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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-05 21:10:56
April 05 2009 18:58 GMT
#1
Here is my predictions for upcoming Round 4 of Shinhan Proleague:

+ Show Spoiler [Rank 12] +
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Lineup:
(P)DaezanG (Captain)
(P)Reach
(P)Anytime
(T)Casy
(T)ClouD
(T)XellOs
(Z)OversKy
(Z)YellOw
(Z)GoRush

Its obvious that Air Force ACE is going to be bottom rank. They added "new" player to their roster, (T)XellOs. Having 2 good terrans and 2 good protoss players aren't good enough when they are lacking powerful zergs. So justified 12 place.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 11] +
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Lineup:
(P)HoOny (Captain)
(P)Pure
(P)Rock
(T)NaDa
(T)Mind
(T)BaBy
(Z)keke
(Z)RorO
(Z)Shine[kaL]

Little bit surprising but yes WeMade FOX as rank 11. Teams roster is not good enough to compete other teams unless their rookie players improves dramatically, especially protoss players. They have top notch terrans but lack of protoss players hurts a lot and their zergs needs more experience to be par with rest of top team zergs. I hope they prove me wrong in the future.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 10] +
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Lineup:
(Z)Shark (Captain)
(P)Pusan
(P)Jaehoon
(P)han
(P)Air
(T)910
(T)koala
(T)Sea
(T)Light
(Z)Saint
(Z)HyuN
(Z)Peace

MBCGame HERO only at tenth place? Yes I am serious. They have very moody terrans, they do either good or bad. If (T)Sea and (T)Light perform well, they might get 9th spot but that needs their protoss players to shape up. So if (P)Pusan gets those important kills... Anyways yet again weak point of the team is zergs. It seems good recipe to get top ranks is to have super good zerg or two.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 9] +
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Lineup:
(P)Tester (Captain)
(P)SangHo
(P)GosI[Flying]
(T)Fancy
(T)Really
(T)UpMaGiC
(T)Suny
(T)PuMa
(Z)Haran
(Z)Action
(Z)hyvaa

Woot eSTRO at 9th place? They did poorly in Winners league but performed much better in Round 2. It seems like old format suits them much better. Though having only 1 player representing whole team at MSL tournament isn't bragging right but at least they have more time to practice Proleague. Two strong terrans backed up with (Z)hyvaa and new recruit (Z)Haran could be the thing that team needs to be winning team. Add (P)Tester and we have decent team to fight for crucial wins.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 8] +
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Lineup:
(T)GanZi (Captain)
(P)free
(P)MasIo
(P)GuemChi
(Z)Child
(Z)ZerO
(Z)GGPlay
(T)Special
(T)MVP
(T)PianO

I am suprised how Woongjin Stars did so well in Winners league but its back to old system and I think they will drop more games like they did Round 2. So they have (P)free and (Z)ZerO to get some possible wins but they need one of the terrans to push through. Is it (T)PianO? I hope he will perform well as he did in Winners league format. They need prove me wrong because I like their zergs alot <3


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 7] +
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Lineup:
(T)Justin (Captain)
(P)Chalrenge
(P)HakSoo
(P)herb
(P)Tazza
(P)Horang2
(T)go.go
(T)Leta
(Z)YellOw[ArnC]
(Z)HoGiL
(Z)type-b
(Z)Clay

Okay OnGameNet SPARKYZ could have been 6th place too but they just miss something that puts them at that place. They have (T)go.go and (T)Leta with always hungry (Z)YellOw[ArnC] to get wins. Problem for this team is protoss players, too much is too much. Definetly they need to reduce them to 2 or 3 max but having 5 is just bad. If Leta somehow goes to slump then they are gone for bottom of ranks. But still l see their rank going ±1 end of Round 4 which isn't bad overall.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 6] +
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Lineup:
(Z)ZergBong (Captain)
(P)Tempest
(P)Violet
(T)Flash
(T)SaiR
(T)Shine
(T)fOrGG
(T)Barracks
(Z)Luxury
(Z)815
(Z)FireFist
(Z)HoeJJa

