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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 09 2009 01:10 GMT
#1
I know there are a couple of people on teamliquid that live in Australia, I'm very sorry of whats going on and I hope you all are safe. It sounds like a huge fire, basically a whole town was razed. Over 100 people died, I'm not sure how a fire can kill so many people, would nobody not see it? So sad to read about.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_australia_wildfires

HEALESVILLE, Australia – Entire towns have been razed by wildfires raging through southeastern Australia, burning people in their homes and cars in the deadliest blaze in the country's history. The number of dead Monday stood at 108, a grim toll that rose almost by the hour as officials reached further into the fire zone.

Searing temperatures and wind blasts created a firestorm that swept across a swath of the country's Victoria state, where at least 750 homes were destroyed and all of the victims died.

"Hell in all its fury has visited the good people of Victoria," Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said. "It's an appalling tragedy for the nation."

If any of the deadly fires were deliberately lit, "There are no words to describe it other than mass murder," he said on Nine Network television.

The skies rained ash and trees exploded in the inferno, witnesses said, as temperatures of up 117 F (47 C) combined with blasting winds to create furnace-like conditions.

The town of Marysville and several hamlets in the Kinglake district, both about 50 miles (100 kilometers) north of Melbourne, were utterly devastated.

At Marysville, a winter tourism town that was home to about 800 people, up to 90 percent of buildings were in ruins, witnesses said. Police said two people died there.

"Marysville is no more," Senior Constable Brian Cross told the AP as he manned a checkpoint Sunday on a road leading into the town.

At least 18 of the deaths were from the Kinglake area, where residents said the fire hit with barely any notice.

Mandy Darkin said she was working at a restaurant "like nothing was going on" until they were suddenly told to go home.

"I looked outside the window and said: 'Whoa, we are out of here, this is going to be bad,'" Darkin said. "I could see it coming. I just remember the blackness and you could hear it, it sounded like a train."

Only five houses were left standing out of about 40 in one neighborhood that an Associated Press news crew flew over. Street after street was lined by smoldering wrecks of homes, roofs collapsed inward, iron roof sheets twisted from the heat. The burned-out hulks of cars dotted roads. A church was smoldering, only one wall with a giant cross etched in it remained standing.

Here and there, fire crews filled their trucks from ponds and sprayed down spot fires. There were no other signs of life.

From the air, the landscape was blackened as far as the eye could see. Entire forests were reduced to leafless, charred trunks, farmland to ashes. The Victoria Country Fire Service said some 850 square miles (2,200 square kilometers) were burned out.

Rudd, on a tour of the fire zone, paused to comfort a man who wept on his shoulder, telling him, "You're still here, mate."

Police said they were hampered from reaching burned-out areas to confirm details of deaths and property loss. At least 80 people were hospitalized with burns.

On Sunday temperatures in the area dropped to about 77 F (25 C) but along with cooler conditions came wind changes that officials said could push fires in unpredictable directions.

Thousands of exhausted volunteer firefighters were battling about 30 uncontrolled fires Sunday night in Victoria, officials said, though conditions had eased considerably. It would be days before they were brought under control, even if temperatures stayed down, they said.

Residents were repeatedly advised on radio and television announcements to initiate their so-called "fire plan" — whether it be staying in their homes to battle the flames or to evacuate before the roads became too dangerous. But some of the deaths were people who were apparently caught by the fire as they fled in their cars or killed when charred tree limbs fell on their vehicles.

Rudd announced immediate emergency aid of 10 million Australian dollars ($7 million), and government officials said the army would be deployed to help fight the fires and clean up the debris.

Victoria Department of Sustainability and Environment spokesman Geoff Russell said early Monday that 108 deaths had been confirmed.

Australia's previous worst fires were in 1983, when blazes killed 75 people and razed more than 3,000 homes in Victoria and South Australia state during "Ash Wednesday." Seventy-one died and 650 buildings were destroyed in 1939's "Black Friday" fires.

Wildfires are common during the Australian summer. Government research shows about half of the roughly 60,000 fires each year are deliberately lit or suspicious. Lightning and people using machinery near dry brush are other causes.

