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intruding
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Carnation[NeoN]
United States26 Posts
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
the only place to buy the game is on steam, it is an online distribution thingamajig that takes care of everything. you buy it, download the game through steam, launch the game through steam. couldn't be any easier. ESEA is a semi-good competitive scene, but the skill level even at the lowest level on ESEA is really high, so play on public servers for a good bit while you get the hang of the game/learn to aim | ||
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blabber
United States4448 Posts
your video card is good enough to run cs 1.6 go to www.steampowered.com for more info | ||
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Hiphopapotamus
United States121 Posts
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
Almost because it started getting old, so for some reason this computer lags a lot now. Used to play a ton on this, so your 3 year old one should run it just fine. | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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Klapdout
United States282 Posts
its $10, no reason to pirate it Minimum: 500 mhz processor, 96mb ram, 16mb video card, Windows 2000/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection Recommended: 800 mhz processor, 128mb ram, 32mb+ video card, Windows 2000/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection. You could have simplified this thread greatly by simply giving us your system specs, but you would need a pretty old computer not to play cs 1.6. | ||
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
Also, ESEA has a great pug system to get you into the thick of things, but I suggest logging a bit of time in pubs before moving onto that. After that, it's all about how much time you put into it. CS draws a lot of parallels with SC. You have to have strats prepared for the maps, it requires good decision making, analyzing demos - your own and better players - and it demands mechanical proficiency. Honestly, with a bit of training/practice and adjustment, I'd say a good SC player could be a decent CS player and vice versa. Also, make sure you choose the right servers in pubs. Avoid the crap like zombie mod and warcraft mod. At most, gungame is good to help you learn all of the guns, but don't log too much into that. Make sure you're playing good maps (dust2, nuke, train, inferno off the top of my head, there's more) and make sure you're playing smaller games. 32 man and 64 man games can be fun, but don't help out, as it's usually just massive rushes (think just playing cheese over and over on Iccup). 20 mans are the biggest I'd suggest. | ||
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Neivler
Norway911 Posts
On August 01 2009 20:17 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote: Also, make sure you choose the right servers in pubs. Avoid the crap like zombie mod and warcraft mod. Warcraft mode is awsome! But your skill will drop dramatically if if play it, it is a the more you play the better weapons you get. But indeed very funny! | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Just keep that in mind. Yes it can run on Voodoo's or Geforce 1's but nobody who ever amounted to anything in competitive 1.6 used those cards. If you're just looking to be a good pubber or have fun then yeah most any card will do. Onboard will not cut it. | ||
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intruding
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Onboard intel video from your motherboard is not even close to what you need to run CS 1.6. I would estimate that you would get maybe 30-50 frames. I have played CS 1.4-1.6 for years. The current version is the hardest to run yet with all the ads added in-game by steam. Any time there is a smoke grenade or lots of gunfire your frames will drop by at least 10 if you use an onboard. You will need an actual separate card to go into your agp or pci-e slot depending on what system you have. I'm guessing you have an agp system if your computer is from 2006. ' Not cutting it ' basically translates to ' x is not enough. ' or ' x is insufficient '. Edit: Also...Nobody said onboard is good enough. All of these people immediately contradict themselves: On August 01 2009 18:31 Adeny wrote: Starcraft only has a year or 3 on CS. An overclocked gameboy color could probably run it. That said for a reasonably good playing experience you want 60 FPS with vsync at the very least. Exaggeration here by saying an overclocked gameboy color could run it. Then he says 60 fps with vysnc at the very least is what you need to run. Wrong, anyone who has played cs 1.6 even long ago with shitty computers played with vsync off for better framerate. There's no way onboard video runs your game at a solid 60 fps. On August 01 2009 18:09 BanZu wrote: The computer that I'm using atm is 5-6 years old and it can almost run CS. Almost because it started getting old, so for some reason this computer lags a lot now. Used to play a ton on this, so your 3 year old one should run it just fine. The computer can't run CS anymore because the game has changed through updates and the addition of in-game ads. On August 01 2009 17:34 benjammin wrote: honestly, cs 1.6 could probably run on a super nintendo. it's almost 6 years old since the 1.6 release, so even onboard video cards are plenty capable, the only thing you might possibly run into some trouble with are the smoke sprites, but i'm guessing you'll probably get well over 100fps at all times Again, exaggeration by saying a super nintendo could run it. CS 1.6 couldn't be run the day it came out on onboard video, so what does coming out 6 years ago have anything to do with its system spec requirements in that sense? When it came out it couldn't be run on onboard video and today it can't be run on onboard video. | ||
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
could it be that onboard video has gotten better in the last 6 years? i can run cs 1.6 through wine emulation on my macbook with a gma950 onboard video and get consistently 60fps, i doubt whatever OP is running could be any worse | ||
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Hiphopapotamus
United States121 Posts
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FXOTheoRy
United States519 Posts
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Hiphopapotamus
United States121 Posts
On August 02 2009 02:38 benjammin wrote: /facepalm could it be that onboard video has gotten better in the last 6 years? i can run cs 1.6 through wine emulation on my macbook with a gma950 onboard video and get consistently 60fps, i doubt whatever OP is running could be any worse IIRC you want 100 fps minimum since most servers run at 100 tick rate. Running the game at 100 fps gives you slightly better registration with the server. | ||
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intruding
