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Lately at UW Oshkosh, i have had an interesting turn of events. I recently decided to try and keep the stress out of my life be just not caring about women. The funny thing is- as soon as i don't care, the women start rolling in. One girl (we will call her Valentine) I met while relaxing at a friends house. Now i had never met Valentine before but i guess that i had really made an impression on her becuase the DAY after i met her, her friends all called me and told me that she really enjoyed me.
They all said that she would really like to get to know me. So i decided that i would try and see where this would go. SO the next day i noticed on my facebook that she had already had friend requested me. So all was good, or so i had thought. Valentine was very very beautiful. She had long curly hair and brown eyes. She was also quite charming.
You see i went out to coffee with her the next week, and had a good time. She came from a well off to do family, and seemed as an all around nice person. I thought that everything was going well. We had the chance to meet up some time and get to know each other a bit more. So after a week or two of us doing the bullshit bullshit and all of that i decide that she thinks that i am not that much of a creep, and ask her out on a date.
So while we are relaxing in my dorm room i pop the question to her. I ask if she would like to go out with me.
* I thought that i had a great date planned out for her. She really enjoys working out and doing sporty stuff. So i thought that bringing her cross country skiing with me and then going to dinner at a nice sushi place. Sounds nice right? well no. It wasn't. Screw me. I can do nothing right. I can't play SC and i defiantly can't make dates*
So moving forward:
So the day comes up and she calls me and tells me that she is very exited in going on our date. I pick her up and then we drive to my place, grab the ski equipment and then head out to go and enjoy the winter wonderland. She hadn't CC skied in awhile and while she did slip and fall, it was overall a god time.
She enjoyed it, and told me that she was having a lot of fun. So still skiing and in the middle of the woods, we stop at a rest station and then i pull out some PP&J. She liked this at well, and enjoyed the food lol. SO after a quick snack we head back out on our skis and start going back to the car.
Now one would think that this would be the start of a good date, or at least the start to something good. The conversation was always easy, never forced and we seemed to get along well.
So after we got back to the car, we drove back to my place and then dropped off the skis. Afterward, while driving back to College, we stop at a really nice sushi place. And me being the nice walk on me mat kind of gentleman that i am, i pay for it and think nothing of it.
Long story short, the end of the night finishes well and i spent the rest of the night in a really really good mood. I had thought that the date went well, and the next day i was defiantly assured of what i thought. Two of her friends call me and begin going batshit insane on me, because they think that i am so cute, we look good together and your so nice balh blah blah. The tell me that she had a very good time, and all of that shit.
So now (With only one week before spring break) Me and her stared to hang out a bit more. She randomly is stopping by my room and cuddles with me, and everything is going well. Except when her friends tell me that she doesn't like me anymore, while at the same time is still ON A DAY TO DAY FUCKING BASIS coming into my room and cuddling with me.
._______________________.
I wasn't thrilled.
So i decided to set things straight and ask her if she would like to go on a second date. She doesn't answer me. I ask her twice in two days, and tells me and i quote "Ohh Ben stop it."
wtf is that.
At this point i have no idea what this bitch wants. All i want to know is what the fuck did i do? Or in this case not do?
Insert long exasperated sigh-
So spring break comes along, and i did get to say good by to her, and during the break i text her- and this is what i get back: (No i am not shitting you, this is exactly what the text said.)
:Who is this?:
me- :Ben?:
That Bitch- .......................................
yep that's right. She doesn't even have the god damn ovaries to text me back. fuck.
So i come back to school, and i am at the gym on monday. WHO DO I SEE? BUT HER!!!!
with another guy- flirting it up, and wearing exactly what she wore when we went to the gym. I have never benched more ever. Incorol i am going to catch and beat your record soon.
So im now out 60-70$ with gas money, and food and that whore is out sweet talking some other guy.
Thank god jill will never me.
FML
thanks for reading, have a good day, and i hope you got rich.
  
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LOL, Man that sucks.
That's why you gotta split the costs, the gentleman thing will only get you taken advantage of =p
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what does this mean? Thank god jill will never me.
dudeeee, this sounds like a love story gone haywire and shit. gl.
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WTF is up with her friends randomly calling you. That's just weird.
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thanks for our support.
Thank god jill will never _____ me.
fill in the blank.
I like to fill in
leave
let me down
give me up
tell a lie and hurt me
make me buy dinner ext
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On April 03 2009 07:29 Misrah wrote:
thanks for our support.
Thank god jill will never _____ me.
fill in the blank.
