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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 20:11:42
April 12 2009 20:04 GMT
#1
I just started playing ICCup games last season and went 1-11 last season. This season I've been doing a little better, haven't dropped below 1000 points yet which was my aim. So far I'm 3-5 (yes I don't play enough games, but I don't have a lot of time to.)

Anyway I decided to make this blog because of my last game. It was the craziest game I've ever played. Yes it was two 70apm D noobs, but for me it seemed like I was doing 2000 things at once.

http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=10562

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We both start off pretty standard. I decide to place a hidden expo on the spur of the moment. I then get my first 6 lings trapped and killed. He plays horribly, and my spire finishes before he even starts on his lair. Unfortunately because I lost my initial lings, when he comes in with ~10 of them I panic, and build 6 lings with my saved larvae instead of mutas. He ends up in my base with 4 lings and his scouting drone, which he offensive sunkens with. I fight off the lings with a muta that I finally build, but his sunken kills my spire before I can kill it. In the meanwhile he's discovered my hidden expo, and he sunkens that as well. I don't notice >.<
He kills off most of the drones at my expo before I notice it and move them out of range. More lings flood into my base. My pool is killed, and I cancel the new spire I'm building, and build it in my expo instead. At this point I have 1 drone mining at my expo, and 1 in my main about to die.
However, I've sent the 3 mutas I built before my first spire died to his base, and kill of most of his main. (I didn't even notice this, I a-moved them there and when I looked at them later he had no drones there. He builds 3 spores at his nat to ward of the mutas. Long story short, I mass lings and send them in constantly and eventually overwhelm him. Sad thing is if he had any sort of macro he would have won no problem. So yeah, really close game, even if it was low skilled. I really enjoyed it, and was sweating for the entirity. Also if anyone can give some criticism I'd appreciate it as ZvZ is by far my worst MU.


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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 12 2009 20:25 GMT
#2
how can you not macro in zvz? i mean its one of 4 options

5sz 5sd 5sm 5ss?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
April 12 2009 20:33 GMT
#3
On April 13 2009 05:25 arb wrote:
how can you not macro in zvz? i mean its one of 4 options

5sz 5sd 5sm 5ss?

you forgot 5so

On another note, am I the only one who does 5szz 5sdd 5smm etc where i press the unit hotkey twice because the first one usually doesn't register?
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
April 12 2009 20:37 GMT
#4
On April 13 2009 05:33 WindCalibur wrote:
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On April 13 2009 05:25 arb wrote:
how can you not macro in zvz? i mean its one of 4 options

5sz 5sd 5sm 5ss?

you forgot 5so

On another note, am I the only one who does 5szz 5sdd 5smm etc where i press the unit hotkey twice because the first one usually doesn't register?

I have the exact same problem! It seems like if you do 5sz or whatnot at maximal speed the larvae will not morph. I find I either have to go 5szzzzzz until I'm sure the morphing has begun or I need to have more of a methodic cadence to my keypresses. Are we doing something wrong somehow or is that just the way the engine works?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
April 12 2009 20:48 GMT
#5
youre probably pressing it too fast, before the game has time to switch units or something
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 12 2009 21:26 GMT
#6
I believe it only selects the larvae when you release s. So if you press z while you press s then it won't register.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-12 22:06:02
April 12 2009 22:03 GMT
#7
I was confused because I have a blog with almost the same name. O_o

The sz thing could just be because of latency, unless it happens on lan lat too, then you're probably pressing too fast. Because if you hold s and press a key it still registers (try it out).
No I'm never serious.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
April 12 2009 23:29 GMT
#8
On April 13 2009 06:26 h3r1n6 wrote:
I believe it only selects the larvae when you release s. So if you press z while you press s then it won't register.

This is usually the problem. Make it a point to release S as fast as possible.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
April 13 2009 11:29 GMT
#9
On April 13 2009 08:29 sixghost wrote:
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On April 13 2009 06:26 h3r1n6 wrote:
I believe it only selects the larvae when you release s. So if you press z while you press s then it won't register.

This is usually the problem. Make it a point to release S as fast as possible.


I think its more of a latency problem, because it never happens to me on LAN games, just b.net and iccup.
ibutoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Australia341 Posts
April 13 2009 11:37 GMT
#10
I know what it's like not having the time to mass game but good to hear you had a fun game.
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