Victoria police Deputy Commissioner Kieran Walshe said police suspected some of the fires were set deliberately.

Dozens of fires were also burning in New South Wales state, where temperatures remained high for the third consecutive day. Properties were not under immediate threat.


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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
February 09 2009 02:19 GMT
#2
i wonder if anyone from TL has died from these events ... and we assume it's just that they quit TL D:
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
February 09 2009 02:21 GMT
#3
This heat wave is fucking brutal, NZ is just about to get it off australia... we're already getting temperatures up to 38C (human body temperature is 37C for you americans)
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 09 2009 02:25 GMT
#4
Wow that is super hot, almost like a desert. This fire must be even crazier than I though, moving up to NZ like that
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16986 Posts
February 09 2009 02:33 GMT
#5
Summer ends for you guys in about a month, though...but still, wow, that's insanely hot. Hope things work out down there :O
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 09 2009 02:36 GMT
#6
On February 09 2009 11:25 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Wow that is super hot, almost like a desert. This fire must be even crazier than I though, moving up to NZ like that

I think he meant the heat wave, not the fire. I could be wrong.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 09 2009 02:36 GMT
#7
Wow, 38C is like Southern CA in the summer, and we all know how many fires Southern CA gets ><

I hope no more Australians are hurt :x
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 02:38:54
February 09 2009 02:38 GMT
#8
Yeah it's pretty sad.

People were staying home to protect their homes, but these fires sweep through the land so quickly people just don't have time to get out when they realise they're in trouble.

It's already Australia's deadliest bush fire, and death toll is still rising...

Some pictures here for anyone interested: http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,22010,5037339-5006020,00.html#
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Lamentations
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia211 Posts
February 09 2009 02:50 GMT
#9
It is not just a normal fire that is easy to avoid, that is why people die. It is very fast and the flames are several metres above the treetops. The fires move very fast as well, with wind and the dry flora of the Australian outback (which wants to burn as part of a natural process to help the seeds germinate in the nutritious ash).

I think it is something like 750 houses razed and last I saw 108 people dead, with an expected toll of 180. The weeks leading up to the fires the temperature was sitting around 43-45 degrees celcius so there was bound to be a fire.

I could see what I think is lots of the smoke from it that had travelled up from Victoria to where I am in Canberra right now.
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skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
February 09 2009 02:58 GMT
#10
Dunedin has a yellow sky because of the smoke from the fires in Australia
Sindri
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia56 Posts
February 09 2009 02:59 GMT
#11
I woke up 2 days ago to find my car and lawn almost completely covered in ash. It was difficult to go outside without choking for awhile. Thankfully the fires haven't come close enough to where I live to do any serious damage, but the wind isn't helping.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8098 Posts
February 09 2009 03:05 GMT
#12
this blog makes me sad
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
February 09 2009 03:07 GMT
#13
Holy crap, those pictures were unreal. How mane acres has this fire burnt out?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
February 09 2009 03:16 GMT
#14
Here's what you're dealing with:

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"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
February 09 2009 03:26 GMT
#15
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From the link to the images...wow.
jxzcvk
Profile Joined December 2008
Australia4 Posts
February 09 2009 03:27 GMT
#16
i actually had no idea about it until i saw this post
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
February 09 2009 03:32 GMT
#17
Here's a good story from The Australian about just how dangerous and quick the fire spreads. It's a really engrossing read:

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THEY warn you it comes fast. But the word "fast" doesn't come anywhere near describing it.

It comes at you like a runaway train. One minute you are preparing. The next you are fighting for your home. Then you are fighting for your life.

But it is not minutes that come between. It's more like seconds. The firestorm moves faster than you can think, let alone react.

For 25 years, we had lived on our hilltop in St Andrews, in the hills northeast of Melbourne.

You prepare like they tell you every summer.

You clear. You slash. You prime your fire pump. For 25 years, fires were something that you watched in the distance.

Until Saturday.

We had been watching the massive plume of smoke from the fire near Kilmore all afternoon; secure in the knowledge it was too far away to pose a danger.

Then suddenly there is smoke and flames across the valley, about a kilometre to the northwest, being driven towards you by the wind. Not too bad, you think.

