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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
January 21 2009 18:19 GMT
#1
I've been talking a lot eh...

Recent Game TvP I'm Fulcrum_Ks

I was wondering, like I played a game recently on iCCup (and I hardly play iCCup anymore), and my opponent complained about lag. My opponents from Bulgaria and I'm at Va. Tech so... I had lan latency on but I don't think he did, considering his anti-hack wasn't on. Even though I was way ahead towards the point of the game when I left. Couple questions however:

1. Lets say the lag was on my side, and I'm winning, do I deserve the win?
2. Would have lag-issues made a big difference in this game?



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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7102 Posts
January 21 2009 18:22 GMT
#2
I didn't watch the rep so I might be missing something, but lan latency does not work for either one of you if one of you does not have it on.

And lag should always affect both players so I don't see it being unfair for one of the players if you agreed to play on those conditions.
stet_tcl
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Greece319 Posts
January 21 2009 18:31 GMT
#3
The title is kinda misleading imo..

I never play ppl with no ah on iccup simply because of no lan lat. I find it unbearable

But generally this:

On January 22 2009 03:22 Puosu wrote:
And lag should always affect both players so I don't see it being unfair for one of the players if you agreed to play on those conditions.

Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
January 21 2009 18:48 GMT
#4
IMO if anyone joins your game without AH, you should auto-ban them. Problem solved.
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LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-21 19:10:08
January 21 2009 19:09 GMT
#5
Yes I agree with the poster above. Don't play with people without AH, nor with people that have AH on but LAN latency disabled.

* At the beginning of a game you can see if LAN latency is enabled.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3408 Posts
January 21 2009 20:08 GMT
#6
On January 22 2009 03:48 Sentenal wrote:
IMO if anyone joins your game without AH, you should auto-ban them. Problem solved.

That is what I do to
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
January 21 2009 20:15 GMT
#7
I sometimes don't use AH just to get chaoslauncher's apm alert on.
Is there any way to get this on ICCUP Launcher without installing another program?
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Hong Kong4685 Posts
January 21 2009 20:25 GMT
#8
On January 22 2009 05:15 redtooth wrote:
I sometimes don't use AH just to get chaoslauncher's apm alert on.
Is there any way to get this on ICCUP Launcher without installing another program?

Get Iccup into Chaoslauncher. Copy the iccscnb.icc file from the iccup program folder to the chaoslauncher folder. Rename the file to iccscbn.bwl.
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
January 21 2009 20:31 GMT
#9
LanLatency cannot remove lag. On the contrary it can cause lag. If the game lagged without it, it would have lagged with it. It just reduces latency at the price of potentially causing lag.

@TOP you can do that, but APM-Alert still won't be compatible with ICC-AH
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Lq_ fAn
Profile Joined June 2007
Lithuania154 Posts
January 21 2009 21:02 GMT
#10
On January 22 2009 05:25 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2009 05:15 redtooth wrote:
I sometimes don't use AH just to get chaoslauncher's apm alert on.
Is there any way to get this on ICCUP Launcher without installing another program?

Get Iccup into Chaoslauncher. Copy the iccscnb.icc file from the iccup program folder to the chaoslauncher folder. Rename the file to iccscbn.bwl.


you cant because anti hack will notice this as a hack

he said that both had ah but other player didnt have lan latency but you can cheat him by using lan hack but its unfair because if you set extra high latency you will play with lan and low latency while he will have like 2 sec lag at controling his stuff
b3h47pte
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States1317 Posts
January 21 2009 22:00 GMT
#11
According to iccup rules whoever leaves = loser which i think is ....not fair some times but most of the times it is
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 22 2009 00:22 GMT
#12
On January 22 2009 05:31 MasterOfChaos wrote:
LanLatency cannot remove lag. On the contrary it can cause lag. If the game lagged without it, it would have lagged with it. It just reduces latency at the price of potentially causing lag.

@TOP you can do that, but APM-Alert still won't be compatible with ICC-AH


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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
January 22 2009 01:29 GMT
#13
On January 22 2009 07:00 b3h47pte wrote:
According to iccup rules whoever leaves = loser which i think is ....not fair some times but most of the times it is


You can't rule out the chance for a comeback just because you have a substantial lead.

Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
January 22 2009 04:19 GMT
#14
Well if the game lags that badly enough that you or your opponent feel it is unplayable they should leave within the first 2 minutes. If it starts lagging badly after that it's a tough position but since you're both playing under the same lag I don't think you can argue it may have helped one of you more than the other. In reality perhaps one strategy didn't require as much micro so it did give one of you a slight advantage but that's just one of those things.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
January 22 2009 04:52 GMT
#15
Of course playing on non-LAN latency or lag gives advantages. If your used to playing strictly lagfree games on LAN latency and your opponent is used to playing non lan latency and with a lag in all his games that obviously favors the opponent.

I always just leaves if the game is non-lan or it lags, but as others have mentioned if the lags start in the midst of the game you just have to suck it up and play, unless you dont care about your points and rather wanna play quality games on LAN latency without lag.
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eth0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada208 Posts
January 22 2009 04:52 GMT
#16
On January 22 2009 05:31 MasterOfChaos wrote:
LanLatency cannot remove lag. On the contrary it can cause lag. If the game lagged without it, it would have lagged with it. It just reduces latency at the price of potentially causing lag.

@TOP you can do that, but APM-Alert still won't be compatible with ICC-AH


Is there any possible way to get an APM meter that doesn't conflict with the iCCup anti-hack? Aside from out-of-game ones, of course. They all run shoddy.
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
January 22 2009 04:58 GMT
#17
On January 22 2009 09:22 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2009 05:31 MasterOfChaos wrote:
LanLatency cannot remove lag. On the contrary it can cause lag. If the game lagged without it, it would have lagged with it. It just reduces latency at the price of potentially causing lag.

@TOP you can do that, but APM-Alert still won't be compatible with ICC-AH


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