I like to fill in
leave
let me down
give me up
tell a lie and hurt me
make me buy dinner ext
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
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On April 03 2009 07:38 Rice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 07:29 Misrah wrote:
thanks for our support.
Thank god jill will never _____ me.
fill in the blank.
I like to fill in
leave
let me down
give me up
tell a lie and hurt me
make me buy dinner ext Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
Thanks for that lol
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We all need a bit of Rick Astley in our lives
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wanna be gold digger
fake ssibal
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hey but u said u saw them, she didnt see u right
offer to take her on a EXPENSIVE AS FUCK DINNER
be like oh i have to use the restroom and leave her with the tab
GG
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i don't know what she was- but i can tell you this, im off brown haired girls forever.
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when she heard you wanted revolutionize zvt she thought you are just another naive, idealistic man.
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On April 03 2009 07:48 freelander wrote:
when she heard you wanted revolutionize zvt she thought you are just another naive, idealistic man.
L
O
L
The only thing we are missing now, is t_co and last romantic.
where are you!
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On April 03 2009 07:43 HeavOnEarth wrote:
hey but u said u saw them, she didnt see u right
offer to take her on a EXPENSIVE AS FUCK DINNER
be like oh i have to use the restroom and leave her with the tab
GG
I would do that, but she saw me. So she knows lol.
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At least you got her to eat your PP? right i meen thats what a PP+J sandwich is right? or did you mistake PB+J?
anyway this makes me hungry for a Jill sandwich o-o
good read btw 
goodluck also~
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lol interseting story 
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Oh sweet, another member who likes cross country skiing. Do you compete? Never considered to go skiing on a date tho. Went skiing with a buch of girls however but only to have someone as company while training, two of them went to the last winter olympics.
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Here's the thing.
This has happened to me before.
Situation: There is a nice girl. We chat a lot, we get to know each other. Finally, I ask her out on a date a week later. We go to a park, next to a huge river. I brought take-out, and we share it on a large wooden deck, while the sun is slowly setting. We finish the food. We sit on the swingsets in a nearby playground, and comfortably talk.
The next few days, I bring her over to my place, and we hang out. We even cuddled together.
I keep treating her really well. I talk to her often. But, I asked her out on another date, and she rejects me.
She thinks that I'm a really nice and caring guy. (In the beginning, she thought that I was a bad-boy, who got what he wanted). So basically, I lost my "power". I took the initiative to ask her on a date. She had fun. But, you kept taking the fun to her. Perhaps, we should have given it some time to settle. Make the girl miss you. "Well, Ben was a really fun date. But I haven't seen him in a couple days. I kinda miss him."
I guess, our mistake was smothering the girl, and trying to keep the momentum going. Girls like to play a cat-and-mouse game. Treat her really well, but don't always keep smothering her with your good graces.
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So, after a few months, I fell for my ex-gf again. I didn't want to fuck around anymore, and get back together with her (because we were the best match).
Basically, this meant that I stopped becoming so available for this new girl. I stopped jumping to hang out with her. I stopped calling/messaging her. So after 4-5 weeks, she starts to message me first. I don't rush to help her anymore, so half the time, I'm not available. But when we do hang out, obviously I still treat her well. But she's way more flirty, and keeps acting jealous about other girls around me.
(If I was still interested in this girl, this is the tactic I should have used. I should have acted disinterested, and shouldn't have been always available for her. Give it some time, and she'll begin to miss you. Spend time with your own friends; have your own life. When you do spend time with her, be super confident, and enjoy it. Don't pine for more time with her. If she doesn't want a 2nd date, act like you don't care! You're a good guy. You planned a great date. You were a gentleman.)
Here's the rule in relationships: The power belongs to the person who needs the relationship less. 
Be happy by yourself. Then, she'll come to you. (but this bitch sounds like she's not worth it anyways)
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On April 03 2009 07:38 Rice wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 07:29 Misrah wrote:
thanks for our support.
Thank god jill will never _____ me.
fill in the blank.
I like to fill in
leave
let me down
give me up
tell a lie and hurt me
make me buy dinner ext Never gonna give you up Never gonna let you down Never gonna run around and desert you Never gonna make you cry Never gonna say goodbye Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
I was getting rickrolled as I read this post
haha
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On April 03 2009 07:45 Misrah wrote:
i don't know what she was- but i can tell you this, im off brown haired girls forever.
blasphemy
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It was a good story, but this thread mostly just reminded me of my crush on Jill Valentine.
After all these years it's still there.
