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First off, I'd like to warn that this is a blog to bitch about something and ask for help. While compared to the other bitching threads I've seen this remains to be relatively unique, I warn now that, well, it still IS a blog of sorts to bitch about something.
So... My brothers are both bitchy little shits because they play the virtual-drug World of Warcraft. They're not polite about it, they're not reasonable about it. I've been torrenting nicely (read: when they're not playing), and thus having to stay up late to start my torrents (2am and on). Now, because I'm sure that at least a few people here are WoWfags themselves, I'm not sure as to whether or not I'll be getting any sympathy for this.
Well, imagine this. Your younger brother has shit for musical taste. I don't mean shit as in modern music (YOU CAN BE UNDER MY UMBRELLA ELLA ELLA EY EY EY), either. I mean techno. No, I'm not knocking on techno. I myself happen to like it. But that like is going to shatter itself like teeth biting the curb because of how he, your little brother, listens to it. His room is next to yours, and every night, he uses equipment (iHome --> 2.1 speakers) to listen to this "music" at unreasonable levels at such times as, say, 10pm-4am. This "music" and its "beats" (UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE in every song qualifies as beats, I guess) and the high volume that he plays them at gives you constant headaches that you have connected exclusively to his music. You listen to such things as black/death/metalcore and trance, which never introduced such symptoms of discomfort.
Recently, this younger brother has discovered your dad's new thousand dollar speaker system... Really now. You don't need a 5.1 system to listen to techno. While the techno is playing, you notice he's wearing those circumaural, noise-cancelling Bose headphones he bitched your mother into buying him the previous Christmas. Really now?
Then, you're asleep, torrenting in the peace of your wireless internet because you only torrent when unconscious. This time, it isn't annoying technofaggotry that awakens you, but instead an angry thinks-he's-hard youngest brother, who bitches and moans about how important Arena is without lag. You, who could not possibly care less, argue that it isn't your problem and that they have a plethora of replacement activities available at their disposal as opposed to this mind-rotting shitstorm of a game. What can you expect his argument to be? Surely something knowledgeable and simultaneously witty, no? "I DON'T GIVE A FUCK, JUST TURN OFF YOUR FUCKING DOWNLOADS SO I CAN FUCKING WOW OR I'LL BREAK YOUR FUCKING LAPTOP". Oh, so clever. But that's what you get when your parents spoil your younger brothers and let them do whatever they want... any time... and allow them to get what they want if they bitch enough... no matter what the circumstance.
Recall that you only torrent in your sleep to realize that, what the fuck? You were awoken from comfortable muscle-numbing slumber to be bitched at about a game they haven't even earned the right to play? Where is the sense in this? The justice? WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN HIS ARGUMENT?! Yes, he's stupider than the bowl of rice on your computer table and aspiring toward a future as a general practitioner (there's no way he's succeeding, by the way. When I say stupid, I mean stupid).
/second person.
I am at my wit's end. I have the worst tendency to tolerate just about everything (I'm somewhat of a yes-man in that regard... or is it called being submissive and weak?). Now, what I ask of you, people bored enough to read this, is a solution. A response to this socially deplorable behavior generated by some stupid repetitive subscription game. No, getting World of Warcraft uninstalled is not an option. My parents totally suck in that they near-instantaneously bend to whatever my little brothers ask for, so getting it back wouldn't be too hard, if at all difficult. And no, even though I could totally attempt it and ruin my future, killing them both for being giant douchebags is NOT an option. So, I ask of whoever is socially inept enough to have so little to do but reach this line (just kidding), are there any possible ways I can ruin their World of Warcraft playing experience that won't leave my computer on?
For those who might consider letting them continue on with this pathetic and yet socially unpunished addiction (why isn't pot legal if this shit can pass?), they're both academic failures and WoW isn't helping. I'm tired of being the mature one in this... with these two as my evidence, any and all WoW players without exception are automatically immature and mentally deficient. If Steven Hawking played WoW, I wouldn't care. He'd still be on the same level as a commonly littered candy wrapper to me.
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I hope you can get over my trying to sound smart with big words. I usually write like I talk, but then this shit happens...
