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It was dnd 3rd edition. There was a topic about the co creator dying. But I wanted to make this topic a day ago.
My friends and my brother and his wife all wanted to play this game for a while now. Since we change games every so often, get tired of them or just don't like them.
We decided, hey Dnd 3rd edition. Its simple enough, but fairly complex that we can actually be challenged, and we have a semi core group that can play all the time. So hey, pretty okay choice.
Mitchell Is our DM, dungeon master, he narrates the game.
Well, I'll just talk about our characters. Maybe it will inspire you guys to play on your own, or just out of amusement. Either way, I don't really care, but interesting stories, or even scary hilarious stories will be appreciated.
My brothers wife Kat chose to be a paladin. She rolled very well, and had only one negative attribute, I think it was intelligence. So she was like an 18 year old charismatic paladin with 17 strength. The picture My brother drew of her wasn't exactly close to how the stats looked, but it was really good anyhow. Basically a standard anime chick in like some angel looking armor, yeah he's very talented.
I decided to be completely different, but choose something I sort of do in my own life. I chose a BARD. Thats right, the effin bard. The character NOBODY wants to be. The guy who you remember from final fantasy 4 was it? with cecil and kain and junk, there was that bard character who was totally useless, and had a lame story, yeah bards were ruined for everyone then. I wanted to choose a bard to make the adventure different, and because I kinda always wanted to be one, and figure if my life was DND, then I would be a bard.
But lets look at Bards differently. I didn't choose some random race like half orc. I went Human. Second, Bards are Jack of All Trades. They are Skilled in all but Master of None. So I could fufill the role of anything, I could adventure out on my own, because I can do everything. Third, they are the entertainment of back then. They didn't have tv's or video games. So storytellers and Guitarists just shredding while your fighters are tearin up goblins in the mountainous hills. That's pretty awesome.
So really, even though they are evened out and not shining anywhere, they can preform like the wind, which may enchant more people than you can even think of. You might be so good at talking to people that you get plenty of free stuff. You can encourage bar fights. You can write stories which lighten up the mood, you can twist the stories to make your party seem much more than it already is. Basically the bard is the perfect "role playing" class. You actually get to do what the whole genre is about. Sure a fighter can prepare an onslaught, and be fierce, but so could a Bard. Yet the charm is different.
I rolled really well, I had an 18 in charisma and a 17 in constitution(I joked that my guy was gonna be super healthy, and so I picked that stat there). The lowest stat was a 10 in strength. Which wasn't a big deal to me, even though I did alot of fighting the first adventure.
I had good magic at the start, I had daze which stuns an enemy for a round and some other skills which helped decided how we would fight.
I named my Bard Johann Amadeus Brahms..(J.A.B) Just a little reference to the Bach generation. Anyways, I made my guy look like Ritchie Blackmore from Deep Purple. A young Ritchie. Long Black Hair, Black Eyes. Yeah, here he is.
Peter, my brother Mitchells best friend. He is the definition of a complete nerd his whole life, he has every rpg known to man and every edition, his own gaming group with intense personalities, no car license.(our group isn't serious, we just do it for fun, and we aren't even a group, we just play because we want to) Anyways, he is a rather loud annoying individual, basically you will know you won't like him the first 10 seconds he even speaks. He challenges everyone at everything, and he criticizes everyone, and he makes foul jokes which have no timing, and he tries too hard. Basically everything he says, he tries to add the word penis or something and go on about it to some imaginary land in his brain to make it funny.
Anyways, he chooses a Wizard and goes on about how many cool things he WILL be able to do and neglects how badly they suck at level one. He customizes his equipment to have a 10 foot pole and a bunch of paper and ink. He says he wont do anything for all the adventures and he will just write scrolls all day. Kinda boring if you ask me. He was basically saying he knew so much more than us. But Peter has NO tact, it doesn't matter what character he will be, he is gonna get himself hurt, and probably dead in the adventure. We will get to that in a second.
My friend Aaron showed up later, Aaron is a somewhat of a quiet guy, his only friends in the entire world are me and my brothers. I don't know why that is. But we've known each other as long as we can remember. Basically he comes off as strong too, but he's actually a good guy, and he talks much much less then peter. His girlfriend didn't want to play, which was okay, she likes electronic gaming. I mean so do we, but this is kinda a new thing for us, so we want to play this.
Anyways Aaron chose a Fighter. Now this is an interesting choice. Aaron in his whole life of gaming. He has ALWAYS been the healer, or whitemage, magician, whatever! He was like, I'm just gonna be the generic fighter since we don't have one. I mean we had a paladin, but we needed a guy who could actually use his feats. He had power strike and Cleave as his feats. Now for those who don't know what these are.
They are special attacks where if you kill the guy you attacked, you get another free attack on the next guy. So he just rushes in the big crowd and just hacks away.
Also one of his items was an iron pot....for cooking. He insists we are gonna be using it. haha.
Now for the adventure. This was our first one, we didn't want to have an introduction, we are just Kicking in the door and just fighting. Just to get out of level one, because level one is boring.