<3
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shouldve been never ___ me because it doesnt show. gl man, stay strong.
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How about that...
Sounds like you care more about being in a relationship than finding someone who is good for you. Stop worrying about it so much, ignore dumb girls like this, and just keep a lid on your head until you can find someone who actually suits you. I'm not trying to be insulting, pretty much everyone will experience this throughout their life, but you've gotta stop feeling so sorry for yourself, simply because it is so common, and it'll happen again a dozen times before things work out, sometimes with you on the other side of the fence.
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I feel your pain man. I was seeing some chick as well and it turns out I was the other guy (she was cheating on her boyfriend with me and we developed feelings for each other). Then things got better with her boyfriend and I was thrown away. And how did she let me know? After refusing to talk to me on the phone (and I quote her, "I fucking hate talking on the phone lol") I ask her to go on AIM. I figured it was nothing big - we left on good terms and I was 1000 miles away on spring break. Turns out she ended everything with me online on the last of spring break during a huge house party that I was missing out on because I was generally concerned about me and her... -.-
Bitches man. Women ain't shit. Hence my profile picture.
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FFS IT'S DEFINITELY...D E F I N I T E L Y.
NOT defiantly. God...you made the same mistake like twice in that same post...I let it go the first time as a possible mistake...but oh man.
Aside from that...that sucks horribly. Girls are bitches.
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Ya here is the thing, after the first date- she wanted to kiss me, i waited. I wanted to make her work for it lol. I never called or txted her for no reason, i was chill. I can really say that i was not smothering her. idc though- i have a new state of mind:
"If it happens it happens, and if not then so what. Jill is there."
Otherwise thanks for all of the great advice guys take it easy!
Also fakesteve where are you?!
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On April 03 2009 07:45 Misrah wrote:
i don't know what she was- but i can tell you this, im off brown haired girls forever.
Bah, brown hair girls are usually the better ones IMO.
GL with your future relationships though
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On April 03 2009 08:10 Eatme wrote:
Oh sweet, another member who likes cross country skiing. Do you compete? Never considered to go skiing on a date tho. Went skiing with a buch of girls however but only to have someone as company while training, two of them went to the last winter olympics.
yes i used to compete. the only race that i do know on a regular basis is the Birkibiner. I love that race. Have you done that one? I'ts HUGE as far as CC skiing goes.
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Wow. My name is Ben too and I'm thinking about asking a girl named Jill out. WTF! I hope things work out for you man. 
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As soon as you asked her on that 2nd date and she gave you no reply you should've given her the freeze. You took initiative to ask, she should have the decency to respond.
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hey OP move on with your life and dont sweat the unfortunates
and don't take advice from whatisprotoss about relationships
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On April 03 2009 08:12 WhatisProtoss wrote:Here's the thing. This has happened to me before. Situation: There is a nice girl. We chat a lot, we get to know each other. Finally, I ask her out on a date a week later. We go to a park, next to a huge river. I brought take-out, and we share it on a large wooden deck, while the sun is slowly setting. We finish the food. We sit on the swingsets in a nearby playground, and comfortably talk. The next few days, I bring her over to my place, and we hang out. We even cuddled together. I keep treating her really well. I talk to her often. But, I asked her out on another date, and she rejects me. She thinks that I'm a really nice and caring guy. (In the beginning, she thought that I was a bad-boy, who got what he wanted). So basically, I lost my "power". I took the initiative to ask her on a date. She had fun. But, you kept taking the fun to her. Perhaps, we should have given it some time to settle. Make the girl miss you. "Well, Ben was a really fun date. But I haven't seen him in a couple days. I kinda miss him." I guess, our mistake was smothering the girl, and trying to keep the momentum going. Girls like to play a cat-and-mouse game. Treat her really well, but don't always keep smothering her with your good graces. ---- So, after a few months, I fell for my ex-gf again. I didn't want to fuck around anymore, and get back together with her (because we were the best match). Basically, this meant that I stopped becoming so available for this new girl. I stopped jumping to hang out with her. I stopped calling/messaging her. So after 4-5 weeks, she starts to message me first. I don't rush to help her anymore, so half the time, I'm not available. But when we do hang out, obviously I still treat her well. But she's way more flirty, and keeps acting jealous about other girls around me. (If I was still interested in this girl, this is the tactic I should have used. I should have acted disinterested, and shouldn't have been always available for her. Give it some time, and she'll begin to miss you. Spend time with your own friends; have your own life. When you do spend time with her, be super confident, and enjoy it. Don't pine for more time with her. If she doesn't want a 2nd date, act like you don't care! You're a good guy. You planned a great date. You were a gentleman.) Here's the rule in relationships: The power belongs to the person who needs the relationship less. Be happy by yourself. Then, she'll come to you. (but this bitch sounds like she's not worth it anyways)
Listen to this guy!
