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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
I am not interested in doing competitions or the sport aspect of fighting. I want to learn how to fight because I want to be able to defend myself. If someone jumps me or stalks me I want to be able to outrun that person (so I run tree times a week). If I can't run away I want to be able to do whatever necessarily so I can gtfo. Please share insight and experience!  | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
 @Mikilatov: jkjk, i actually thought what you did was ok (albeit very dick lol), given the circumstances | ||
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Hot77.iEy
Finland1486 Posts
On July 15 2009 17:19 Patriot.dlk wrote: I am not interested in doing competitions or the sport aspect of fighting. I want to learn how to fight because I want to be able to defend myself. Krav Maga. | ||
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NastyMarine
United States1252 Posts
MMA for sport | ||
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Xenixx
United States530 Posts
On July 15 2009 17:19 Patriot.dlk wrote: This is something I feel would be a very good thing to learn I am not interested in doing competitions or the sport aspect of fighting. I want to learn how to fight because I want to be able to defend myself. If someone jumps me or stalks me I want to be able to outrun that person (so I run tree times a week). If I can't run away I want to be able to do whatever necessarily so I can gtfo. Please share insight and experience! why are you so worried about fighting? or confrontation? the majority of people spend their whole lives never having either happen | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
Krav Maga | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
On July 15 2009 17:35 Xenixx wrote: why are you so worried about fighting? or confrontation? the majority of people spend their whole lives never having either happen who said i'm so worried? I have insurance for my car, always had but I never used it. It's basically normal cardio workout that makes you feel healthy and strong. Tell me this, Why wouldn't I learn how to fight? | ||
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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KrAzYfoOL
Australia3037 Posts
On July 15 2009 17:19 Patriot.dlk wrote: If someone jumps me or stalks me I want to be able to outrun that person (so I run tree times a week). You sound worried alright  | ||
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Tracil
Australia505 Posts
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Hehe. Well, I would exercise regardless. I only worded it like that to make make sure I have I came across as someone who wants to defend not attack. Of course I have other motivations to run then this! I want to be in good shape because it feels good. It also feels good to have basic protection skills. | ||
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sk`
Japan442 Posts
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
I could tell 10 stories at least. So everyone thinks Krav Maga... I think so also but one concern I have is that they might practice to soft? | ||
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Stratos.FEAR
Canada706 Posts
on the side note...where does one learn krav maga? | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
On July 15 2009 18:14 Stratos.FEAR wrote: well traditional martial arts has a much lower emphasis on the sport fighting but then again its kinda hard to find such places and some ppl dont like their styles of discipline. on the side note...where does one learn krav maga? In sweden where I live I can practice under this guyThough he only teach very few beginner classes: He's from Krav Maga Academy Göteborg (part of International Krav Maga Federation). | ||
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Stratos.FEAR
Canada706 Posts
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Adeny
Norway1233 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On July 15 2009 18:34 Stratos.FEAR wrote: well if that guys there go for krav maga by all means rofl so random | ||
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Stratos.FEAR
Canada706 Posts
lol huh? did i make that sound random? its kinda late and i guess i might not be making sense... | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
On July 15 2009 18:48 Patriot.dlk wrote: Well it's a good thing if the head coach is a really cool guy imo. I found that clip of him and I thought it was fairly impressive Did I watch a different video? | ||
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Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
On July 15 2009 18:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: I thought you said it cause the guy in the video is absolutely useless :D Did I watch a different video? Don't know =) The vid I posted was just him working out with a 48kg kettle weight. I know I will never be able to do that at least  What's your opinion about this Nazgul? Do you think krav maga will be better because it "fits" me better by definition? | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
In terms of being able to defend yourself, if I can share one piece of advice it is to avoid situations that seem dangerous or risky. I used to feel like you are feeling now, like I want to take something so I can defend myself if there ever is any danger. So I took tae kwon do for 4 and a half years. Turns out tae kwon do isn't the BEST for practical self-defense. However, something really important that I took away from tae kwon do was that avoiding potential dangerous situations is really the way to avoid getting in conflicts. Getting into a conflict is always risky, even if you are a 7th degree black belt. The other person might have a weapon, or if something happens to them they can sue you, vice-versa, etc.. I have learned that if a situation seems risky, I usually just avoid it and nothing will happen. I mean it can be as small as deciding to not go to the corner store in the middle of the night or something like that. However, martial arts is utterly amazing and awesome and an incredible experience and journey and all those phrases. It really is great for exercise + confidence + overall attitude towards life, and I recommend it 100% if you have never done anything like that. Definitely go for it | ||
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Batibot
Philippines348 Posts
On July 15 2009 18:00 Patriot.dlk wrote: I do live in a crappy place. When I moved here my friend got me a machete in a move-in present=) I could tell 10 stories at least. So everyone thinks Krav Maga... I think so also but one concern I have is that they might practice to soft? You can always practice harder yourself, you just have to set your pace and intensity of training. | ||