  
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So terrible when people become utterly addicted to WoW, though it is particularly easy to do so in WoW's case, as opposed to other games (though I dunno about Testie and DotA!)
Your brother totally needs to go softcore on WoW.
Hardcore is a waste of his life.
Maybe he'll see it eventually....
HOLY SHIT I HAVE THE PERFECT SOLUTION
Find out his login, and when you're sure he's not at home/on WoW, go to somewhere with a distinctly different IP, sign on, and spam "WOW GOLD $19.99 WWW.BUYWOWGOLD.COM" in trade chat.
This can be achieved by going to any major city and typing /2 "insert message here"
It should say that you have joined trade chat channel. If he has set the number to something other than 2, it will show in the name of the channel. Should say [2. Trade ........]
It's sure to get his account tempbanned, though not permanently
It's a good way to force a WoW addict to spend a week off WoW!
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So they are younger than you? What are your ages respectively? I never had this problem as I always paid for the internet, and have. (post-56k days) had decent enough bandwidth for downloads not to effect latency.
One thing I have always found that have completely destroyed my brothers' enjoyment in games is by playing whatever they are playing and completely destroying them. This has worked with 99% of games we have ever played, they stop playing because they can't beat me.
I never intentionally did it to destroy their enjoyment though, just so happened that I have always been competitive and they just played for fun.
Although you can probably ignore the last paragraph as playing WoW is not an option.
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Spenguin
Australia3316 Posts
Just figure out their login and stuff their shit up, I'd recommend a massive dump on there account.
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lol Ethereal Death, that's actually a really good idea. The hard part would be figuring out their login information, though. My locator IP that I saw with Rainmeter says I'm in LA, so finding a "distinctly different IP" shouldn't be too hard, but what's the point in that??
Energies: I'm 18, they're 17. We all live at home with our parents. My bandwidth is so narrow(right word?) that even downloading off xdcc bots in IRC gets them to take the walk to my room and complain about the lack of bandwidth. And I don't really think that being able to destroy them at WoW would do anything, seeing as I would hardly be playing with them. They have their own friends... parties... groups and whatnot.
Spenguin: That works too, but I have no idea how to get their info.
The computers they play on are both accessed with limited accounts. My dad probably thought ahead far enough to not allow them to haphazardly install things, but this also gets in the way in case I would need to install anything... if that matters.
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Hypnosis: wat? O.o epics? like the items? How do i delete items?
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just get your little brother to download stuff for you so he can turn it off during his thing and then back on when he's done. you don't need to be unreasonable.
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Messing with their accounts won't solve anything, Blizzard will retrieve their items/gold for them. I got over WoW because work and life took over my game playing time plus the game was getting really boring towards the end of TBC, although with the new expansion they won't get bored anytime soon, and you said they are academic rejects so they obviously have a lot of time.
Only thing I could think of dude is to somehow inadvertently get them involved in another game(s). Besides that I'm not really sure. Maybe speak to your parents on the by and mention that your retarded brothers are wasting their life and failing school because of their time spent with video games.
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On December 21 2008 18:26 Energies wrote:
Messing with their accounts won't solve anything, Blizzard will retrieve their items/gold for them. I got over WoW because work and life took over my game playing time plus the game was getting really boring towards the end of TBC, although with the new expansion they won't get bored anytime soon, and you said they are academic rejects so they obviously have a lot of time.
Only thing I could think of dude is to somehow inadvertently get them involved in another game(s). Besides that I'm not really sure. Maybe speak to your parents on the by and mention that your retarded brothers are wasting their life and failing school because of their time spent with video games.
True Blizz will recover their stuff for them, but for a week they will be off WoW. MAYBE, with any hope, a better source of entertainment will be discovered (maybe find what they are missing out on?) Unless the guy is a hardcore raider that is...then it won't work.
On December 21 2008 18:16 xxsaznpride wrote:
lol Ethereal Death, that's actually a really good idea. The hard part would be figuring out their login information, though. My locator IP that I saw with Rainmeter says I'm in LA, so finding a "distinctly different IP" shouldn't be too hard, but what's the point in that??
