This TvZ I played went on for about 25 minutes before the other guy paused for no apparent reason. I waited for 5 minutes, and then i couldn't wait any longer. I resumed the game and proceeded to kill all his shit in 5 minutes.
I knew that he probably went on a cursing rampage, but i was afk for the last minute or so b/c i decided to go use the restroom.
I looked at the replay, and he didn't say a word.
I then went into BWchart, and it said for the last 4 minutes or so of the game, his apm flat lined at 80. Is this supposed to be normal? I thought if u didnt do anything for 4 minutes, that your apm would hit zero...

clazziquai

6685 Posts

January 11 2009 00:10 GMT

Why would his apm hit 0 after for minutes?

It's actions per minute.
So probably after 25 minutes he had a certain amount of apm but if he didn't do anything for 5-10 minutes, his apm from the 26th to 35th minute would be 0, but the average apm would still be like a certain number, but definitely not zero =D

Equinox_kr

United States7395 Posts

January 11 2009 00:16 GMT

LOL maybe he thought it was like War3 where if he pauses he's the only person who can unpause so you would get frustrated and leave and he would get a free win ~_~

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 11 2009 00:16 GMT

Maybe he thought you would just leave and he would win that way.

Base

United States36 Posts

January 11 2009 00:16 GMT

BW chart will flatline your apm at the average if you don't do anything for an extended period of time, I think.

fanatacist

10319 Posts

January 11 2009 00:17 GMT

When people leave a game, their APM flatlines at the point at which they left (not average APM, and doesn't affect their average APM in BWchart). That's just how BWChart graphs it.

EDIT: Leave or go afk for extended periods of time*

overpool

United States191 Posts

January 11 2009 00:19 GMT

On January 11 2009 09:10 clazziquai wrote:
Why would his apm hit 0 after for minutes?

It's actions per minute.
So probably after 25 minutes he had a certain amount of apm but if he didn't do anything for 5-10 minutes, his apm from the 26th to 35th minute would be 0, but the average apm would still be like a certain number, but definitely not zero =D

You're implying that APM is graphed cumulatively, rather than instantaneously.

I've never used BWchart, but I don't think that's how it works. Graphing a function such as y=averageAPM(from 0 to x) would be less useful for analysis because APM fluctuations in the beginning would be far more apparent on the graph than at the end (surely you can see why).

Again, I've never used BWchart, so this is all speculation, but I think it would make more sense for it to graph "instantaneous" APM than average APM.

@op: Sounds more like some kind of bug/feature of BWChart to me.

imBLIND

United States2626 Posts

January 11 2009 00:28 GMT

ohh ok tyty

alphafuzard

United States1610 Posts

January 11 2009 01:05 GMT

Yeah, sometimes when I go into spamtacular mood in the beginning of the game, bwchart flatlines it at something like 200 apm, but I highly doubt I maintain exactly 200 apm for over 2 minutes.

Kinda odd about him pausing and leaving for so long. Most people would just say g2g and type out.

CharlieMurphy

United States22895 Posts

January 11 2009 01:26 GMT

#10

maybe it was an emergency I hope hes ok!

OneOther

United States10774 Posts

January 11 2009 01:26 GMT

#11

like the guy above sad, i am pretty sure APM is graphed instantaneously

meegrean

Thailand7699 Posts

January 11 2009 01:41 GMT

#12

Yeah, too many of my opponents pause for no reason. Retarded habit.

Liquid`Jinro

Sweden33719 Posts

January 11 2009 01:51 GMT

#13

On January 11 2009 09:16 Equinox_kr wrote:
LOL maybe he thought it was like War3 where if he pauses he's the only person who can unpause so you would get frustrated and leave and he would get a free win ~_~

Are you serious? Isnt that abused *all the time*?

ShinyGerbil

Canada519 Posts

January 11 2009 02:23 GMT

#14

[mythbuster]: nothing like this exists in war3, in case people were wondering. it would be way too abusive

fight_or_flight

United States3988 Posts

January 11 2009 02:42 GMT

#15

It would make more sense if the APM was calculated as a running average over the last x seconds...don't see why it would flatline.

SonuvBob

Aiur21549 Posts

January 11 2009 03:28 GMT

#16

It flatlines when they have no more actions in the replay, it's a bug I guess.

micronesia

United States24666 Posts

January 11 2009 03:32 GMT

#17

On January 11 2009 10:26 OneOther wrote:

Show nested quote +

like the guy above sad, i am pretty sure APM is graphed instantaneously

Neither this nor running average can be correct.

Like fight_or_flight said, it would have to be an average over a specific period of time. So, if it were working properly, in that case bwchart would show the guy's apm drop off with a downward concavity to zero. However, if that's not happening it might be a bug :-/

imBLIND

United States2626 Posts

January 11 2009 03:36 GMT

#18

To be honest, i thought the zerg i was playing was hacking....i was just wondering if obvilion causes this shit
my apm slowly fell towards 0 when i went afk, but his flatlined at 80 o.0

Julmust

Sweden4867 Posts

January 11 2009 08:46 GMT

#19

On January 11 2009 12:36 imBLIND wrote:
To be honest, i thought the zerg i was playing was hacking....i was just wondering if obvilion causes this shit
my apm slowly fell towards 0 when i went afk, but his flatlined at 80 o.0

well that's easy to find out. first was his AH on?

ambit!ous1

United States3662 Posts

January 11 2009 10:58 GMT

#20

On January 11 2009 11:42 fight_or_flight wrote:
It would make more sense if the APM was calculated as a running average over the last x seconds...don't see why it would flatline.

MasterOfChaos

Germany2896 Posts

January 11 2009 11:18 GMT

#21

APM is averaged over current time+- a delta.
But it probably only calculates the APM at the times where an action is. So after the last action of a player it could flateline.

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