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PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
March 23 2009 17:20 GMT
#21
I think all you idiots miss the point and are turning the thread into shit it doesn't need to be.

Fucking seed.
We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg)
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 23 2009 17:30 GMT
#22
On March 24 2009 01:35 NonFactor wrote:
I agree, nationalism is useless. For example, when Sweden beats another country in hockey for example, why should I be happy? Did I somehow contribute to their win? Am I superior to others because the people who beat the other people happened to be born closer to me? No. We all come from Earth. Imo the whole industry when it comes to World Cup is rather useless, the sport on other hand is kind of fun.

I usually don't give a crap about soccer, but when sweden plays, I'm fucking pumped. It's MY TEAM is all. No the lines in the sand don't matter, but you are from the same country, they share most of your values and culture, they represent you. When I tell people I'm swedish in the US, they automatically think I'm awesome. Sweden is where the Shortsnout dragons come from, and that other creature Luna was talking about. Yes goddamnit, Sweden featured in fucking Harry Potter, I nearly came, not because I have anything to do with what my country is like or does or thinks, but simply because it's MY TEAM. Humans are pack animals, we care about our pack. If some other pack gets suicide bombed, we shrug and say "thats a shame," but if some of our herd does good in soccer you're damn right we're gonna show pride at being of the same herd as them.

I may have lost my train of thought, but the tl;dr of it comes down to this: humans are teamplayers.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 23 2009 17:38 GMT
#23
Why did you think military would be relaxed? Or was it just really wishful thinking? I'm not trying to poke fun at you, since I understand service is mandatory in Singapore.

Good luck to you. I hope you can avoid doing anything terrible.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
Makhno
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
March 23 2009 17:41 GMT
#24
On March 24 2009 02:30 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2009 01:35 NonFactor wrote:
I agree, nationalism is useless. For example, when Sweden beats another country in hockey for example, why should I be happy? Did I somehow contribute to their win? Am I superior to others because the people who beat the other people happened to be born closer to me? No. We all come from Earth. Imo the whole industry when it comes to World Cup is rather useless, the sport on other hand is kind of fun.

I usually don't give a crap about soccer, but when sweden plays, I'm fucking pumped. It's MY TEAM is all. No the lines in the sand don't matter, but you are from the same country, they share most of your values and culture, they represent you. When I tell people I'm swedish in the US, they automatically think I'm awesome. Sweden is where the Shortsnout dragons come from, and that other creature Luna was talking about. Yes goddamnit, Sweden featured in fucking Harry Potter, I nearly came, not because I have anything to do with what my country is like or does or thinks, but simply because it's MY TEAM. Humans are pack animals, we care about our pack. If some other pack gets suicide bombed, we shrug and say "thats a shame," but if some of our herd does good in soccer you're damn right we're gonna show pride at being of the same herd as them.

I may have lost my train of thought, but the tl;dr of it comes down to this: humans are teamplayers.


However un-patriotic I may call myself, the mention of Sweden in Harry Potter (several times!) made me all warm and proud. Soccer does'nt though, Honestly I think it's mostly because the reference toutches closer to your own person, but many times it may be because you feel some sort connection to your nation/culture/whatever.

One thing though: Bulgaria got the coolest dragon, fuck!
"If I think, everything is lost"
Mista
Profile Joined January 2009
Singapore1022 Posts
March 23 2009 19:11 GMT
#25
Welcome to the Army son
Time for some Revolution !
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
March 23 2009 19:34 GMT
#26
i know someone who is (was?) in the Singapore army. He became a Lieutenant.

If he survived, you should be fine
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
March 23 2009 22:03 GMT
#27
On March 24 2009 02:18 Track wrote:
From a TL.net user in the US Marine Corps, stand tough for your country. It's not about nationalism or ignorant patriotism, it's about defending the men and women next to you; it's about fighting for a cause greater than yourself and knowing that what you're doing is having a positive effect on those you love.


See this I understand, that's something I could really see myself fighting for. Myself, my friends, my family, things like that.

But as mentioned in this thread before, things that people did a few hundred years back shouldn't and don't matter to me.

I agree with you though, it should be about fighting for yourself and your family etc etc.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
March 23 2009 22:34 GMT
#28
On March 24 2009 00:35 chaoser wrote:
It has to do with a sense of community, humans are social creatures and so when the place where you reside in gets threatened by an outside force, you band together to fight back. You could even scale that feeling back to TL. People feel pride in TL and when other sites (SC2GG, GosuGamers, etc.) challenge TL to showmatches, we show solidarity. Most people don't contribute much to the main parts of the site PX, TLPD, TLFE, LR but we still contribute in small ways that make us feel as if we belong blogs, topics, posting and so that's similar to people in a country doing work or purchasing goods from that country. It's about pride.

this

blind nationalism is different thing altogether but this thread is full of really retarded posts.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
March 23 2009 23:20 GMT
#29
On March 24 2009 00:35 chaoser wrote:
It has to do with a sense of community, humans are social creatures and so when the place where you reside in gets threatened by an outside force, you band together to fight back. You could even scale that feeling back to TL. People feel pride in TL and when other sites (SC2GG, GosuGamers, etc.) challenge TL to showmatches, we show solidarity. Most people don't contribute much to the main parts of the site PX, TLPD, TLFE, LR but we still contribute in small ways that make us feel as if we belong blogs, topics, posting and so that's similar to people in a country doing work or purchasing goods from that country. It's about pride.

good post.

OT - Why the hell aren't you posting on mafia?
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gzealot
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Singapore238 Posts
March 24 2009 01:46 GMT
#30
which vocation are you posted in, roughly? I dont need the definite details..

I have been through the Officer Cadet Training Course in Singapore, only worse training would be from Commandos and other special Ops units. If you can take heart in that..

as for not going home, take it as saving money. When i went home everyday, transport cost a freaking BOMB. Its a short two years (or 1 year 10 months).

ORD LORH!
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