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First off, let me begin by saying that I live in Atlanta, GA. Every day, I commute to and from the worst parts of the city, going through gang neighborhoods and encountering some of the dregs of society. I recently illegally obtained a .380 Walther PPK/S for personal defense purposes.
My question is this.. Let's assume that I'm caught in possession of this firearm. I know that there are circumstances that would affect this, such as whether or not the weapon in question was on my person or in my automobile, whether or not I was on federal property, etc ad infinitum. Is it a felony or misdemeanor to have it on my person/automobile?
(For the record, I'm 19 years old with no prior convictions, and let's assume that the arrest for possession isn't in commission of another crime.)
Anyone know what a possible penalty for that would be, moreover?
 
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PPK? Are you James Fucking Bond??
Just get it the legal way. When you don't they automatically assume you're gonna do something stupid and rightfully so.
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sorry i cant help you much, i only know about the gun laws here, but i always wondered, how are the gun laws set in the USA ? Does every state set them for them self ? What do you have to do to get a gun licence legally ?
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Hawk, they're reliable guns and quite easily concealed. I'm not entirely sure that you even read the OP at all. Like I said, I'm 19, so it's impossible to legally obtain one. Moreover, what exactly about my OP indicates that I'm planning on doing something stupid? As I said, it's for self defense purposes(are you familiar with the homicide rate in Atlanta?).
Besiger, there are some overarching federal laws, such as a minimum age of 21 for handguns, but most states also have firearm laws as well.
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yo, im from ATL too. sounds like you are in Lakewood or East Point?
I suggest that you alter your routes.
getting involved in a shoot-out with atlanta blacks is not something you want to get involved with. if it comes to the point where you think "wow, i wish i had a pistol" you will probably, in the next instant, already be face-down in a ditch riddled with bullets and missing your sneakers.
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Where in the A do you live?
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Yes, tell the man with the illegal .38 your address.
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On July 08 2009 02:55 Track wrote:
Where in the A do you live?
im from north fulton county, man. heard of alpharetta?
the only time i dealt with the scene you described was going to and from the airport, braves game, or lakewood amphitheater.
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On July 08 2009 03:00 Strayline wrote:
Yes, tell the man with the illegal .38 your address.
It's a .380, not a .38 
Yeah man, I'm familiar with Alpharetta. Ever gone through Little 5 Points at night? Or through College Park? Near GA Tech or GA State at night? Near the Capitol? All of those are areas I go through on a daily basis. There have been MANY instances in which I wished I had a pistol before I got one. It's not the act of getting in a firefight that a pistol is mainly for in my case. It serves as an excellent deterrent. Besides, I'd much rather be in jail for illegal possession of a firearm than be in the ground because I was defenseless.
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I own an HK-SL8. 5.57mm > .38 :D
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it's a .380 not a .38 you losers lol. There is a big difference! Also, try CONCEALING that HK
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On July 08 2009 03:27 Track wrote:it's a .380 not a .38 you losers lol. There is a big difference! Also, try CONCEALING that HK
I'm not a gun guru, but what's the difference? A significant digit? Does the .38 range from .375 to .385?
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On July 08 2009 02:53 Track wrote:
Hawk, they're reliable guns and quite easily concealed. I'm not entirely sure that you even read the OP at all. Like I said, I'm 19, so it's impossible to legally obtain one. Moreover, what exactly about my OP indicates that I'm planning on doing something stupid? As I said, it's for self defense purposes(are you familiar with the homicide rate in Atlanta?).
Besiger, there are some overarching federal laws, such as a minimum age of 21 for handguns, but most states also have firearm laws as well.
It's the gun Bond uses, that's all I said.
The stupid thing, that's what I'm saying law enforcement assumes whn you buy illegally. He doesn't want his tracks to be seen or he has a record and shouldn't have once, etc etc.
ATL is a cesspool, but still, I'm sure without even checking the legal ramifications make it worth the wait for two more years. Plax Burress is likely to get two years at least for his shit, and he's a celebrity. Do you think they care to make a deal for a kid rocking an illegal, unregistered gun? You're fucked if you're caught with it, and probably fucked if you even use it in self defense.
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On July 08 2009 03:17 Track wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 03:00 Strayline wrote:
Yes, tell the man with the illegal .38 your address. It's a .380, not a .38
On July 08 2009 03:27 Track wrote:it's a .380 not a .38 you losers lol. There is a big difference! Also, try CONCEALING that HK
Hmm I have trouble identifying sarcasm. This is a troll right?
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I assume you have fired a handgun and practiced etc with it otherwise you should do so. Then again since you are defending against being attacked on your person you probably won't need marksmanship =)
No insight in laws sry. I stand behind your choice though light recoil small and a nice grip
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On July 08 2009 03:37 2nd1rst wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 03:17 Track wrote:On July 08 2009 03:00 Strayline wrote:
Yes, tell the man with the illegal .38 your address. It's a .380, not a .38 Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 03:27 Track wrote:it's a .380 not a .38 you losers lol. There is a big difference! Also, try CONCEALING that HK Hmm I have trouble identifying sarcasm. This is a troll right?
It's not. The two aren't the same; firearm/ammunition naming methods are just retardedly inconsistent.
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When one says .38, one is typically referring to a .38 Special, which is an off-duty police model. The .380 uses a completely different caliber.
Hawk, I understand what you're saying. The thing is, the weapon is hidden in a hidden compartment in my car, so it will NEVER be found unless it's used(the cops only tear your car up unless you're suspected of narcotics involvement). If it IS ever used, I'll be fucked anyway, but I'd rather be fucked while alive.
