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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 20:05:18
February 06 2009 20:00 GMT
#121
On February 06 2009 17:29 MacWorld wrote:
Apple is outscoring Dell in every aspect in the education segment and specially in higher education.

These are Gartners (student monitor: computing and the internet) numbers from fall 2008:
of all student that intend to buy a latop next 12 months -
50% of them intend to buy a mac
21% a dell
14% a hp
4% toshiba
3% gateway
2% compaq

The numbers from 2005 were:
17% a mac
46% a dell

100% (give or take) of those who already own a mac intends to buy a knew mac next time.
64% of current dell-users plan to try a mac next time. Do you see a pattern? Do you understand what is happening?


Hello?! - where is the vision Dell? Where is the innovation? Where is the progress? Where is the creativity?
Post the actual study, Gartner is usually fucking retarded.

Gartner Prediction: Y2K Issues To Continue Throughout Year


By Kristen Kenedy
5:06 PM EST Tue. Dec. 28, 1999
From the December 28, 1999 issue of CRN Although most large companies and organizations have hammered out the most pressing Y2K issues, analysts at GartnerGroup Inc. said related problems will continue to dog the industry throughout next year.
In a conference call on Tuesday, GartnerGroup analysts said they are forecasting only a fraction of the expected errors to occur over the New Year's holiday weekend.

"We believe there will be minor infrastructure issues that will probably last a period of hours," said Matt Hotle, GartnerGroup vice president and research director. "But perhaps more substantial problems [will occur] in most businesses on Jan. 3 and 4 when they bring their systems back up. We think there will be problems but they will be solvable within three days after they are found."

As much as 55 percent of the expected Y2K related problems will be experienced across a 12- to 14-month period following the new year, Hotle said. Anticipated problems include software failures, hardware failures, supply chain problems and data corruption.

"Most companies realize this and have plans in place to follow it," he added.

The firm estimates that software renovation so far has cost organizations $300 billion to $600 billion worldwide.

Like most analysts, GartnerGroup believes the majority of large U.S. companies and organizations are prepared for the switch over to the year 2000. Fully staffed command centers responsible for administering and managing the flow of information are commonplace.

Possible immediate threats from viruses and hackers are being considered and plans implemented.

GartnerGroup analysts said organizations are controlling the flow of information in and out to stop hackers and viruses, and plans are in place to handle a higher number of possible viruses in the new year. But these issues still present a level of uncertainty.

"If we have 20 or 100 or more active viruses over a short period of time, that would be a considerable problem," said GartnerGroup Research Director Lou Marcoccio.

Criminal activity also is a consideration. "It's likely we will have at least one company that will have considerable losses due to this type of problem, even though the overall number will be pretty low," Marcoccio said. He stressed that most companies are taking actions to ensure these problems do not occur.

Analysts said the U.S. federal government is ready for Y2K. However, they noted trouble spots could occur with small state and local agencies. About one-third of local town governments are planning to finish their Y2K preparations on Dec. 31 and some will continue to work into 2000, analysts said.

Utilities, such as power, gas and oil companies, "have done exceptionally well," said Marcoccio, as have banks and financial institutions.

More than half of small businesses have completed efforts and done some level of testing, while the other 50 percent are not working on a fix because they believe they are not dependent on distributed systems, he said.

Among the international trouble spots to watch are Russia, other parts of the former Soviet Union, Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, smaller island nations and central and western Africa, according to analysts. But Marcoccio added that many of these countries routinely deal with telephone and transportation interruptions. "The risk of impact is significantly less in these countries, even though their compliance is behind," he said.

GartnerGroup has been following the potential Y2K problems since 1995. Researchers at the firm indicated they were eager to move on to new issues, and the Stamford-based company said it will not continue briefings in 2000.

Indeed, now that the Y2K crisis seems to be mostly over, Marcoccio said companies are looking toward e-business. "Most companies throughout the world are shifting all their resources and dollars into these areas as fast as they can as they wind down Y2K," he said.


Garnter is also the group that's predicting the mouse to be gone in 5 years.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 06 2009 21:02 GMT
#122
On February 06 2009 17:29 MacWorld wrote:
100% (give or take) of those who already own a mac intends to buy a knew mac next time.
64% of current dell-users plan to try a mac next time. Do you see a pattern? Do you understand what is happening?

As Jibba said, statistics are meaningless without any data on the actual study.

Besides, education statistics are heavily weighted toward the system thats more user-friendly and looks more appealing, which is going to be a Macintosh. For the uninitiated, Mac OS X is much easier to learn than Windows. No one has ever disputed that. However, buying/building a PC generally gets you more bang for your buck, and you generally have more freedom to tweak the system to your own liking than with Mac OS X.

On February 06 2009 17:29 MacWorld wrote:
Hello?! - where is the vision Dell? Where is the innovation? Where is the progress? Where is the creativity?