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On April 03 2009 08:01 ShmotZ wrote:At least you got her to eat your PP? right i meen thats what a PP+J sandwich is right? or did you mistake PB+J? anyway this makes me hungry for a Jill sandwich o-o good read btw goodluck also~
what the fuck is this gibberish ?
could someone please pleaase explain to my confused little non-native english speaker ass?
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On April 04 2009 03:51 minus_human wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 08:01 ShmotZ wrote:At least you got her to eat your PP? right i meen thats what a PP+J sandwich is right? or did you mistake PB+J? anyway this makes me hungry for a Jill sandwich o-o good read btw goodluck also~ what the fuck is this gibberish ? could someone please pleaase explain to my confused little non-native english speaker ass? t________________________________t;;;;
Misrah wrote that they had pp&j on the date. shmotz was wondering what pp&j meant and speculated that it was some sexual inuendo (pp -> penis). He then asks if misrah actually meant pb&j which is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
I don't actually know what the fuck pp&j is and I think its a typo.
Urban dictionary is interesting though: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pp&j
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u know something
i miss inc posting in relationship threads like this
where did our buddy go
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Part of dating. W/e, move on.
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On April 03 2009 11:57 Misrah wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 08:10 Eatme wrote:
Oh sweet, another member who likes cross country skiing. Do you compete? Never considered to go skiing on a date tho. Went skiing with a buch of girls however but only to have someone as company while training, two of them went to the last winter olympics. yes i used to compete. the only race that i do know on a regular basis is the Birkibiner. I love that race. Have you done that one? I'ts HUGE as far as CC skiing goes.
I assume you are talking about American Birkebeiner and no I have not. Not done the original one in Norway either but really considering that or Flyktingloppet since I really like some climbing. I have done Vasaloppet 10times now and combine long distance races with normal ones. Finished 2nd in my last 10k classic competition of the season, but I really do suck compared to the effort I put in. Would be cool to race on the american continent but I cant really afford that at the moment.
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bro, ITS NOT YOUR FAULT. Its not your fault. its not your fault. Dont change your ways man, you'll find someone who is less of a cunt.
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DUDE shit... i've been in similar situation but i nvr poked a $70-60 dollar hole in my pocket!
man.. i don't get those kind of girls
On April 03 2009 08:12 WhatisProtoss wrote:Here's the thing. This has happened to me before. Situation: There is a nice girl. We chat a lot, we get to know each other. Finally, I ask her out on a date a week later. We go to a park, next to a huge river. I brought take-out, and we share it on a large wooden deck, while the sun is slowly setting. We finish the food. We sit on the swingsets in a nearby playground, and comfortably talk. The next few days, I bring her over to my place, and we hang out. We even cuddled together. I keep treating her really well. I talk to her often. But, I asked her out on another date, and she rejects me. She thinks that I'm a really nice and caring guy. (In the beginning, she thought that I was a bad-boy, who got what he wanted). So basically, I lost my "power". I took the initiative to ask her on a date. She had fun. But, you kept taking the fun to her. Perhaps, we should have given it some time to settle. Make the girl miss you. "Well, Ben was a really fun date. But I haven't seen him in a couple days. I kinda miss him." I guess, our mistake was smothering the girl, and trying to keep the momentum going. Girls like to play a cat-and-mouse game. Treat her really well, but don't always keep smothering her with your good graces. ---- So, after a few months, I fell for my ex-gf again. I didn't want to fuck around anymore, and get back together with her (because we were the best match). Basically, this meant that I stopped becoming so available for this new girl. I stopped jumping to hang out with her. I stopped calling/messaging her. So after 4-5 weeks, she starts to message me first. I don't rush to help her anymore, so half the time, I'm not available. But when we do hang out, obviously I still treat her well. But she's way more flirty, and keeps acting jealous about other girls around me. (If I was still interested in this girl, this is the tactic I should have used. I should have acted disinterested, and shouldn't have been always available for her. Give it some time, and she'll begin to miss you. Spend time with your own friends; have your own life. When you do spend time with her, be super confident, and enjoy it. Don't pine for more time with her. If she doesn't want a 2nd date, act like you don't care! You're a good guy. You planned a great date. You were a gentleman.) Here's the rule in relationships: The power belongs to the person who needs the relationship less. Be happy by yourself. Then, she'll come to you. (but this bitch sounds like she's not worth it anyways)