Right off the bat peter starts pining in about whos doing what, whos mapping and whos keeping records. Hes played alot I decided I would do mapping, and kat did record keeping. So anyways, I didnt draw the entrance because it was just a generic entrance and peter calls me an Ass. And he starts talking about how he is gonna use his 10 foot pole to look for traps. My brother was having a weird stare because he doesn't really do traps in his adventures.
So we found a paper which says people died here basically and then we start the fight in the next room. Peter shoots his arrow, misses. And then it was my turn, I run in to the nearest goblin and slash him for ZERO damage. Peter yells before I even strike, that we are gonna get him killed, because we are just rushing in, there was only like 4 goblins and 1 orc. Easy peasy. So I say shut up and I attack anyways. So then for some reason we were unclear about attacks of opportunity rules and spell rules, so mitch and peter argue for a while about it. And peter just makes everyone uncomfortable
a goblin rushes to peter and attacks him, and basically he has two hitpoints left and he is just whining. We stop the game after some battle. Kat has to feed her baby and then Mitch goes up with her upstairs, they come down after an hour, and then mitch takes peter home.
We play the game without peter, We didn't tell him that we were gonna continue playing. And we go to aarons house and finish the dungeon killing about 17 orcs and this level 7 ogre guy with the help of 2 mages that were captured by the orcs. The adventure ended about midnight, it took 2 hours away from peter to play it out, and we ended up scoring like 2500 xp each, going close to level 3.
Didn't feel like talking about every description since it took long enough to talk about the characters.
So yeah, also we found some potions that were mysterious and I drank it without seeking for ispection so I gained all my health back. Haha, "Down the hatch" I suppose.
Anyways, If you read all of this, you probably have played your own adventures or you want to bash my iccup ettiquette.
So what have it? Give me a tip to build my bard or talk about your adventures.
  
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I played a little a few years ago.
I soooo feel you about that Peter guy. I played some enjoyable games but I also played with uber-nerdy friends of friends, that I instantly hated.
Games are so annoying when you play with people who spend their lives studying rulebooks, bitch about rules, bitch about DM decisions, make geeky jokes about how X ability is so LOL at N level because of the stack with half-elf racial trait...
Bleh... I just made myself angry thinking about the countless hours I lost listening to that kind of tools.
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iirc, if your bard has high enough charisma he can use spell scrolls up to level 9, so yeah you did good not skimping on that attribute
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I've only ever played the computer games based off of DND (Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, NWN, etc), but I always had fun with them. My brothers and cousins and I played a party of five together all the way through the first Icewind Dale, but couldn't beat the last boss. Like your friend Aaron, I always play the paladin  .
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I love bards in NWN, in NWN2 I can't get used to them :/
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Well actually, aaron always chooses whitemages. Kat was the paladin.
I played a paladin once, he kicked a ton of trash. Got to like level 5 or something then stopped playing for years.
Yeah I knew charisma is super important for bards, I didn't know they were capable of the strongest magic. I suppose it works though. Depends on what you focus on?
Oh heck yeah, Baldur's gate was awesome. Spent hours listening to the voices and played around making characters with the absolute best beginning stats. Aarons dad would always bring a pizza or something. good times. In fact, it still happens.
I'm actually writing little tunes on my acoustic that sound somewhere around that era just to spice it up a bit, maybe get a few 100 bonus xp. It will be funny. We are all comfortable around each other so its not like going into a weird place and being all headstrong.
We have a pretty good group at least for three people, we have a paladin a bard and a fighter. And a sorcerer NPC.
I guess the problem with role playing in a game with peter, he tries to keep the center of attention on him and he slows the game way too much by finding out every little detail in every room.
Like all I need to know is "can I hit the guy?" "...uh sure." älright, slashing him" Kinda boring, but I sometimes mix it up and try to grapple when it actually isnt effective. I just like to make the scenery exciting, but I want it to go quickly though.
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Yeah dnd is pretty fun. Ive been playing for about 7 years now
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The bards are for buffing fighters :D
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Canada9720 Posts
if you're all beginners except for peter, you might want to try 4th edition. the rules are a little simplified, and adjustments were made to the classes to make them more "combat equal".
3rd is great too (and with some home-made changes, i prefer it to 4th ed), but 4th ed is also a lot of fun.
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On April 11 2009 02:41 CTStalker wrote:
if you're all beginners except for peter, you might want to try 4th edition. the rules are a little simplified, and adjustments were made to the classes to make them more "combat equal".
3rd is great too (and with some home-made changes, i prefer it to 4th ed), but 4th ed is also a lot of fun.
On the one hand, as a SC player/fan I believe balance is good. But already in third they made such a ridiculous effort to balance the classes as compared with 2nd that I think any more balance is just preposterous. Third isn't that unbalanced, not like Level 1 Fighter > Level 1 Wizard, Level 25 Fighter <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Level 25 Wizard in 2nd.
I've never played fourth but from what I hear it's so simplified it's retarded, although I hear the system of combat/matrices has been improved to be less horrific. However, reports may be exaggerated, and the mechanics of the game are no more important than other aspects of it.