KTF has been making some trades between few teams and getting new terrans to help (T)Flash from overplaying. Team has weak protoss players but only 2 so at least if one of them improves even slightly they might get more wins than OGN protoss players. Their strength are strong terrans and well performing zergs. Little bit luck with protoss players, they might get to top3 but I am realistic so 6th place is good for now.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 5] +
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Lineup:
(P)TT (Captain)
(P)Stork
(P)JangBi
(P)yoOn
(T)firebathero
(T)FrOzean
(T)Miracle
(T)Favian
(Z)oDin
(Z)Juni
(Z)great
(Z)Chavi

Hard spot to choose but Samsung KHAN is my 5th place choice. They have two good protoss players which is almost guaranteed to give 2 wins. They just need one of the zergs step up and they win match right there. Their terrans aren't what they used to be Round 2 when Winners league was running and I think they will stay like that. So "only" 5th place for now.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 4] +
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Lineup:
(T)iloveoov
(P)Doctor.K (Captain)
(P)Bisu
(P)BeSt
(P)MuJuK
(T)fantasy
(T)Midas
(T)Canata
(T)BoxeR
(Z)Hyuk
(Z)Thezerg

SK Telecom T1 going for 4th place. They have (T)fantasy (very moody terran though) and (P)Bisu getting wins. (P)BeSt shape is always little mystery, he can get a lot of wins. Who knows maybe its his time to shine in Round 4. Zergs... oh zergs, they should definetly do something to fix their zerg lineup, if only they had one S-class zerg but they don't...


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 3] +
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Lineup:
(T)Dongrae (Captain)
(P)Spear
(P)PerfectMan
(P)BackHo
(P)Young
(T)HiyA
(T)Lomo
(Z)Jaedong
(Z)ToSky
(Z)ggaemo
(Z)Killer
(Z)NeeL

Hwaseung Oz 3rd, solid or not? They lost one of their terrans to KTF but they still have (T)HiyA to get terran wins. Obviously zerg lineup doesn't even need to be discussed, its pretty solid. Only worry is how are their protoss players doing. Is (P)BackHo back to his shape? If he is then they can do pretty well. Only problem I see is solid 4th player, but I think coach has something on his mind to fix that.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 2] +
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Lineup:
(Z)JulyZerg (Captain)
(P)Kal
(P)SoO
(P)Shuttle
(T)Notice
(T)Last
(T)Bogus
(T)Hwasin
(T)Hery
(Z)Modesty
(Z)Calm
(Z)by.hero

STX definetly deserves 2nd place. They have good zergs, good protoss and good terran. All that you need to get to win Shinhan Proleague. Only weakness if they somehow mess up lineups and playing their players weak matchups too often is one recipe to loss. Even getting past CJ might be possible.


+ Show Spoiler [Rank 1] +
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Lineup:
(T)Iris (Captain)
(P)Much
(P)Nbs
(P)Movie
(T)Memory
(T)sKyHigh
(Z)sAviOr
(Z)Hydra
(Z)EffOrt
(Z)Orion
(Z)Devil
(Z)Kwanro

I wanted to pick STX as first but choosed CJ instead. Why? well only because Skyhigh is fullfilling his duties and giving those wins. Zergs doing what they can do best, winning games. Only thing I am worried is protoss players, but if (P)Much or (P)Movie keeps their level I trust this team to perform very well.


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OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
April 05 2009 19:23 GMT
#2
YellOw is going to upset your prediction.
That being said, ACE will now have 5 players that have potential of owning shit up.

Compare that to WeMade FOX's roster:
They have 2 players that will definitely put up results (Nada, Mind) and like 3 players that are like 50/50 (Rock Baby and Shine)

No way ACE is behind WeMade FOX IMO.
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Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
April 05 2009 20:34 GMT
#3
MBC always does well in the standard PL format. Saint is a ZvP sniper, Shark is a ZvZ sniper, HyuN did insanely well in MSL Offlines beating Mind so we might see him some, Pusan is kind of iffy at the moment after his MSL Offline showing, Light/Sea are probably going to do well especially since Light has kind of broken out of his old swingy temperament, han did ok in the MSL Offlines and he's very good PvZ so he may get some play time.