Innovation in computer technology doesn't come at the last step, where the seller is just providing bells and whistles and other bits and pieces that don't matter. Innovation comes in all the steps between, with the separate hardware components that both companies just scrape together into their machines,. Its not in Dell or Apple's hands to innovate (at least not hardware-side).
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
February 06 2009 21:38 GMT
#123
I'd put windows as a pro not a con! Anyway, unless you need the special stuff a mac can do I don't see why you'd get it since it's quite a bit more expensive for similar specs.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11556 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-06 23:36:42
February 06 2009 23:36 GMT
#124
On February 06 2009 17:29 MacWorld wrote:
Apple is outscoring Dell in every aspect in the education segment and specially in higher education.

These are Gartners (student monitor: computing and the internet) numbers from fall 2008:
of all student that intend to buy a latop next 12 months -
50% of them intend to buy a mac
21% a dell
14% a hp
4% toshiba
3% gateway
2% compaq

The numbers from 2005 were:
17% a mac
46% a dell

100% (give or take) of those who already own a mac intends to buy a knew mac next time.
64% of current dell-users plan to try a mac next time. Do you see a pattern? Do you understand what is happening?


Hello?! - where is the vision Dell? Where is the innovation? Where is the progress? Where is the creativity?


Those trends are only mirroring the stupidity of the average user. Everybody loves the expensive shit.

Apple's creativity ends at the aluminum outside that makes it awkward. I have a macbook pro 15 inch. It is not good. The multi finger touchpad is completely horrible. It works sometimes, and other times it just fails. The computer itself is also lacking, the USB ports are on the far left, and it makes a mouse awkward. The new aluminum case makes the original Apple projector thing incompatible because it requires a smaller one.

Overall, the computer gets 1:30 of battery life when I set it on lowest power usage settings, and everything. 1:30.

I'd say the only positives are the charging cord, and speakers.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 07 2009 03:11 GMT
#125
apple is plenty creative when it comes to patenting the next hot tech and preventing access to other companies.

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/16305
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
February 10 2009 07:27 GMT
#126
Those stats mean shit. How about this stat...
+ Show Spoiler +

99% of computer illiterate people buy premade comps be it MAC or PC.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
.Ix
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines266 Posts
February 10 2009 12:48 GMT
#127
The guy uses the name MACWORLD ffs. He's not gonna stop defending no matter what.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
February 10 2009 13:39 GMT
#128
This thread is LoL like any other Windows vs Mac discussion

Buy what you like most if you could pay for
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
February 10 2009 16:15 GMT
#129
On February 10 2009 16:27 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Those stats mean shit. How about this stat...
+ Show Spoiler +

99% of computer illiterate people buy premade comps be it MAC or PC.


did you know that 64% of statistics are made up on the spot?
MacWorld
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden227 Posts
February 10 2009 16:17 GMT
#130
On February 10 2009 21:48 .Ix wrote:
The guy uses the name MACWORLD ffs. He's not gonna stop defending no matter what.


The threadstarter asked WHY he would chose Mac instead of PC. Me and others gave our opinions on it. I don´t have to defend why I choose to Mac over PC. Eventhough I have a PC (which I built myself) I simply chose macos over windows (much because I´ve more or less quit gaming and now mainly use my computer for work, music and social media).
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 10 2009 17:31 GMT
#131
On February 11 2009 01:17 MacWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2009 21:48 .Ix wrote:
The guy uses the name MACWORLD ffs. He's not gonna stop defending no matter what.


The threadstarter asked WHY he would chose Mac instead of PC. Me and others gave our opinions on it. I don´t have to defend why I choose to Mac over PC. Eventhough I have a PC (which I built myself) I simply chose macos over windows (much because I´ve more or less quit gaming and now mainly use my computer for work, music and social media).

Wrong. He's asking which provider he should buy his hardware from. Because both OSs run on either hardware, which OS you prefer is largely irrelevant.
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MacWorld
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden227 Posts
February 11 2009 09:21 GMT
#132
On February 11 2009 02:31 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2009 01:17 MacWorld wrote:
On February 10 2009 21:48 .Ix wrote:
The guy uses the name MACWORLD ffs. He's not gonna stop defending no matter what.


The threadstarter asked WHY he would chose Mac instead of PC. Me and others gave our opinions on it. I don´t have to defend why I choose to Mac over PC. Eventhough I have a PC (which I built myself) I simply chose macos over windows (much because I´ve more or less quit gaming and now mainly use my computer for work, music and social media).

Wrong. He's asking which provider he should buy his hardware from. Because both OSs run on either hardware, which OS you prefer is largely irrelevant.


As there is now, OSx is not supported on any other hardware other than Apple:s. Apple will never freely support OSx on any other hardware other than their own. The reasons are simple, they want full control over how the software (OSx) works with the hardware, a combination which they know work optimal together. If you run OSx on your own chosen hardware you will not have any support or guarantee and when it comes down to portable computers most, if not everyone, want that.

For alot of people this is very importnant:
http://www.macworld.com/article/133293/2008/05/consumer.html
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