I rush around the side of the house to start the petrol-powered fire pump to begin spraying the house, just in case.

When I get there, I suddenly see flames rushing towards the house from the west. The tongues of flame are in our front paddock, racing up the hill towards us across grass stubble I thought safe because it had been slashed.

In the seconds it takes me to register the flames, they are into a small stand of trees 50m from the house. Heat and embers drive at me like an open blast furnace. I run to shelter inside, like they tell you, until the fire front passes.

Inside are my wife, a 13-year-old girl we care for, and a menagerie of animals "rescued" over the year by our veterinary-student daughter.

They call it "ember attack". Those words don't do it justice.

It is a fiery hailstorm from hell driving relentlessly at you. The wind and driving embers explore, like claws of a predator, every tiny gap in the house. Embers are blowing through the cracks around the closed doors and windows.

We frantically wipe at them with wet towels. We are fighting for all we own. We still have hope.

The house begins to fill with smoke. The smoke alarms start to scream. The smoke gets thicker.

I go outside to see if the fire front has passed. One of our two cars under a carport is burning. I rush inside to get keys for the second and reverse it out into an open area in front of the house to save it.

That simple act will save our lives. I rush back around the side of the house, where plastic plant pots are in flames. I turn on a garden hose. Nothing comes out.

I look back along its length and see where the flames have melted it. I try to pick up one of the carefully positioned plastic buckets of water I've left around the house. Its metal handle pulls away from the melted sides.

I rush back inside the house. The smoke is much thicker. I see flames behind the louvres of a door into a storage room, off the kitchen. I open the door and there is a fire burning fiercely.

I realise the house is gone. We are now fighting for our lives.

We retreat to the last room in the house, at the end of the building furthest from where the firestorm hit. We slam the door, shutting the room off from the rest of the house. The room is quickly filling with smoke. It's black, toxic smoke, different from the superheated smoke outside.

We start coughing and gasping for air. Life is rapidly beginning to narrow to a grim, but inevitable choice. Die from the toxic smoke inside. Die from the firestorm outside.

The room we are in has french doors opening on to the front veranda. Somewhere out of the chaos of thoughts surfaces recent media bushfire training I had done with the CFA. When there's nothing else, a car might save you.

I run the 30 or 40 steps to the car through the blast furnace. I wrench open the door to start the engine and turn on the airconditioning, as the CFA tells you, before going back for the others.

The key isn't in the ignition. Where in hell did I put it? I rush back to the house. By now the black, toxic smoke is so thick I can barely see the others. Everyone is coughing. Gasping. Choking. My wife is calling for one of our two small dogs, the gentle, loyal Gizmo, who has fled in terror.

I grope in my wife's handbag for her set of car keys. The smoke is so thick I can't see far enough to look into the bag. I find them by touch, thanks to a plastic spider key chain our daughter gave her as a joke. Our lives are saved by a plastic spider. I tell my wife time has run out. We have to get to the car. The choices have narrowed to just one option, just one slim chance to live.

Clutching the second of our two small dogs, we run to the car. I feel the radiant heat burning the back of my hand. The CFA training comes back again. Radiant heat kills.

The three of us are inside the car. I turn the key. It starts. We turn on the airconditioning and I reverse a little further away from the burning building. The flames are wrapped around the full fuel tank of the other car and I worry about it exploding.

We watch our home - our lives, everything we own - blazing fiercely just metres away. The heat builds. We try to drive down our driveway, but fallen branches block the way. I reverse back towards the house, but my wife warns me about sheets of red-hot roofing metal blowing towards us.

I drive back down, pushing the car through the branches. Further down the 400m drive, the flames have passed. But at the bottom, trees are burning.

We sit in the open, motor running and airconditioner turned on full. Behind us our home is aflame. We calmly watch from our hilltop, trapped in the sanctuary of our car, as first the house of one neighbour, then another, then another goes up in flames. One takes an agonisingly slow time to go, as the flames take a tenuous grip at one end and work their way slowly along the roof. Another at the bottom of our hill, more than a 100 years old and made of imported North American timber, explodes quickly in a plume of dark smoke.