Edit: My contention is that the classes should be different and serve different roles. A party of 5 rogues should NOT be viable unless it's some weird specific campaign, not that they shouldn't all be viable in all situations.
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Yeah, I heard 4th was more MMO-ified Like you have to be certain levels to use certain things, which I don't like.
I also heard they took out the bard..which is a shame, its the best class!
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dnd is great but u need to be royalty or rich it can take way toooooo much time out of your life
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On April 11 2009 03:35 gedanbarai wrote:
dnd is great but u need to be royalty or rich it can take way toooooo much time out of your life
I bet there aren't many people who play DND 12 hours a day, seven days a week though ; o.
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United States47024 Posts
On April 11 2009 02:41 CTStalker wrote:
if you're all beginners except for peter, you might want to try 4th edition. the rules are a little simplified, and adjustments were made to the classes to make them more "combat equal".
3rd is great too (and with some home-made changes, i prefer it to 4th ed), but 4th ed is also a lot of fun.
My biggest quip with 4th edition is the magic system. The problem is that it separate combat magic and noncombat magic, making noncombat magic most into "rituals" (e.g. things like Teleport, Scrying and Scrying become "rituals"). Ritual scrolls cost money, and known rituals have non-negligible component costs. A wizard is then FORCED to know combat spells (seeing as the non-ritual spells are almost all combat spells, and you have to learn non-ritual spells). Why should my mage have to know combat spells? Some of my most fun characters were with wizards that didn't know any spells for combat, and focused on utility and tricks.
On April 11 2009 03:40 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2009 03:35 gedanbarai wrote:
dnd is great but u need to be royalty or rich it can take way toooooo much time out of your life I bet there aren't many people who play DND 12 hours a day, seven days a week though ; o.
This means that you have to be ready for a slow-moving game, though, as most normal groups don't get a chance to meet more then 4 hours a week.
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My favorite table RPG is starwars D6 oldschool. You can make characters in 5 minutes and go through an adventure in like an hour. Its really really simple and easy. And I've played those since I was like 10 or 8.
Though it wasnt so bad when we were playing dnd, it just takes a while to get it rolling. But it took about 2 hours to just play through this dungeon. Which was like 10 rooms or so. About 30 bad guys.
We might not have too many adventures though because Im going on my mission soon. But hey, might as well play as much as we can.
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It's DnD! Warriors that terrify... It's DnD! Virgins till the day weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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Heh, well funny thing is my brother who is DMing is married and his wife is the paladin.
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tips for DnD
1. open Control Panel
2. uninstall DnD
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Bards make really nice support/noncombat characters. When I've used them, I generally picked up healing spells (useful for your character too considering the party composition), lots of "talking" skills (bluff/sense motive/intimidate etc), and the leadership feat. Finally, a musical instrument really helps. I recommend the natural horn. In combat, you wind up making everyone else stronger/keeping them alive. Outside of combat, you wind up taking the lead.
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I played once like ten years ago when I was in 4th grade. It was ridiculous...it took like two hours to get everything set up, and the first battle took like a half hour. We got bored and went back to playing N64...lol.
It's just too like...uninteresting to me. The game itself is too complicated, and the stigma surrounding just completely turns me off. :X
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I played DnD back in high school, it was really fun because the guy who was our DM was very committed and was a long time player. He had elaborate stories and campaigns that went well together. I think our 1st campaign was we started out in a town where they were mustering troops for a big war and our little band gets caught up in it and we eventually become kind of this elite group sent on the hard missions (my fav was to capture this wizard in this fortress/school for magic users on the opposite side). I always liked to played wizard myself but yea they are sooo weak early on but later on the DM said I could prolly take on the entire group myself heh. Our group makeup was 2 rangers a monk a cleric a barbarian wizard and sometimes we had a thief and a druid.but they weren't there for most of it.
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I've never played D&D (but a different fantasy P&P RPG shortly, "The Dark Eye" which is very popular in Germany).
But I love D&D-based computer RPGs.
Anyway, just wanted to say something about people who take the rules way too seriously. D&D 3rd edition is probably the most complex edition, and therefore a paradise for rule freaks.
In D&D 4th edition, things have been simplified a lot in order to put the fun in the foreground again, and the rules in the background. You might want to check into that if your friend annoys you too much. 
Many gamers also have "house rules" which differ slightly from the original rules. If the majority of you doesn't like something, just handle it differently...
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Its not that hes a rule freak. He just is effin annoying, and wants to be the center of attention. And he isn't my friend, but he is my brothers. So its just something I have to deal with.
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United States47024 Posts
On April 11 2009 18:10 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Anyway, just wanted to say something about people who take the rules way too seriously. D&D 3rd edition is probably the most complex edition, and therefore a paradise for rule freaks.
How much the rules comes into play is much more dependent on the campaign style than on the system being used. If the campaign keeps resorting to hack and slash combat or a lot of skill checks, the game will be rules-centric regardless of the system, because going back to the rules is just going to happen to keep the game going. The solution really isn't to change the rules, but to figure out a style thats more appropriate to what you want. For example, two of the more fun campaigns I've been a part of involved solving murder-mysteries and acting as a band of thugs for a politician.
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