Energies: I'm 18, they're 17. We all live at home with our parents. My bandwidth is so narrow(right word?) that even downloading off xdcc bots in IRC gets them to take the walk to my room and complain about the lack of bandwidth. And I don't really think that being able to destroy them at WoW would do anything, seeing as I would hardly be playing with them. They have their own friends... parties... groups and whatnot.
Spenguin: That works too, but I have no idea how to get their info.
The computers they play on are both accessed with limited accounts. My dad probably thought ahead far enough to not allow them to haphazardly install things, but this also gets in the way in case I would need to install anything... if that matters.
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Hypnosis: wat? O.o epics? like the items? How do i delete items?
keylogger is gg.
Oh, and to delete their items, just hold while clicking on it in their inventory or character screen (default is B for their first bag, then u gotta click the others, and C for character screen, but I change my own keys to better suit playstyle so......) and then drag it to somewhere on the screen that is not part of the interface. Then it will ask you to type in DELETE, and it goes from there....
But really that won't do much for forcing a temporary break off WoW as much as making it seem like they are gold advertisers, which actually results in a ban until the situation is resolved. Oh, and by different IP, i just mean anything that's not making it clear you live in the same place they do. Maybe a library will do, or anywhere you can get public WiFi.
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Use your router to block WoW. I doubt he will ever figure that out.
Usually routers have an IP like 192.168.0.1, there should be some options to block stuff once you access it.
Btw, older brothers always win in fights, no matter how much bigger he is than you. So you could just beat the crap out of him.
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is discussing this with your parents an option? say that their incessant playing and listening to music is disrupting your academic pursuits and will cause your grades to slip as well.
or get a job and move out.
or get into a university away from home preferably with a scholarship, or with your parents bank rolling it. I am assuming you are in the 12th grade, is this accurate?
are you stronger/ more athletic than they are? or at least one of them is?
have you tried saying that they will be a disgrace forever for still being virgins when they turn 18?
which email was used upon registration of game? and can you obtain said email's password?
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I got in a fight with the music one once. After it all, he was talking to my cousin about it and said he kicked my ass. In truth, I was telling him to not fight me the whole time (he got pissed I called him "emo" which kinda proves itself...). It ended with him in a one-arm headlock and my other hand was holding both of his wrists so he couldn't do anything. G-fucking-g, imo.
On December 21 2008 19:13 Etherone wrote:
is discussing this with your parents an option? say that their incessant playing and listening to music is disrupting your academic pursuits and will cause your grades to slip as well.
or get a job and move out.
or get into a university away from home preferably with a scholarship, or with your parents bank rolling it. I am assuming you are in the 12th grade, is this accurate?
are you stronger/ more athletic than they are? or at least one of them is?
have you tried saying that they will be a disgrace forever for still being virgins when they turn 18?
which email was used upon registration of game? and can you obtain said email's password?
No. We're all on break right now. And even then, they really just don't care. Only times my parents do anything are when it could get the cops called on our house.
I don't have a job, can't drive, and I'm a college freshman.
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If I keylogged, would that involve installing WoW and all its patches on my laptop for the sake of logging into it somewhere else? This thing's HD is already full. But... whatever it takes... I want to completely... hinder their self-destructive behavior.
I can definitely take either of them 1v1. Those kids don't exercise or anything. 2v1 would be such a bitch, though, and by then I'd have to pull cheap shit (ie: not hesitate just because they're relatives) like... start carrying hidden knives around the house again.
They are actually both more socially capable than I am. This point doesn't work =\
and I have no idea as to what eMail and whatever extra info was used. I had/never wanted anything to do with their WoW affairs.
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On December 21 2008 17:07 xxsaznpride wrote:
If Steven Hawking played WoW, I wouldn't care. He'd still be on the same level as a commonly littered candy wrapper to me.
You could still claim that only retards play wow, so you'd be fine.
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You can open wow over a network, meaning you can just share their wow folder on their computer, access it from yours via the network and just run the game. But judging from some of the comments your family seems a bit messed up. If the situation is that bad, might I suggest just planting drugs on them?
Surely your parents would respond to that.
But your best option is to get a crappy part time job, even if it's once a week, get enough money to hook up your own internet connecting. If you already have cable you can get ADSL with your phone line or just get a second cable line, it isn't that expensive.
