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simfarm
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Ireland75 Posts
March 10 2009 10:20 GMT
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Hello Team Liquid. So it took long enough but I'm graduating this semester from an American university in economics and math. My goals for the next three years are to travel as much as possible (working in each place, of course). I also have a lot of questions in general.

Firstly, how much money should I accumulate to start off living on my own? I have four thousand right now; is this enough to set myself up somewhere (with extra so that in case things fall through I at least have some buffer)?

Secondly, I am interested in working in other English-speaking places outside of the United States. I'm currently in Ireland and Ireland doesn't allow foreign workers except for extraordinary circumstances (if I'm caught working, they'll immediately deport me and bar me entrance to the EU for ten years). I was wondering if anyone knows how working in NZ, Australia, GB, South Africa, ect. works.

I'm also guessing that living on my own outside of school will take some adjustment. Probably'll be weird, but, hell, I can't wait to graduate.

Thanks.

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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
March 10 2009 10:55 GMT
#2

I'm graduating this semester from an American university



I'm currently in Ireland


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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25997 Posts
March 10 2009 12:11 GMT
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Calculate how much money you need for 2-6 months of living expenses and then save that before you start travelling.
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DeepGreen
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States175 Posts
March 10 2009 12:45 GMT
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On March 10 2009 19:20 simfarm wrote:
Firstly, how much money should I accumulate to start off living on my own? I have four thousand right now; is this enough to set myself up somewhere (with extra so that in case things fall through I at least have some buffer)?



It completely depends on where you live. New York City costs way more than say some little town in central PA. That said, if you're persistent about applying for a job (read: apply for new ones every single day), four grand should be enough to get you going. Be aware that in the current economy, job hunting is going to really suck and you very well might need to take a temp job.


On March 10 2009 19:20 simfarm wrote:
Secondly, I am interested in working in other English-speaking places outside of the United States. I'm currently in Ireland and Ireland doesn't allow foreign workers except for extraordinary circumstances (if I'm caught working, they'll immediately deport me and bar me entrance to the EU for ten years). I was wondering if anyone knows how working in NZ, Australia, GB, South Africa, ect. works.


Not sure. But your University probably has a multicultural center, foreign studies department (who did you contact to spend a semester abroad?) or something similar that employs people who'd be qualified to answer this.

On March 10 2009 19:20 simfarm wrote:
I'm also guessing that living on my own outside of school will take some adjustment. Probably'll be weird, but, hell, I can't wait to graduate.

Thanks.


It does. It's also kind of nice. It's best if you've got friends in the area, or you're friendly enough to make friends.
So I told him your car was like that when I got here and as for your grandmother she shouldnt have mouthed off like that
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
March 10 2009 15:05 GMT
#5
Make sure you figure out how you will find jobs in all these places you want to travel to. It should always be possible to find a job wherever you go, but I wouldn't count on finding a job in math/stats instantly for a short period of time like 6mo-1yr. If you have contracts lined up or have this figured out, nvm.

4k can last you different amounts of time depending on what kind of spending habits you have. If you plan to stay in hotels at all, start saving money. I would consider 4k the minimum for 2 months - not because you will spend it all, but having enough money to cover stupid stuff that can happen is very helpful. I would say if you're ridiculously good at saving money or don't need to cover housing costs, 4k might last you 4mo.
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