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On August 02 2009 02:38 benjammin wrote: /facepalm could it be that onboard video has gotten better in the last 6 years? i can run cs 1.6 through wine emulation on my macbook with a gma950 onboard video and get consistently 60fps, i doubt whatever OP is running could be any worse Why are you facepalming.... Why are you talking about your own system? The OP and myself don't really care what the hell you have. He is asking if his late 2006 system [ which he clearly specified ] can run it. Stop giving useless advice like ' oh a super nintendo could run it '. 2009 - 2006 = 6 years apparently. Edit: http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/321641-woot-gma950.html I'm sure you know more than those people. Also get a screen shot of you shooting while running left and right with two smoke grenades off in 60 fps. I'm pretty sure you can't do that and if he's playing in a pub he'll be experiencing much worse. Edit2: Your system intruding: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=719759 | ||
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Strayline
United States330 Posts
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intruding
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Anyway I have given all the advice I can regarding your issue. I tried to help because I have played many versions of cs for a long period of time over many different systems and didn't want you to have a shitty cs experience just because all your replies were the same. In the end it is your decision. Imo there are very few reasons you can't just buy a cheap $30-60 card and not have to worry about any lag/skip/drops in a pub. Hf. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On August 02 2009 01:50 Ack1027 wrote: Yes it can run on Voodoo's or Geforce 1's but nobody who ever amounted to anything in competitive 1.6 used those cards. If you're just looking to be a good pubber or have fun then yeah most any card will do. Onboard will not cut it. And what were the best cards when CS was released ? ... Don't tell me that people waited the 9800 to play CS and be competitive lol. Any card nowadays will run CS perfectly. ANY ( yea even the shittiest ) And btw the GeForce 1 is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Voodoo 3 ;3 edit: I thought this thread was a level tbh. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 02 2009 04:42 Boblion wrote: And what were the best cards when CS was released ? ... Don't tell me that people waited the 9800 to play CS and be competitive lol. Any card nowadays will run CS perfectly. ANY ( yea even the shittiest ) And btw the GeForce 1 is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Voodoo 3 ;3 edit: I thought this thread was a level tbh. The graphics and maps were substantially simpler and no one used smokes. I don't think smokes were even legal until 1.5 because they caused crashes, and then they modified how smokes work in 1.6. Now every SOB in pubs is using smokes/flashes at every opportunity. ;o Any card will run CS perfectly, but onboard is a different story and the OP has an old computer (P4.) It'll definitely run, at least in software mode, but I don't think you'll be able to get above 60fps. Give it a shot though, I could be wrong. | ||
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
On August 02 2009 03:11 Strayline wrote: Btw... I've been wondering: What exactly is the difference between 1.6 and source that make 1.6 so much more "skill based?" For one part your head hitbox isn't as big as a watermelon A lot more subtle things like turning around to get half-blinded by flash as opposed to source flashbangs In 1.6 Recoil for certain guns, while tough to control, have a pattern so that experienced players can use it to move their mouse in an exact pattern to keep it roughly in the same spot while spraying while source it's just random but doesn't matter since you can just 1 click the head in source, not difficult. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
You could play H-L with a 133 mhz minimum  Any comp > 500 mhz and a card > Geforce 1 will run CS although the loading might be a bit long. I used to play on Italy, Aztec, Dust 1/2 etc ... and i'm sure i had at least 30-40 fps. A 2ghz P4 ( i assume his freq is > 2 ghz ) is way better than my comp so it should run fine ( 60 fps at least ) even with a bad card... ( i doubt it can be worse than a Geforce 1 lol ) | ||
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On August 02 2009 05:15 Boblion wrote: Dude CS uses H-L 1 engine. You could play H-L with a 133 mhz minimum Any comp > 500 mhz and a card > Geforce 1 will run CS although the loading might be a bit long. I used to play on Italy, Aztec, Dust 1/2 etc ... and i'm sure i had at least 30-40 fps. A 2ghz P4 ( i assume his freq is > 2 ghz ) is way better than my comp so it should run fine ( 60 fps at least ) even with a bad card... ( i doubt it can be worse than a Geforce 1 lol ) It's not a processor heavy game. I think a GeForce 1 + older CPU may actually have an advantage over Integrated + newer CPU. | ||
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Hiphopapotamus
United States121 Posts
CS 1.6 competitive play = 100fps MINIMUM (this is to make you more synced to servers) CS 1.6 != CS when it was first released. You cannot give advice based on the computer requirements back then (entirely different gameplay and graphics). I HIGHLY doubt your onboard video will give you smooth fps (let alone 100fps) when more than one smoke is in vision. Smokes in CS are more demanding than one might think. Buy a video card. | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
On August 02 2009 02:11 Ack1027 wrote: The computer can't run CS anymore because the game has changed through updates and the addition of in-game ads. When exactly were the major updates? | ||
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clazziquai
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I can't really think of what the problem is. I know it has to do something with your Internet connection (I think..) and I set my rates to 25000, cl_cmdrate and updaterate to 101 and fps_max to 101. I don't know what could be wrong. Aside from my sister using the computer without much downloading, there is nothing else (no torrents, browsers) that are running. =/ | ||
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
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DrTJEckleburg
United States1080 Posts
On August 02 2009 06:16 Hiphopapotamus wrote: Some notes CS 1.6 competitive play = 100fps MINIMUM (this is to make you more synced to servers) CS 1.6 != CS when it was first released. You cannot give advice based on the computer requirements back then (entirely different gameplay and graphics). I HIGHLY doubt your onboard video will give you smooth fps (let alone 100fps) when more than one smoke is in vision. Smokes in CS are more demanding than one might think. Buy a video card. This is also very true, 1.5 ran perfectly on my old comp but when 1.6 came out it was down to 30-40 fps constant. Cl_flushentity packets are almost always due to connectivity issues. | ||
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