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It isn't so much that my family is messed up as that my parents are INCREDIBLY lax with them to the point of spoiling. Besides, they say not to do drugs and to only drink over 21, but they've driven all of us to parties and stuff, and somewhat encourage that kind of thing without saying it out loud. They've both already professed to being the "popular" types in high school... roughly the late 70's, early 80s... so I hardly doubt they'd be overly punitive if that kind of thing were found.
Kinda sad... but it also means we have no curfew.
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Obv log onto his account via blizz website and free his times he can play. Turn on some parental control.
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
turn off upload completely while torrenting. that shit creates the most lag while playing a game. i hate when my older brother does that shit 24/7 when i tried to play cs back in the days. if it's just download and not at the maximum speed that your plan offers then it should be fine.
also complain to your parents that the bandwidth is not enough for three people so get faster internets mang
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Actually you could just download some random viruses onto his computer. That would really fuck him up.
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On December 21 2008 20:28 Fontong wrote:
Actually you could just download some random viruses onto his computer. That would really fuck him up.
Is there some specific technique to this or... Virus r Us?
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HAHA
"black/death/metalcore" fan insults other peoples music taste... ah such irony is life.
I read some books written by psychologists who through studies realized that young men who listen to rebellious music do so because they are struggling to find an identity in a world that intimidates them. "Heavy" guitars and drums provide the illusion of strength and confidence, traits that are admired in adult males in society.
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a cd with "bad ass" music on it doesnt make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and theyll magically make you see.
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On December 21 2008 21:02 ForVengeance wrote:
HAHA
"black/death/metalcore" fan insults other peoples music taste... ah such irony is life.
I read some books written by psychologists who through studies realized that young men who listen to rebellious music do so because they are struggling to find an identity in a world that intimidates them. "Heavy" guitars and drums provide the illusion of strength and confidence, traits that are admired in adult males in society.
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a cd with "bad ass" music on it doesnt make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and theyll magically make you see.
Way to miss the point and look like a complete idiot about it.
Doesn't the loud music blasting annoy your parents? I struggle to imagine how parents can be this lax about their kids. Since you can take them in a fight and you more or less have the moral high ground, I won't hesitate to just forget your reservations and mess with their games/shout back at them and make a huge fuss about it.
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On December 21 2008 21:02 ForVengeance wrote:
HAHA
"black/death/metalcore" fan insults other peoples music taste... ah such irony is life.
I read some books written by psychologists who through studies realized that young men who listen to rebellious music do so because they are struggling to find an identity in a world that intimidates them. "Heavy" guitars and drums provide the illusion of strength and confidence, traits that are admired in adult males in society.
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a CD with "bad ass" music on it doesn't make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and they'll magically make you see.
This really isn't helpful. In any way whatsoever. Whoopty fucking do, you know how to read. Too bad you can't spout that bullshit where it matters. Oh wait, I'm talking like I have the illusion of confidence, aren't I? Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, just because someone likes a particular style of music, that they aren't necessarily examples of the stereotypes that accompany that genre? It's four-mother-fucking-fifteen in the fucking morning, my brother's anything-but-good techno is giving me a headache. I'm trying to drown it out with switches between Sakamoto Maaya, All That Remains, and this commercial about men with small cocks.
So what if I listen to Sakamoto Maaya. She's a gifted songstress with a melodic voice, multiple stylistic presentations, bilingual discography, and is completely unique amidst the sea of generic-sounding J-pop singers and voice actresses. What? Are you going to tell me that I'm a submissive pussy for listening to someone who's... I don't know more gentle and harmonic in sound?
Or is All That Remains something that totally depicts my true self? This being metalcore, the singer (who's name I forget... LaPonte?) has amazing screechy highs and, surprisingly, guttural lows that I enjoy. Am I some kind of naive hopeful because I like the lyrics? Or am I pretending to be strong like their sound? There's no way whatsoever that I could just like them for the sake of liking them, right?
But come on boys, it's year 2008. We all know that reading a book doesn't make you a fucking genius just because you read it, right? Might as well just live in a library with coke-bottle reading glasses. Or, if you are illiterate, learn Braille and it'll magically make you read.
