Hidden hospital fees? - Page 2

On July 31 2009 21:19 Adeny wrote:


Move. To Norway.

On July 31 2009 11:28 Ingenol wrote:


Not sure I'd say it's "one of the shittiest" but I definitely agree in its current incarnation it is a very poor system as our friend here is unfortunately finding out. Where I differ is that I would see it fixed by going to a completely privatized system (it's not even close to that now in any sense whatsoever, so don't take that tack) rather than completely nationalized.

On July 31 2009 20:40 FirstProbe wrote:


That's retarded, and you know it. How indecent are you. You sicken me.

Health care is incredibly expensive to provide and nothing will change that. I doubt they've charged you more than they would any other case - however, its not fair that the cost hasn't been correctly conveyed to you.

The estimate you got was probably the surgical fee. In a private system, that doesn't account for the pathology, anaesthesiology, and other hospital stay related bills.

If you can imagine that the drugs and equipment alone cost several hundred dollars, let alone the anaesthetic fee, then you'll begin to appreciate the size of the bill you've gotten.

On July 31 2009 20:40 FirstProbe wrote:


That's retarded, and you know it. How indecent are you. You sicken me.

Health care is incredibly expensive to provide and nothing will change that. I doubt they've charged you more than they would any other case - however, its not fair that the cost hasn't been correctly conveyed to you.

The estimate you got was probably the surgical fee. In a private system, that doesn't account for the pathology, anaesthesiology, and other hospital stay related bills.

If you can imagine that the drugs and equipment alone cost several hundred dollars, let alone the anaesthetic fee, then you'll begin to appreciate the size of the bill you've gotten.

On July 31 2009 11:04 Chef wrote:

The only operation that is hard to get in a nationalized health care system is organ transplants. And those are hard to get in a privatized system too, although you can artificially bump yourself up the list.

But if you break your arm or you need a circumcision or whatever, you'll be pretty happy with national health care. Lots of people I know who would be financially ruined if they'd had to pay for their healthcare.

On August 02 2009 06:39 CharlieMurphy wrote:
wow, couldn't you get on some kind of low pro insurance to cover some of those costs?

On August 02 2009 11:46 ShinSa.NokCha wrote:


I've been rejected from 5 health insurance companies because my mom has too many health complications.

Update: I called the company and they told me that i was "knocked out" for too long during the operation. Thats why they were charging me another 700 dollars. -_-? I'm so confused. They said the operation was supposed to take 1 hour but i was out for 2 hours. How the hell do i have any control over that :[.

Is there anything i can do? Or am i screwed? I can't even pay for some of my college classes if this debt goes through.

On August 02 2009 08:28 Aegraen wrote:


This myth that Nationalized Healthcare is free needs to be put to an end. It's not free. You pay in increased taxes. You pay more for an inferior system that can deny you based on artificial outliers such as Age, needs, how many on the list, etc. Why anyone would give any beaurocrats so much power over your life I have no idea.

I repeat; nationalized healthcare is NOT free. You pay in massive increased taxes and then its still not even enough to pay for the system as evidenced by both Britain and Canada who are running massive shortfalls on their healthcare systems.

Lastly, you may enjoy your system now, when you are young and in good health, but when you get older and waiting an extra month or two for an operation means life and death, or when they deny you because it costs 5,000$ to do the operation and the government deems you only living for another year so it doesn't pass the cost:benefit analysis and you don't get the treatment/surgery, etc. you sure won't be liking it then.

Point is, be self-sufficient. Government is not benevolent.

On August 02 2009 12:14 Verilan wrote:

Way to scarecrow it up there Aegraen. I don't think a single person before you in this thread touted nationalized healthcare as free, and I've never heard anyone argue for it as free.

On August 02 2009 11:52 Aegraen wrote:


Hospitals are notorious for negotiating prices and payments akin to buying a car. Simply put, you payed for the Anesthesia all ready, they can't double bill you. Don't pay it. You have the proof, they can't garnish your wages for the amount you owe. (Hospitals are known for reducing what you owe if you can't pay. That 700$ in a few months will be knocked down to 400, then a few months later 200, etc. In the end, don't pay.)

Also, each person reacts differently to the Anesthesia some get knocked out longer than others. You don't pay for the amount of time, you pay for the amount used. Time is irrelevant.