dude if i had done the whole make her want me more and she wanted me... i still would not go for a girl like that... fuk that shit
girls have to realize that in the end they will want to be w/ a nice guy not some jerk face... that's soo high school crush... immature girls =P
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On April 04 2009 10:48 R3condite wrote:DUDE shit... i've been in similar situation but i nvr poked a $70-60 dollar hole in my pocket! man.. i don't get those kind of girls Show nested quote +On April 03 2009 08:12 WhatisProtoss wrote:Here's the thing. This has happened to me before. Situation: There is a nice girl. We chat a lot, we get to know each other. Finally, I ask her out on a date a week later. We go to a park, next to a huge river. I brought take-out, and we share it on a large wooden deck, while the sun is slowly setting. We finish the food. We sit on the swingsets in a nearby playground, and comfortably talk. The next few days, I bring her over to my place, and we hang out. We even cuddled together. I keep treating her really well. I talk to her often. But, I asked her out on another date, and she rejects me. She thinks that I'm a really nice and caring guy. (In the beginning, she thought that I was a bad-boy, who got what he wanted). So basically, I lost my "power". I took the initiative to ask her on a date. She had fun. But, you kept taking the fun to her. Perhaps, we should have given it some time to settle. Make the girl miss you. "Well, Ben was a really fun date. But I haven't seen him in a couple days. I kinda miss him." I guess, our mistake was smothering the girl, and trying to keep the momentum going. Girls like to play a cat-and-mouse game. Treat her really well, but don't always keep smothering her with your good graces. ---- So, after a few months, I fell for my ex-gf again. I didn't want to fuck around anymore, and get back together with her (because we were the best match). Basically, this meant that I stopped becoming so available for this new girl. I stopped jumping to hang out with her. I stopped calling/messaging her. So after 4-5 weeks, she starts to message me first. I don't rush to help her anymore, so half the time, I'm not available. But when we do hang out, obviously I still treat her well. But she's way more flirty, and keeps acting jealous about other girls around me. (If I was still interested in this girl, this is the tactic I should have used. I should have acted disinterested, and shouldn't have been always available for her. Give it some time, and she'll begin to miss you. Spend time with your own friends; have your own life. When you do spend time with her, be super confident, and enjoy it. Don't pine for more time with her. If she doesn't want a 2nd date, act like you don't care! You're a good guy. You planned a great date. You were a gentleman.) Here's the rule in relationships: The power belongs to the person who needs the relationship less. Be happy by yourself. Then, she'll come to you. (but this bitch sounds like she's not worth it anyways) dude if i had done the whole make her want me more and she wanted me... i still would not go for a girl like that... fuk that shit girls have to realize that in the end they will want to be w/ a nice guy not some jerk face... that's soo high school crush... immature girls =P
Actually, you're right. The girl should be smart and PICK the nice guy.
But, you know, it's like us too. Guys SHOULD be picking all those nice girls who treat them well. But sometimes, we just don't fall for them. "You're the kind of girl I would want to date."
Girls just don't like guys who are too direct and move quickly. Because, if you want the relationship really badly, it gives an indirect signal of, "I need you." It could be too much. If you play the cat-and-mouse game, and show the woman that you don't need her to be happy, then she'll like you way more.
This is just the way it works. (of course, once in a while, there's the hot/smart girl who breaks these rules, and will fall completely for you) But even if you break up with that hot/smart girl, you can most likely get her back by trying to forget her, NOT contacting her, and being happy and busy by yourself.
This is the classic "Nice Guy" thing. Girls love nice guys. But, keep being nice and do everything for the girl.... you won't be her boyfriend. You'll be her best friend. She'll say things like, "I wish all guys were like you," then go date some guy who seems like a jerk compared to you. The reason why she doesn't like this kind of nice guy is because he lacks the balls to stand up for himself. This does NOT mean you have to turn into a cocky jerk. Just be confident and busy. Don't always be available. She will miss you.
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GOD I LOVE YOU GUYS!
this is going to sound gay. I admit it now so that way you all can't crush my ego even further down my face- but you are my support group. I hope your happy.
also to the guy who CC ski's i will be sending you a pm and YOU ARE GOING TO COME TO THE FUCKING BERKI WITH MEH AND FREEZE YOUR BALLZ OFF AND START SKIING AT 7am ok?
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