All the while the car is being buffeted and battered by gale-force winds and bombarded by a hail of blackened material. It sounds like rocks hitting the car.

The house of our nearest neighbour, David, who owns a vineyard, has so far escaped. But a portable office attached to one wall is billowing smoke.

I leave the safety of the car and cross the fence. Where is the CFA, he frantically asks. With the CFA's help, perhaps he can save his house. What's their number, he asks me. I tell him we had already rung 000, before our own house burnt. Too many fires. Too few tankers. I leave him to his torment. I walk back towards our own house in a forlorn hope that by some miracle our missing dog may have survived in some unburned corner of the building.

Our home, everything we were, is a burning, twisted, blackened jumble. Our missing dog, Gizmo, Bobby our grumpy cockatoo, Zena the rescued galah that spoke Greek and imitated my whistle to call the dogs, our free-flying budgie nicknamed Lucky because he escaped a previous bushfire, are all gone. Killed in theinferno that almost claimed us as well.

I return to the car and spot the flashing lights of a CFA tanker through the blackened trees across the road. We drive down the freeway, I pull clear more fallen branches and we reach the main road. I walk across the road to the tanker and tell them if they are quick they might help David save his house. I still don't know if they did. We stop at a police checkpoint down the hill. They ask us where we've come from and what's happening up the road. I tell them there's no longer anything up the road.

We stop at the local CFA station in St Andrews. Two figures sit hunched in chairs, covered by wet towels for their serious burns. More neighbours. We hear that an old friend, two properties from us, is missing. A nurse wraps wet towels around superficial burns on my wife's leg and my hand.

We drive to my brother's house, which fate had spared, on the other side of St Andrews.

The thought occurs to me, where do you start when you've lost everything, even a way to identify yourself. Then I realise, of course, it doesn't matter. We escaped with our lives. Just. So many others didn't.

"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
February 09 2009 03:56 GMT
#18
38C is nothing. We had 44-45C persistantly for 4 or 5 days in Melbourne (the capital city of the state of Victoria, where all the bush fires are), then we had 1 or 2 cool days, they were about 38-40, and then we had the hottest day in history for the area. 46.4C

The most disgusting part about this is that some of the fires were contained.. only to be relit by arsonists.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
February 09 2009 04:35 GMT
#19
Just curious for those who live in Australia or southern California. If those places know there will be fire, why do they bother to keep on rebuilding? Same with reoccuring natural disasters like hurricane.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
February 09 2009 04:38 GMT
#20
On February 09 2009 12:56 ChaoSbringer wrote:
38C is nothing. We had 44-45C persistantly for 4 or 5 days in Melbourne (the capital city of the state of Victoria, where all the bush fires are), then we had 1 or 2 cool days, they were about 38-40, and then we had the hottest day in history for the area. 46.4C

The most disgusting part about this is that some of the fires were contained.. only to be relit by arsonists.


really some people are just scum, shouldnt hesitate to jail these idiots.

i saw some of this on the news last night, and it looked like a scene from fallout. entire towns with nothing left except for some scaffolding and ash. i cant believe so many people have died in a bushfire, 100? thats crazy

its cooler here in sydney but its still fairly hot. im sorry for you melbourne guys and i hope no one loses any loved ones
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 04:51:32
February 09 2009 04:50 GMT
#21
126 dead now.

750 homes destroyed,

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people died trying to escape the fire by car.
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betaben
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
681 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 04:54:22
February 09 2009 04:52 GMT
#22
edit: fuck, those pictures look bad. nevermind.
Lamentations
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia211 Posts
February 09 2009 05:15 GMT
#23
On February 09 2009 12:07 Osmoses wrote:
Holy crap, those pictures were unreal. How mane acres has this fire burnt out?


I think I remember something along the lines of 330,000 hectares (so 3,300 sq. km. or 815,500 acres) but I am not 100% sure. I know there have been bushfires in Victoria that burn out national park areas the size of Belgium.

Those pictures are daunting enough, it is hard to imagine the intense heat, lack of oxygen and choking smoke standing even far away from that wall of fire.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
February 09 2009 05:23 GMT
#24
On February 09 2009 13:35 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Just curious for those who live in Australia or southern California. If those places know there will be fire, why do they bother to keep on rebuilding? Same with reoccuring natural disasters like hurricane.


