• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:00
CEST 17:00
KST 00:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested0RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 202611Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)10[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0
StarCraft 2
General
TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? RSL: S6 Finals played at BlizzCon 2026 Weekly Cups (June 8-14): Clem and Solar double, PTR tested Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners High level ptr replays? where can I find them?
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 530 One For All The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Where is EffOrt? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Relatively freeroll strategies Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Total War: Warhammer 40K Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread [H]Internet/Gaming Cafe Tips and Tricks Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Does Workplace Frustration D…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10458 users

[H]Low Budget Computer Upgrade

Blogs > distant_voice
Post a Reply
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-11 19:13:58
August 10 2009 08:46 GMT
#1
Hey,

I haven't built a computer or cared for hardware in like 10 years so I have no idea anymore what to buy. Everything seems to have gotten pretty complicated too.

Until 3 weeks ago I ran a 3800+ AMD Single Core with 2 GB Ram and a 7600GT. Then my computer started crashing. I couldn't really make out a pattern, but since it powered down without warning (the lights just went out) I figured it was a cooling problem, so I disassembled the CPU and Cooler to see what was wrong. Unfortunately, being the noob that I am, I broke some pins of the CPU in the process and now it's broken. So I need a little upgrade.

I'm extremely short on money so i just want to buy a new mainboard and CPU+Cooler. I'm not sure if I have to buy new RAM, I think the one on my old board is DDR or DDR2.

So my question is what should I buy for less than 200 €, preferably even less. Do I have to buy a new PSU / RAM / Case? I'm planning on using my old graphics card.

Thanks in advance for your help, I know a lot of you guys are pretty knowledgable on this subject.

P.S.: Do you think just buying a new CPU / Cooler (the old ones are glued together) is an option? I still don't know why the damn thing started crashing...

EDIT: Thanks again all! I applied some new thermal paste, used the old cooler and bent the pins of the CPU back in place. It seems to be working fine now. What a relief...

This is my truth, tell me yours!
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
August 10 2009 08:48 GMT
#2
200 € is about 280 $
150€ is about 210$
This is my truth, tell me yours!
ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
August 10 2009 08:57 GMT
#3
You can actually get a decent low-end conroe core 2 with ~$280. Look for mobo+cpu bundles on newegg, tigerdirect, and ncix. Sometimes if you're lucky, you can find an amazing deal, especially when they clear out the older-gen stuff.

As for RAM, yes you need to buy some DDR2 sticks, as your current ones are most likely DDR. But RAM is cheap as dirt these days, you can get 2x2GB for around ~$50.
ImNotBisu
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada142 Posts
August 10 2009 08:59 GMT
#4
And yes, buying a new CPU is fine, I assume your mobo is socket 939, because that's what 3800+'s are used on. You can still probably find a cheap athlon 64 S939 for less than $50.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-10 09:04:17
August 10 2009 09:03 GMT
#5
with overheating, I think you'll generally see BSODs

if your PC was randomly shutting down, I think the likely problem is a faulty PSU

the CPU & cooler are also not glued together, just pull really hard in a twisting fasion to attempt to separate the CPU & cooler. try to avoid using tools so you don't scratch the cooler
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
August 10 2009 09:10 GMT
#6
With that kind of budget, I wouldn't bother upgrading half-heartedly. I'd just buy an old CPU that fits into your mainboard for some cheap bucks and save the money for a larger upgrade at a later point. You won't enjoy a reasonably fast CPU if the rest of your stuff is old and slow.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 10 2009 10:35 GMT
#7
I think you can buy a budget AMD setup with good upgrade path for that money.
Rillanon.au
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
August 10 2009 11:51 GMT
#8
You'd better find out what was wrong with your pc first. If the problem is the PSU, you'd better fix that first Ask someone local to have a look if you don't know what you're doing, pc fault diagnosis over forum isn't the easiest matter :p

If everything is alright, another option would be to just buy a new CPU, cheapest solution, and you weren't dissatisfied with your original setup, no?
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
distant_voice
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Germany2521 Posts
August 10 2009 13:45 GMT
#9
how can I find out wether my PSU is faulty?
This is my truth, tell me yours!
LuckyOne
Profile Joined December 2006
266 Posts
August 10 2009 13:59 GMT
#10
probably overheating try to apply some new thermal paste , about your cpu pin are they broken or just twisted if so you can fix it. Remove dust too. Then if that works buy a new graphic card with the money instead
indecision
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Germany818 Posts
August 10 2009 16:58 GMT
#11
On August 10 2009 17:48 distant_voice wrote:
200 € is about 280 $
150€ is about 210$

when you're buying hardware in Germany 1 EUR = 1 USD or so it seems to me
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Spring Champion…
11:00
Group Stage 2
WardiTV1309
TaKeTV 407
Ryung 211
Rex169
IndyStarCraft 148
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 211
Rex 169
IndyStarCraft 148
Railgan 63
SHIN 24
RushiSC 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4966
Sea 3549
Shuttle 2162
EffOrt 1140
Soulkey 460
Light 435
Soma 375
firebathero 350
Snow 224
ggaemo 193
[ Show more ]
Rush 193
Free 181
Pusan 144
hero 130
Mong 128
scan(afreeca) 80
Sharp 79
Sea.KH 74
Backho 72
Hyun 66
yabsab 24
Rock 23
Sacsri 23
sorry 21
zelot 18
soO 17
IntoTheRainbow 16
GoRush 14
Bale 14
Shine 13
Terrorterran 12
Dota 2
qojqva3283
Dendi1460
420jenkins328
Counter-Strike
zeus345
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King109
Other Games
gofns29328
tarik_tv8227
B2W.Neo907
Lowko742
hiko586
Hui .182
Liquid`VortiX160
XaKoH 159
ArmadaUGS68
Trikslyr63
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream6408
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream365
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 21
• mYiSmile113
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota232
League of Legends
• Jankos2145
• TFBlade695
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
9h
Replay Cast
18h
The PondCast
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
GSL
3 days
Maru vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Reynor
herO vs Lambo
Solar vs Clem
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
4 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Replay Cast
4 days
GSL
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
5 days
Dewalt vs Messiah
Bonyth vs Mihu
TerrOr vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs Messiah
Jaystar vs Mihu
Dewalt vs XuanXuan
Bonyth vs TerrOr
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Weekly
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-06-15
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
BCC 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.