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QuanticHawk
United States32161 Posts
On February 03 2009 23:59 Jibba wrote: My sister uses After Effects/Illustrator at her work and their new Macs get crushed by their 6-12 month older XP machines in performance. There's some comparable stuff, but this is like telling a gamer to buy a mac. Almost no one uses it for that. Macs are the industry standard for that kinda stuff | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 04 2009 03:00 Jibba wrote: Ah, I see the problem. There's two ways to access the Inspiron 13. The first one gets you your quote, the second gives you a $130 instant rebate and the 4 gigs + 250gb hd. Yeah, this is as close to what I got. I realized I misclicked when I ran the numbers. -_- | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
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Raithed
China7078 Posts
is better. LMAO. | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
On February 04 2009 00:34 BloodyC0bbler wrote: This is true, but most people don't know computers enough to build their own. Building a computer is pretty easy... you need some knowledge, but it basically amounts to: Knowing what parts are compatible (motherboard socket type, form factor, making sure you have at least one PCI Express x16 for the graphics card, your case is big enough for your graphics card) Getting a power supply that fits your needs. Knowing that buying bleeding edge is dumb, because you pay a premium for everything (bit of a personal opinion, also building it so you can salvage parts later is nice). Some very basic assembly skills (also, being very mindful of keeping your static sensitive electronics on cardboard or static free bags, not turning everything on with a screw between your motherboard and case that isn't secured, etc). Although I admit, part of what drives the cost down tends to be what you can salvage from past computers (monitors especially). Real issue is software costs an awful lot when it isn't bundled, but if you're a student you can probably get Windows/Office for cheaper through your university... or just wait for good OEM deals (or salvage, but it's unlikely you can if you haven't built your previous computers). http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=14609907 Here's a bare bones build that I recently made for my dad. I salvaged a dvd drive from my computer, and he had a monitor. Not much room for expandability, but eh. Add a middle of the road graphics card (note: generally you will probably need a bigger case than this, it just so happens that this one can fit pretty much any card) and a dvd drive, total comes up to around $550 bucks after shipping. Of course, there's still software to take into account... also this is a bit of a specialized build since the motherboard was built for the original Core 2 Duos, and it was updated for the newer ones (but you can't really be sure what bios you end up with). :> Anyways, point being, if you are willing to spend a bit more money than that you could get a really nice computer. I was browsing through what Dell offered the other day and I was kind of surprised at how poor their budget options were. Here's a good place to get started... gives a bit of a walkthrough of what to be looking for. And when in doubt, there's almost always someone who will answer your question.  http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=346008 But if you want to get Dell/Mac, get a Dell, and try to find online deals. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
here's a lenovo i'm considering buying right now: Core 2 Duo P8600 (2.4Ghz 1066MHz 3MBL2) Vista Business 64 15.4" WSXGA+ Mobility Radeon 3650 2GB 1066 DDR3 RAM (1 stick, gonna get another 2gb separately for a few extra bucks) Fingerprint reader 5300 Intel WiFi 9cell battery --------- 1350 CAD, free shipping What do the macbooks have that's close to this? 2149 macbook gets you marginally worse ram same processor quite better video card. and a 800 dollar markup? seriously? for that video card alone? Am I missing anything? | ||
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Scooter
United States747 Posts
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152073 Brand MSI Model GX630-028US Color Black w/ Red trim Operating System Windows Vista Home Premium //qq moare CPU Type AMD Athlon X2 QL-62(2.0GHz) Screen 15.4" WXGA Memory Size 4GB DDR2 Hard Disk 250GB Optical Drive DVD Super Multi Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT Video Memory 512MB Communication Modem, Gigabit LAN and WLAN Dimensions 14.73" x 9.69" x 1.05-1.40" Weight 5.6 lbs. CPU Type AMD Athlon X2 CPU Speed QL-62(2.00GHz) CPU L2 Cache 1MB Screen Size 15.4" Resolution 1280 x 800 GPU/VPU NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT Video Memory Dedicated 512MB HDD 250GB Memory 4GB Memory Spec 2GB x 2 LAN 10/100/1000Mbps WLAN 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Bluetooth Yes Webcam 2.0MP Battery 6-cell lithium ion best of all, the thing's only 800 bucks. I do heavy music editing/composing and programming and I feel much more productive doing those on a PC than a mac. My sister has a mac book pro and I just can't see why people hype up macs so much. Similar specs, vastly different prices. The interface in Mac doesn't bother me at all - anyone and their grandma can install tweakui or stardock or what have you to get the same or even better interface. People who say "it just works" have never tried Ubuntu, that shit is loaded with every driver in the universe. One of the reasons that Macs have such high peripheral compatibility is that there's so few peripherals that are made for macs. I can't really speak for video editors, but after playing around with both, I don't see why people argue that editing video is so vastly superior on a Mac when Adobe Premiere is available on windows, and when it's so much more cost efficient to get higher specs on said windows computer. As for editing music, I use Sonar Producer edition and it's simply amazing. Not only that, but all recording equipment/specialized soundcards are Windows compatible while the mac ones are usually more expensive and few and far between. tl;dr, Get a windows setup, there's no reason not to. Also the laptop I pointed out is fucking beast for being only 800 bucks. in the end, building a PC is the best way to go if you don't need a laptop. You can build a disgustingly good setup for a great price these days. I actually would recommend building a PC and using a Netbook (Samsung NC-10 or Asus eee) for your portable work. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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il0seonpurpose
Korea (South)5638 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
However, if it is just for fun/video games, get a dell. (I have both a mac laptop and a dell PC, mac for work, dell for starcraft/itunes/etc.) | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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joohyunee
Korea (South)1087 Posts
dell is nice for engineering/computer related works and such, where high CPU power is more important for faster usage than things looking nice and such (as is the case of macs).. btw Macs get RIDICULOUSLY nice benefits in terms of warranty - my friend's mac broke down once, she sent it to the repair shop, and they sent her a NEW macbook. getting a 2.2GHz instead of the 2.0 she sent them was an added bonus. | ||
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GunsofthePatriots
South Africa991 Posts
On February 04 2009 07:35 joohyunee wrote: depends on what it's for. I'm dying to sell my HP laptop right now b/c I want a mac, mainly for the garageband/recording applications, along with other musical customization possibilities/video editing that can be done nicely with macs. dell is nice for engineering/computer related works and such, where high CPU power is more important for faster usage than things looking nice and such (as is the case of macs).. btw Macs get RIDICULOUSLY nice benefits in terms of warranty - my friend's mac broke down once, she sent it to the repair shop, and they sent her a NEW macbook. getting a 2.2GHz instead of the 2.0 she sent them was an added bonus. They obviously don't sell much of that shit, so they have many laying around the warehouse all the time. + Show Spoiler + Kidding+ Show Spoiler + But really, Macs suck. | ||
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lazymej
Canada269 Posts
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uppTagg
Sweden473 Posts
Most of the ppl complaining about mac have never even tried one ;> Those who have on the other hand, generally recommend it. That's my experience atleast. I was worried about changing from windows when I bought the mac initially aswell, so I installed parallels to be able to run xp when I desperately needed a windows app. But in the end I never had to use it since the mac-apps are awesome once you find the right ones and OS X is just so much better than windows on so many levels, so I ended up uninstalling xp and parallels. Then ofc, if you wanna game then windows is your choice atm, not much to do about that. :< (I don't game on my laptop so I'm loving it) ^^ | ||
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ilovehnk
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
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