For someone who professes to be so knowledgeable as yourself, you seem to have problems with basic punctuation, which I fixed for you in that trite little passage you so wished to share (that I'm only responding to because it's so God damn annoying when people say every fucking person who listens to metal has to, beyond a reasonable doubt, be some rebellious fagot.
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[The small/big penis commercial started out looking like a girls gone wild... so no comment.]
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Maaya Sakamoto's freaking awesome, btw.
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Belgium9947 Posts
On December 21 2008 21:02 ForVengeance wrote:
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a cd with "bad ass" music on it doesnt make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and theyll magically make you see.
You think they know that? They play a game where a fucking scroll can give you strength..
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On December 21 2008 21:30 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2008 21:02 ForVengeance wrote:
HAHA
"black/death/metalcore" fan insults other peoples music taste... ah such irony is life.
I read some books written by psychologists who through studies realized that young men who listen to rebellious music do so because they are struggling to find an identity in a world that intimidates them. "Heavy" guitars and drums provide the illusion of strength and confidence, traits that are admired in adult males in society.
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a cd with "bad ass" music on it doesnt make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and theyll magically make you see.
Way to miss the point and look like a complete idiot about it. Doesn't the loud music blasting annoy your parents? I struggle to imagine how parents can be this lax about their kids. Since you can take them in a fight and you more or less have the moral high ground, I won't hesitate to just forget your reservations and mess with their games/shout back at them and make a huge fuss about it.
You'd think so. It's on right now giving my left ear drum a reason to commit suicide. I literally just walked in there to turn it down, and less than five minutes later it's back up to such a point where that annoying bass is throbbing in my head. At first, they (my parents) had the balls to at least regulate how loud it got at night, but now, it's only my who's doing it by walking in at some deathly morning hour for the sake of not going deaf.
Honestly, I would love to, LOVE to break faces. The only problems here are that a) those two would make me go overboard and do something I'd actually regret (ruining my future), b) my parents would side with them no matter how obsequious I've been to them all this time, no matter how inane and immature their arguments, no matter how annoying they actually get. And even if I were to break into part a, such actions are far from being in my character. Contrary to my musical taste (like that idiot stated), I'm not a confrontational person. Never have been. Hell, I almost didn't get to go to my high school Grad Night party last year. One of my friends had to call for me so I could go.
As such, I've resigned myself to something somewhat more passive... physically.
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To someone from earlier (sorry I didn't copy/paste your name): Trying to be rational with those two is like trying to mix water with oil. Damned impossible. Asking them to download things for me... well look at the oil/water thing. I'm very willing to bet that, if I saved either one of their lives in a situation where it was "I save them or they die" (one or both of them), that a day later, things would go back to how they were. Maybe I'd have a chance with the one that woke me up to yell FUCK at me 50 times... maybe. But the little technoviking is already so incorrigible, ungrateful, and spoiled that he would bitch and moan his way into everything he wanted all over again.
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Somehow, I can say all this stuff to a bunch of anonymous people, but not to the people I should be saying it to. Actually... no... I take that back. I've fucking TRIED to reason to my parents that WoW (and that technoshit) are detrimental to their health and academic well-being. Their deal with my brothers was that they'd pay the subscription costs if they maintained C's-or-higher on their report cards Well, as far as I know, one has four Fs incoming, and the other... well I kind of just assume he's not doing so well. I don't think I've actually seen them doing homework all semester.
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So reason fails, and you eliminate any form of violence. That really leaves sabotaging the games somehow or shouting back without actually being violent (doesn't sound like it'll work according to your description though). I would really advocate good long talks with the parent in most such cases but it does sound like your parents are not particularly reasonable on this front.
What I mean by shouting back...hmm say the yelling one comes in again and tells you to turn off the torrent or he'll break your laptop or something...try not complying? They basically think they can boss you around because you aren't the confrontational type, so if you suddenly starting raging at them maybe they'll shape up a little. If he does try to do something to your ware, you have the perfect reason (in addition to your extremely established moral highground) to retaliate.
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You should try having a serious talk with your parents. Even if you somehow killed WoW they could just find something else to get hooked on. Your parents need to stop being so useless and sort their kids out.
