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getting XP shouldn't be considered a pro for the dell, since you can get it on the mac as well.
In terms of affordability, it really depends on what model dell you're looking at and which model mac you're looking at. the macbooks are very reasonably priced (i work in the computer department of a university bookstore, if anybody wants to debate this), though with the macbook pros you do end up paying a few hundred more for pretty much a larger screen and discrete graphics instead of integrated.
Another thing to consider is reliability. Like i said, i work in a computer store that also handles manufacturer warranty repairs, and we see very few macs back for repair compared to other companies. Especially considering apple is typically our number 2 seller by a fairly large margin over number 3. (number 1 is always fujitsu. VT engineering requires tablets and they reccommend fujitsus for some unknown reasons, and most kids just go with those. we see a *ton* of those back for repair about a year later when the batteries are completely shot).
My personal opinion is I would spend a little extra money for the mac because they really are solid machines, and they can pretty much do whatever it is you want them to do.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On February 03 2009 21:26 Scorch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 21:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 03 2009 20:54 Scorch wrote:
You can also run Windows on a Mac, so you can have both if you want. If you can afford it, that is. i have three buddies who are all abouts macs and they all run windows on their shiny macs they bought last year because every program they use requires windows except all three of them run like ass and bug out constantly (which they blame on microsoft) so it's basically like a terrible windows machine that cost $2300 and does everything shittier is that common No idea. Actually it should also work the other way round. I read that with lots of tinkering and half-legal stuff, it is possible to get Leopard to run on a PC.
i have no idea what leopard is
and yeah i'm asking because i really don't know much about macs (besides their god-awful approach to advertisement) and those three guys make up 100% of the people i know who run windows on a mac but it's entirely possible they just have no idea what theyre doing
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is awesome32274 Posts
On February 03 2009 21:41 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 21:26 Scorch wrote:On February 03 2009 21:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:On February 03 2009 20:54 Scorch wrote:
You can also run Windows on a Mac, so you can have both if you want. If you can afford it, that is. i have three buddies who are all abouts macs and they all run windows on their shiny macs they bought last year because every program they use requires windows except all three of them run like ass and bug out constantly (which they blame on microsoft) so it's basically like a terrible windows machine that cost $2300 and does everything shittier is that common No idea. Actually it should also work the other way round. I read that with lots of tinkering and half-legal stuff, it is possible to get Leopard to run on a PC. i have no idea what leopard is and yeah i'm asking because i really don't know much about macs (besides their god-awful approach to advertisement) and those three guys make up 100% of the people i know who run windows on a mac but it's entirely possible they just have no idea what theyre doing
Leopard is Mac's Operating System.
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2 of my friends have mac, and they both have windows installed on them. They use the mac OS for browsing the internet, email, word processing etc. Windows then for anything important (games)
Seriously, I have a dell laptop that cost €500, and it runs so much better than the mac that my friend has. Also, when I had a problem with it, I called up dell, and 16 hours later, a guy came to the house and fixed it. (Replaced a faulty cd/dvd drive) I've had no problems since.
My friend had to send his mac to the repair shop when he had a problem (the plastic cover was loose or something) and didn't get it back for 2 weeks. When it did come back, they hadn't even replaced the cover, just stuck it back on with some glue or something, and a month later he had the same problem. This time he just didn't bother fixing it because he can't go without a computer for 2 weeks, so its still broken.
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Russian Federation386 Posts
This thread full of Fail. Probably 90% of people who posted in it have no idea about Macs in general - it just hurts my eyes >_< How can you even give advice when you know nothing about the subject?
I'm not saying Mac is better or PC is better - both platforms have they pros and cons. If you could give us a list of what you are going to do with your new computer, I'd give you cons/pros of each. I have 10 years of experience with Macs and I use PCs (Windows) as well. So, post what you're gonna do with your purchase.
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Hey cool, I'm also trying to make a decision between a mac and a dell or lenovo. I am currently leaning towards Mac.
