group, stopped the bomb, and came up with some inspiring image on how to make the world better, it would have been good. But the end is like...wtf....
and then a prince on a unicorn could come in and they could ride off into the sunset!
seriously, you're judging this film by standards it was never meant to adhere to... it's like if you watch a Saw movie and then complain that's it's not good for children...
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Requiem for a Dream - After the movie Im just like wtf just happened. lol
Fight club - really good movie, also I was like wtf after the climax
Memotos - im also like wtf after the movie. and like holy mofo
The fountain - im also like damn that is a fucking good movie... i wish i watched this when i was high.
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On August 13 2009 14:44 GrayArea wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2009 14:38 Ack1027 wrote:
Not that I think its ok to judge you but since you seemed to have passed judgement so easily after watching the movie once....
It seems from your review that you like to ignore harsh realities of the world. I just got the feeling that you actively block out or avoid things that bring down your spirit. Not really a good way to take on life. It's not that I ignore the realities of the world. If I did, then why would I care about being inspired or try to be someone better? No, the reason I filter movies to those that inspire is because I know that the world has harsh realities, and I want to change them into something positive rather than sit and accept it. If your life sucks you should work to change it, not accept it for how it is.
Thats very Tyler`s thinking... just a different work meaning.
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