Well I say that, but the case with my siblings was quite different.They were addicted to a mmorpg once, my dad would shout at them if they spent an unreasonable amount of time playing it. But he's not always home and my mum spoils everyone too much so they still played far too much. Since they weren't slipping academically (school is too easy at their age anyway) she didn't really do anything about it.
Eventually the game was buggered up by its own developers. They updated their shitty invasive anti-hack which caused the game to stop working on our computers. Since me and my dad are the only ones who are good with computer stuff there was no one to fix it and they had to stop playing.
So with their huge time-sink gone they just had to go do homework, go outdoors, play their musical instruments more, etc. Basically removing the game(-addiction) improved their lives.
It's not good to spend an excessive amount of time on anything, but mmorpgs encourage binge gaming the most so if they ever get hooked again I'll be willing to kill their habit in some way or another.
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On December 21 2008 21:47 xxsaznpride wrote:
Their deal with my brothers was that they'd pay the subscription costs if they maintained C's-or-higher on their report cards Well, as far as I know, one has four Fs incoming, and the other... well I kind of just assume he's not doing so well. I don't think I've actually seen them doing homework all semester.
If this is the case, they should get a report card / update during christmas, right? All you need to do in that case, is to suck it up for a few more days untill the results are in, and your problems should be solved, depending on wether or not your parents are up to their word.
If not, keylogging should at least slow them down a bit. Just get onto their computers whenever they're not home, and google 'wow keylogger'. Something should show up that'd infect the comp sooner or later. Alternatively, google 'wow gold sales' and see if there's anything downloadable on those sites.
If not, tell them that only bottomfeeding newbs do Arenas outside primetime. Tell them to stick to leeching battlegrounds, because they're obviously not qualified for Arena gear if they have to abuse the system by doing their Arena games at the time they avoid competition. >.>
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I really don't think you should blame this on wow.
If things are as you say, they sound like complete douchebags, if someone was to behave like that in our house, or in any of my friends, they would get their asses kicked.
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Dude I feel for you but man.. WoW addictions are really hard to break though. You're probably better off getting your own internet maybe?
Well maybe that's not really an option to you if you're kinda tight on cash but oh well. I guess sometimes we gotta learn to live with assholes.
But I think that for them to kill the WoW desire in them is for them to make that decision.
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On December 21 2008 22:14 onnings wrote:
If not, tell them that only bottomfeeding newbs do Arenas outside primetime. Tell them to stick to leeching battlegrounds, because they're obviously not qualified for Arena gear if they have to abuse the system by doing their Arena games at the time they avoid competition. >.>
One of them, the laptop-breaker, is still playing WoW RIGHT NOW. It's 5:30am here... Well, you might be wondering why I'm awake, but that's just because in the first 3 days of my winter break, I already fucked up my sleep schedule. Anyway, the one playing right now, last I remember, topped in Zangermarsh arena at 1750-1800 range. Whenever I talk to him about it... he's always bitching about not going higher because his teammates (2v2, 3v3, 5v5) always suck. And I kid you not about this, either. He literally has not said a single bad thing about himself playing WoW AT ALL... no matter how many times I've approached him to watch Arena... a) it's not really exciting, b) if he dies, he has some bullshit excuse like "WHERE'S THE HEAL" when even I could tell the healer was dealing with someone else or lagspiking to high heaven.
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Serious talk with my parents? HAH!! I scoff at the thought of being reasonable with those two. A long, long time ago, in a galaxy (primary school) far away, there was a damn school project. To build a map of the Mexican-Californian missions. I didn't do this project because I straight up didn't feel like it, lied about it to my parents when they found out there was a project (lulz I said it was extra credit and they went with it without questioning me further... hell my mom only asked once at all), and thusly failed 4th Grade History. What happened? I got grounded for a month. That's a really big thing, being grounded for a month, especially in a time where Pokemon, Zelda OoT, and other such things were insanely popular. Anyway, I was banned from watching TV, playing on our N64, using our computer (not that we had anything to do on there at the time... Neopets didn't start 'til a few years later), and had to do nothing but read... well anything punishment-worthy, and who the hell likes reading in the fourth grade?