MBC's team doesn't look that strong on paper but when it comes down to it they get the wins (except last round t.t). I honestly expect them to finish middle of the pack if not better.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 05 2009 21:11 GMT
#4
Samsung Khan is just gonna continue slumping.

ACE is much stronger than you give them credit for.

How will Oz get third if they can only play Jaedong 2/5 max? =D
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 05 2009 21:17 GMT
#5
On April 06 2009 06:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Samsung Khan is just gonna continue slumping.

ACE is much stronger than you give them credit for.

How will Oz get third if they can only play Jaedong 2/5 max? =D


They have HiyA and Backho (or other protoss). Just need Jaedong to win 1 game and terran or protoss to get one win. Ace goes to jaedong again :D
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 05 2009 21:36 GMT
#6
I don't think OZ will do that well in R4.

They really only have JD, given the format, he will *very* likely get sniped in the ACE game. OZ needs one more player to be in top 3.

I don't think CJ will do that well either. Their players are good, but not amazing. Everyone of their dependable players can easily drop a game to an S-class player.

Provided that Bisu/Flash don't slump, I think T1 and KTF will have the best chance of placing first. Followed by STX (this depends on Hero's performance actually), Samsung and then OZ.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
April 05 2009 21:51 GMT
#7
with the SKT-format of the PL back I have 0 doubts who will be first after round 4
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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 05 2009 22:11 GMT
#8
plz show your ranking list to other users here, I am very curious. It can be short, no need to be long as I have.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
April 06 2009 07:57 GMT
#9
Remember how good Samsung was doing just before winner's league, and now we're returning to that same format.

No sending out FBH only for him to be automatically faced with a protoss opponent right away. This could be a good time for him to come out of his slump.

Definitely would expect Khan in top 3 imo. Don't want to think for detailed rankings though.
panda_inc
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia170 Posts
April 09 2009 15:47 GMT
#10
i pretty much agree. CJ will be number 1 if their young trio fulfills their potential and STX is number 2 if by.hero steps up to become the S-class ace their need.

Though I would put KTF 4th infront of T1 and Khan, after all they got the best terran lineup in the league and very solid zergs. T1 and Khan have the same zerg deficiency though T1's tosses and terrans are just slightly stronger than Khan's overall.

Lastly MBC isn't that bad.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
April 09 2009 15:53 GMT
#11
Oversky is a great Zerg and a snipe, just sucks when he doesnt have practice with "more" solid players.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
April 09 2009 16:16 GMT
#12
On April 06 2009 06:36 Cambium wrote:
I don't think OZ will do that well in R4.

They really only have JD, given the format, he will *very* likely get sniped in the ACE game. OZ needs one more player to be in top 3.

I don't think CJ will do that well either. Their players are good, but not amazing. Everyone of their dependable players can easily drop a game to an S-class player.

Provided that Bisu/Flash don't slump, I think T1 and KTF will have the best chance of placing first. Followed by STX (this depends on Hero's performance actually), Samsung and then OZ.

What's the difference between SKT and Oz?
Jaedong
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 09 2009 17:26 GMT
#13
On April 10 2009 00:47 panda_inc wrote:
i pretty much agree. CJ will be number 1 if their young trio fulfills their potential and STX is number 2 if by.hero steps up to become the S-class ace their need.

Though I would put KTF 4th infront of T1 and Khan, after all they got the best terran lineup in the league and very solid zergs. T1 and Khan have the same zerg deficiency though T1's tosses and terrans are just slightly stronger than Khan's overall.

Lastly MBC isn't that bad.


Khan has way better zergs than SKT1 has. Main reason why SKT1 is that low @ ranking is weak zergs and you have to play zergs Round 4.
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
April 09 2009 21:52 GMT
#14
On April 06 2009 06:36 Cambium wrote:
They really only have JD, given the format, he will *very* likely get sniped in the ACE game.

If only KTF had known about how easy it is to snipe Jaedong before the Winner's League Semifinal match...
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
April 09 2009 22:25 GMT
#15
I think you are overrating both STX and CJ. Also KTF with new recruits could be dangerous.
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