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On July 08 2009 02:50 besiger wrote:
sorry i cant help you much, i only know about the gun laws here, but i always wondered, how are the gun laws set in the USA ? Does every state set them for them self ? What do you have to do to get a gun licence legally ?
You probably have to be 21 to have a pistol
Also if you keep it in the glove box, and as long as they don't search your car (police can't unless you say they can or they see drugs on the floor of your car... ) your golden
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Wouldn't having it in a hidden compartment defeat the whole purpose lol
Still, big gamble. Just be like rpf and roll around with a shiv
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imo just get a rifle or 20 gauge and keep it under the front seat of your car. I don't know the legal age for buying a long gun in the US but i know its below 21.
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Why don't you go ahead and apply for a CHL? If you state you have no type of felonies on ur record, then you should be fine on qualifying for a CHL. Why would u want to throw away your clean record just to possess a firearm without it being registered and you neglecting to provide a CHL? If you are busted with it in any manner, I am sure you would be looking forward to paying lots of court fees along with probation tacked on and that's not knowing if any jail time is required. Also a 1st-2nd degree felon isn't pretty on ur record when ur looking for a job, I have a 3rd degree felony and its not fun.
Edit: Here in Texas you need to be at least 21 years of age to apply for a CHL or you can be 18+ only under certain conditions like being enrolled in the military.
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Im not expert on this, but surely if you pull a gun, the chances of someone shooting you is going to increase by a considerable amount. Combine that with the fact that youll be arrested if the cops catch you with the gun, and I would say that the having that gun is not a good idea.
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On July 08 2009 04:18 Fen wrote:
Im not expert on this, but surely if you pull a gun, the chances of someone shooting you is going to increase by a considerable amount. Combine that with the fact that youll be arrested if the cops catch you with the gun, and I would say that the having that gun is not a good idea.
Lol, we can only hope that the OP is smart enough to only pull the gun out if he is being mugged by someone without a gun.
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On July 08 2009 04:18 Fen wrote:
Im not expert on this, but surely if you pull a gun, the chances of someone shooting you is going to increase by a considerable amount. Combine that with the fact that youll be arrested if the cops catch you with the gun, and I would say that the having that gun is not a good idea.
Yeah, but then again you might be able to survive situations where you could be mugged, assaulted, or even raped
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On July 08 2009 04:40 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 04:18 Fen wrote:
Im not expert on this, but surely if you pull a gun, the chances of someone shooting you is going to increase by a considerable amount. Combine that with the fact that youll be arrested if the cops catch you with the gun, and I would say that the having that gun is not a good idea. Yeah, but then again you might be able to survive situations where you could be mugged, assaulted, or even raped
Well generally you do survive being mugged, assaulted and raped. Its only when you get murdered that you don't survive
Pulling out a gun is a very agressive move. Aggression is often met with more aggression. By pulling a gun, you've just bumped the severity of the situation up by a LOT.
If we use an example of what most of us would be more familiar with, such as some asshole getting angry at you in a bar. If you want to avoid conflict, what is the best way to do so? Back off and try and seem as non-threatening as possible or to put your arms up and get into a fighting stance, hoping that he will back down?
While there are exceptions, aggression is usually met with more aggression. If you pull a gun on someone and they are also armed, its very likely youll get stuck in a position where you'll have to shoot or be shot. The action of pulling out your gun could mean someones going to take a bullet whereas not pulling the gun, there is a relatively low chance that either of you will be shot.
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Yeah, Hawk, but the compartment is located directly under the steering column, making it very accessible while being very innocuous to the casual observer.
Also, yeah, having a gun CAN make your risks go up, but these can be nullified if used in the correct way.
Kennelie, yeah, I'm 19. Which is WHY I'm carrying illegally, because it's impossible for me to get a legal carry license.
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On July 08 2009 03:48 Track wrote:
When one says .38, one is typically referring to a .38 Special, which is an off-duty police model. The .380 uses a completely different caliber.
i thought the number was refering to a mathematical measurement
aren't those 2 numbers the same?
*does research*
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061117205609AAYwBWl
wow, that's retarded
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Well your fucked in every way if you are busted with it until u r issued a CHL. Look up your state's website concerning the issue would have answered your question. Gun Crime leads to Hard Time apparently, and your doing enough illegal action concealing a firearm with no CHL.
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You better leave that gun at home. Any chance you get to use it will land you in jail with a felony charge.
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United States3824 Posts
Found it in your Georgia Revised Code:
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 11. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC ORDER AND SAFETY
ARTICLE 4. DANGEROUS INSTRUMENTALITIES AND PRACTICES
PART 2. POSSESSION OF DANGEROUS WEAPONS
O.C.G.A. § 16-11-123 (2008)
§ 16-11-123. Unlawful possession of firearms or weapons
A person commits the offense of unlawful possession of firearms or weapons when he or she knowingly has in his or her possession any sawed-off shotgun, sawed-off rifle, machine gun, dangerous weapon, or silencer, and, upon conviction thereof, he or she shall be punished by imprisonment for a period of five years.
HISTORY: Ga. L. 1968, p. 983, § 3; Ga. L. 2000, p. 1630, § 2.
Short Answer: Five years. I'm pretty sure you fall into this category because the weapon is unlawfully obtained.
Source:http://www.lexis-nexis.com/hottopics/gacode/default.asp
Enjoy.
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United States3824 Posts
PS
Pwned all of your answers.
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Question:
Why are you out in those areas at night?
You said you commute through those areas....During the day, and until relatively early evening there are cops out in said areas. You should only ever need a gun if you are out by yourself at night. I can't think of any reason you would have to carry a gun at 19 just cuz you commute through bad parts of Atlanta.
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