To this day, I have no idea as to whether I was abiding by the set punishment or if my parents were actually maintaining said punishment, but for a whole month I bore with it. I stuck it out like a good little bitch and indulged myself in games after. Later, my brothers (both of them) faced a similar punishment. I don't actually remember WHY it was that they were punished, but they were reprimanded with electronic exile (I just wanted to use that because it sounded cool). I think that, by this time, we had started playing RuneScape, which I'm sure everyone has heard of at least once. I was watching TV one day with my parents while across the room those two hellions were playing RuneScape (or something I'm sure they weren't supposed to be doing). I whisper to my mom sitting on the couch, "aren't they supposed to not be playing because they're grounded?" I wasn't asking so much because they were grounded, but more because I wanted them spanked for it (we were spank-kids... best way to raise a kid is with a belt, after all). What does my mom say? Guess. Well... because I'm so TOTALLY SURE that you're stumped, she said very casually and with a regular indoor voice, "Oh, well you have to be lenient." That's the gist of it. Leniency? Where the fuck was my leniency, you hypocritical bitch?
In any case, with this and how my parents have been treating the three of us the last few months (which I won't bother to go into because it'd just be a lot more bitching and moaning), I'm sure - positively, absolutely sure - that, even if I sat them down and had a long heart-to-heart conversation with them about all this, that it would start out with them acquiescing to my request, followed by those two somehow nulling out any possible united front my parents built based on our srs bizniz discussion, those two going back to how things were for them before, my parents following up this behavior by drowning themselves even FURTHER in their appeasement policies (anyone remember how "appeased" Hitler was before he started raping face?), and me drowning in a shithole even deeper than the one I had to live with prior to any deep action.
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As I type in this thread, I realize more and more two things. The first is how truly fucked up a person I am (there's more than just this bullshit sprinkled atop everything). Any and every person I know can name me as their weirdest acquaintance (not funny weird like I'd hope, but straight up weird weird). A few already do. The second is how much I don't fit in this family. My mom and dad are both college graduates (dad from U. of the Philippines, mom from some Flip college and again from an American CC, I believe). My brothers are both destined-to-fail douchebags who seem to think that they can make a way for themselves in college despite (what appear to be) irreparable academic and social habits. Based on my observations... 1) they work one minute for every hour playing WoW (exaggerated, but, well...); 2) the technofag has no friends. I've actually befriended old friends of his who have explicitly testified as to how much of a total bitch he was. These same friends told me that the friends he hangs out with now have nothing but bad things to say about him whenever he comes into conversation... no offense to the rest of you, but maybe this is why he's a technofag now; 3) they both act differently in front of their peers (not gonna bother with details here).
Where am I in all this? I'm an apathetic, self-degrading, inferiority-complex-toting, unmotivatable (why isn't this a word?) college freshman who only actually studied during his chem finals not for his own sake, but because other people told him he had to buckle down. I haven't given a rat's horse-penetrated ass about school in God knows how long. My parents used to say I was smart, that they had "big plans" for me. Yeah, my ass any of that's going through. Any money you have for big plans for me is being funneled into those assholes' WoW subscriptions anyway. And even if it weren't, they never started a fucking college fund for me anyway.
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Well, I admit that WoW MAY not be the primary cause for this, but those two are so egocentric that it's probably infected the game and become a medium for them to bitch the world into what they want. And as for killing their own addiction... I'd say that comparable to this would be an intense alcohol addiction, a downward spiral leaving loved ones in their wake. Though not remotely as severe because of what's being... consumed, in either case, an intervention would be in order wouldn't it?
edit: in an attempt to drive this massive bitch-fest of a post back on topic... solutions thus far
1) Keylogging -> remote access to rape their items
2) Serious talk with parents about addiction (riiiiiiiiiiight)
3) Kill them and do an AMAZING job cleaning up (I don't have the supplies, so this'd be impossible =\)
4) Keylogging -> temp ban via real-life-item-trading spam
5) Maaya Sakamoto is indeed, insanely amazing. She's a solution, dammit!!
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Wait, if you said they're failing and your parents will stop paying for subscription can't you just wait?