Although natural disasters like these occur on a regular basis, the odds of them actually affecting YOU are pretty small. When Southern California burns every year, what percentage of houses in all the vulnerable areas combined are actually destroyed? 0.1% or less? People are willing to take that risk. Plus there aren't very many places to live that aren't susceptible to some form of disaster.
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
February 09 2009 05:27 GMT
#25
On February 09 2009 13:35 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Just curious for those who live in Australia or southern California. If those places know there will be fire, why do they bother to keep on rebuilding? Same with reoccuring natural disasters like hurricane.


Australia is a dry place, so you can't really predict where the fires will be. Unless you live in the tropical areas up north, you're under threat from bushfires every summer. It's not like tornadoes that generally hit the same areas. Fires can start anywhere, any time and you can't predict where it will happen.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
February 09 2009 06:12 GMT
#26
Melbourne guy here, temp has being >42C for the last few days. The place is so hot that i don't think a bush fire is out of the question. Australia is just so... dry...

RIP to everyone suffered from the fire.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
February 09 2009 06:15 GMT
#27
it's like a fucking disaster for the east coast in australia, victoria with the bushfires and northern qld (?) with the cyclone/floods.
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Roxen000
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
1226 Posts
February 09 2009 07:04 GMT
#28
I live in Victoria (Geelong) where the fires are taking place. It's pretty crazy, Saturday it was 47 degrees where I live (highest on record) and extremely windy. Crazy stuff
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Eternity241
Profile Joined April 2008
Australia342 Posts
February 09 2009 07:06 GMT
#29
131 dead, wow, thank goodness I live in NSW, the scale of the fires are massive...

Our school is organising a donation for them, anyone else donating?
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
February 09 2009 07:58 GMT
#30
Yeah its really bad over here

The death toll has climbed up to 138 and its expected to hit 200. The fires were caused by firebugs which makes this a whole lot worse, the temprature hit 46.5 and the fire spread like wild fire

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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
February 09 2009 08:40 GMT
#31
Yeha this is pretty devestating.

It seems hard to imagine how people can be caught by fires like this. But during summer, when its consistantly above 40C everything dries out soo much, everything goes up in flames in such a short period of time. Then when a major road is cut off by the fire, you have a major distaster on your hands.

My thoughts go out to those affected by the fires.
Lamentations
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Australia211 Posts
February 09 2009 11:26 GMT
#32
I heard there was some instance where the fire was 80km away and hit in 2 hours - travelling 40km/hr average. I am sure some of it was faster (i.e. more than 40km/hr and not travelling at constant speed). At first it didn't sound so fast when you look at how it overran cars, but to think that you hear that the fire is 80km away you would expect you have a lot of time, and then in just two hours your house is completely gone. Damn.
Bogus is like "nerdy cute", whereas Lomo is like "I would make him wear a dress and rape him" cute -Turbovolver
The_Conclave
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Australia122 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-09 13:36:20
February 09 2009 13:31 GMT
#33
I live not far from Kinglake where over 20 people died. I can tell you I have never felt so little in all my life as I did on Saturday. Below is the worst picture:

http://www.news.com.au/gallery/0,23607,5037339-5006020-20,00.html

This was taken at one of two roads which lead outwards from the firefront at Kinglake. Unfortunatley he like many others took the path deemed safer and ended up stumbling into 50kmph firestorms racing to Whittlesea. The other path is what gives me so much distress about this photo. It is a section of road 20km+ long and stretches just as much as the great ocean rd. There is nothing around but trees and National park yet this day, It was the safest way out even though it meant racing through roads capable of averaging about 60kmph for the journey with no other way out for 20km.

They never saw it coming and when they finally did, death was like pouring boiling water down a occupied rabbit hole. To my family friend I am sympathetic towards your loss of house and car, to the man who lost his three kids I cannot imagine what it is like to see your whole world in a car and have it swooped in flames and I can only understand why you now are so badly burnt. Physical pain must have been nothing compared to watching your family die. Sorry. So very sorry.
To everyone else effected, rebuild, grow, and never forget.
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