To get a Dell with similar performance as your Mac (assuming you get a original macbook, not the unibody one), you are looking at a price difference of maybe $300. But the Dell looks a lot uglier and it is definitely heavier.
Just a note, I do a lot of programming and haven't played a game other than SC for nearly five years.
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If you want to play games, there's practically no way around Windows. For almost all other common tasks (office, surfing, porn, software development etc.), any OS will do with only small pros and cons between them. So unless you want a Mac for the design and ease of use (which are great indeed), you can use a PC just as well and buy booze and whores for the price difference. On the other hand, the majority of Mac users seem to be convinced of their Mac stuff and don't want to change back. As for quality, repair and warranty, I have heard good and bad stories about both, so I guess you just need to get lucky either way.
I've never had a Mac and would like to try one out, but whenever I thought about it I came to the conclusion that it's just not worth the price for my purposes.
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Australia3316 Posts
Neither, never ever ever by a Dell, if you have to buy one stick with Windows.
EDIT: I thought it was funny at the time 
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On February 03 2009 22:51 Spenguin wrote:Neither, never ever ever by a Dell, if you have to buy one stick with Windows. EDIT: I thought it was funny at the time
heh... yah, stick with windows...
doesnt dell have ubuntu systems now?...
i wonder how much they support those..
just stick with the dell though... no need to pay for an overpriced laptop like a mac to play starcraft... esp when it doesnt have some of the needed things...
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If you do work with graphic design, music etc, get a mac. If you're concerned about $ and gaming, get a pc. simple as that
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Baltimore, USA22253 Posts
Yeah, we need to know what you're trying to do on it... I'm posting this reply on a macbook. I have a Dell PC in the bedroom. Both have their pluses, and to be honest, if you're a savvy enough user (read: non-retarded), to be honest, there really isn't THAT much of a difference between the two in terms of the use you can get out of them.
TBH I don't think most users in this thread have enough first hand experience with both to speak on it.
So yeah, it would help if you tell us what you're going to do with it.
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United States22883 Posts
On February 03 2009 21:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 20:54 Scorch wrote:
You can also run Windows on a Mac, so you can have both if you want. If you can afford it, that is. i have three buddies who are all abouts macs and they all run windows on their shiny macs they bought last year because every program they use requires windows except all three of them run like ass and bug out constantly (which they blame on microsoft) so it's basically like a terrible windows machine that cost $2300 and does everything shittier is that common
My roomate has Vista on his Macbook and I've seen it bluescreen about 4 times. My Vista install has been perfect, besides the time I decided to install a horrible piece of Sony software.
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Depends if you're looking for performance or trying to get the girl.
Personally, I'd go with the Dell PC just because it is cheaper, and has better performance (in general). Don't fear Vista, with a little bit of tinkering, you can make it less invasive and trim some of its fat.
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mac is too expensive, literrally ripping you off by at least 1k compared to a dell. there is nothing much you can do with mac except doing work, don't bother trying to play shit on mac. less support for mac, and whole virus issue is just negelible, unless you always dling unsafe shit, you almost never get virus if you visit safe sites.
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United States22883 Posts
On February 03 2009 23:18 Hawk wrote:
If you do work with graphic design, music etc, get a mac. If you're concerned about $ and gaming, get a pc. simple as that
My sister uses After Effects/Illustrator at her work and their new Macs get crushed by their 6-12 month older XP machines in performance.
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On February 03 2009 23:59 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2009 23:18 Hawk wrote:
If you do work with graphic design, music etc, get a mac. If you're concerned about $ and gaming, get a pc. simple as that My sister uses After Effects/Illustrator at her work and their new Macs get crushed by their 6-12 month older XP machines in performance.
And what are you comparing what with?
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Well...If you have 27k get the mac with all the best upgrades....
Seriously thou you might wanna narrow down the reasons of wanting to own the mac/dell. Then choose from there.
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And if you configure a Dell and Mac so they have the same specs, you will probably see that there isn´t much of a difference in price.
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