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DeathSpank
United States1029 Posts
1. evade or counter attack 2. kick in balls 3. repeat | ||
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NukemDuke
53 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22427 Posts
p.s. about the video I know I'm never going to lift weights like a bodybuilder either but that doesn't make it impressive. I don't see what could possibly impress you about that video there's probably a million people out there who could do the same. | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On July 15 2009 17:19 Patriot.dlk wrote: If someone jumps me or stalks me I want to be able to outrun that person (so I run tree times a week). lol you seem pretty worried of being attacked =) Anyways, I would go with MMA. You don't wanna kill people, you want to be able to wrestle someone down or punch them hard in the face, not scratch peoples eyes out or bite off their testicles for shock value | ||
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On July 15 2009 18:48 Patriot.dlk wrote: Well it's a good thing if the head coach is a really cool guy imo. I found that clip of him and I thought it was fairly impressive What are you talking about though. You see him playing with a kettle bell in the video. I have no idea how that relates to him being awesome at Krav Maga, being impressive in general or a "really cool guy"? | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
ditto | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
On July 15 2009 23:59 ghermination wrote: i believe that somebody trained in Krav Maga will actually be able to defend themselves in a real life situation, whereas a lot of MMA is just hypothetical. How is it hypothetical though when it's practiced in tournaments all the time. UFC etc lol | ||
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ninjafetus
United States231 Posts
The most important thin isn't the art, it's the school and training methodology. Of course, for self defense, the most important things are situational awareness and a willingness to get out a bad spot if at all possible. You seem to already know this, so you're off to a good start. So, what happens if you can't avoid a conflict? What happens is that you'll fall to your level of training rather than rise to your expectations... so you need to be training the right way. You need to find a school that practices with medium to hard sparring relatively often. It doesn't matter if it's MMA or Krav Maga or even a boxing gym (though I would recommend a school that teaches some grappling over one that doesn't, everything else being equal). Without getting sidetracked into a big discussion of the 'why', the short reason is that you'll only be able to apply things you've practiced if you're used to doing them in a resistant environment. It doesn't matter how 'deadly' your school's techniques are... if you can't safely practice them, you will never get good at doing them against someone who is actively trying to stop you. (I can go into more detail if you're interested) So, which one should you choose? I don't know! Go visit the schools. Watch how they train. Do they spend all their time on compliant drills and kata? That's not what you're looking for. Do they start with compliant drills and then slowly add resistance until they're practicing the technique against someone who's actively trying to counter you? Do they spend half their class with free sparring, so they can try and apply all their techniques against an opponent who's trying to stop them? Then you've probably found a much better school. A lot of "MMA" schools are traditional karate/TKD schools trying to cash in on the recent popularity of MMA. From what I've seen, Krav Maga schools can vary greatly from place to place. If you do check out an MMA school, ask questions about how they train, ask about their qualifications in grappling and striking (do they have a legitimate BJJ rank? Under what lineage? Does the coach have a competition record, or students with one? etc.) If you visit a Krav Maga school, it's a little harder and you'll probably have to decide based on what you see. Ask if you can do trial classes for a week. Watch the advanced classes, too. Don't sign a long term contract until you've given it a shot. | ||
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
"qft Anyway, Krav Maga or similar military systems adapted for civilian defense give the best all around defense. Any martial art that has a sport element will get you good at that, and MMA would be the most all around, but it is specificly designed for one on one unarmed fighting, which is what it will get you good (best) at. Whereas the self defense systems (like krav maga) focus on the all around defense: one on one, weapons, several people etc. Basicly every possible scenario. From what I've seen at my old dojo (which we shared with a krav maga club) their practice is far from soft, but still not killer hard. But that would depend a lot on each individual club. The bigger clubs should have beginner, continuer and advanced classes too, which should increase the difficulity and intensity. But honestly, whatever you practice it's better than nothiing even if it's tai chi. Since you are thinking about MMA or Krav Maga, I'd recommend to try both first. Most clubs have like "try twice for free" or something. | ||
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DBunny
Canada192 Posts
Ditto on martial arts having a positive impact in your life in terms of motivating you to eat healthy and exercise. If you do decide to take up a martial art, the most important thing is to choose one that you enjoy devoting your time to. I highly recommend something that focuses on techniques against resisting opponents, as it is a great feeling when you successfully use them to beat someone who was trying just as hard as you - it validates your time and effort spent training and now you know it actually works. This confidence is what you carry in to a confrontation, knowing that if it came down to it you could probably defend yourself successfully. For this reason I recommend something like mma, boxing, bjj, wrestling, muay thai, or judo. The problem I have with MAs such as krav maga is that it teaches techniques that end fights as quickly as possible, things like eye gouges/groin strikes/trachea crushes. You can't train these techniques against resisting opponents - you can pretend that you are doing them against a practice partner but then your partner won't really be inclined to defend it as hard. If you haven't actually performed these moves on someone, the chances that you can do it for the first time in a high-stress level situation are pretty slim. | ||
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