And are you sure they won't retaliate if you do something to their life game.
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MrHoon
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I played WoW since beta, vanilla then to BC, then I quit, then I came back, then I quit, then I came back for a week then I quit. You know what allowed me to quit the game?
Blizzard
Your only hope is that the wow developers will make another stupid decision dumbing down the game even more until you feel like you have been robbed from what you actually liked, therefore quiting.
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Wow sounds like you have it really tough. Whatever happened to just beating your little brother up when ever he angered you...
Shit I used to do it all the time, he was too scared to tell on me too.
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Netherlands19133 Posts
All you WoW haters are so pathetic, and I don't even play the game.
Bunch of 10 year olds, huk. If someone would do something to my chars or account if I'd play it it I would seriously fuck you up with something you cared about alot as payback. I mean seriously, keep to your own shit or sort it out in a normal adult way or distance yourself from it if it's bothering you so much. If people don't want to be helped, you can't do anything about it.
I live with a housemate who's been insanely addicted to WoW for 4 years now orso and threw away his whole life and university education and future for it. We tried pretty much everything to get him off it, even notifying his parents and have forced counseling for him. Just nothing works. If people are not ready and willing to help themselves, you won't get it done. That I can pretty much guarantee.
Now keep your hands on your own shit plz.
Holy crap you WoW haters are as pathetic where the topic is concerned as the players themselves.
Grow up.
The WoW addiction is obviously the result and way they express some other emotional/mental default or inner struggle. Everyone I know kicked the habit when they got work/study/girlfriend/something that mattered or was interesting to do or they healthily combined their interests without expense at their socially relevant activities. Everyone except my housemate and he's obviously heavily depressed about other reasons, same goes for another guy I know.
For the people that go all nolife on it it's just a way of escape from responsiblity and the confrontation with reallife issues and their problems. It provides a way of life where they can act however they want without any real responsibilities or having to face their own defaults or fights.
Solve the source problem, not the way it expresses itself.
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Sydney2287 Posts
I think you are tolerating too much. Your brother needs to learn that it's not only him that uses the connection.
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So let me get this straight - you're mad because your brother has a real use for bandwidth while you're trying to illegally obtain software. Grow up, and get your priorities straight.
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you can limit your DL speed while it downloads so you can download 24/7 instead of only while he's asleep, also punch him in the face 5 times, i don't see what you have to fear
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Have them turn on your torrents for you when they are finished for the night. That way you won't have to stay up late waiting for them to finish.
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On December 22 2008 02:47 Vedic wrote:
So let me get this straight - you're mad because your brother has a real use for bandwidth while you're trying to illegally obtain software. Grow up, and get your priorities straight.
You evidently cannot read. That, or you cannot comprehend words that you read. The worst option would be that you are incapable of intelligent thought, but I won't accuse anyone of that lightly.
His brothers believe that they are the only ones who rightly deserve usage of the family bandwidth. His brothers blast loud music at night with no consideration for others. His brothers threaten to ruin their own lives with their addiction, and his brothers threaten to break his laptop if he doesn't comply and give up his usage of bandwidth. I cannot imagine the kind of mind that will identify what you just identified as the main issue.
Nyvone put it strongly, but I'll mostly agree. I suggested the account messing thing with reluctance as well, but I would try as hard as possible to resolve the problem at its causes. I don't really believe your parents are incorrigible, soft hopeless parents as you make them out to be, nor do I really believe your brothers are one hundred percent selfish bastard with zero regard for anything that isn't WoW. You do need something drastic to actually catch their attention, which is why I suggested showing some anger or shouting back yourself, but you should always be seeking to address the cause of the problem.
tl;dr, shout at them, don't do what they tell you to do, and see what they can do about it.
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On December 21 2008 21:02 ForVengeance wrote:
HAHA
"black/death/metalcore" fan insults other peoples music taste... ah such irony is life.
I read some books written by psychologists who through studies realized that young men who listen to rebellious music do so because they are struggling to find an identity in a world that intimidates them. "Heavy" guitars and drums provide the illusion of strength and confidence, traits that are admired in adult males in society.
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a cd with "bad ass" music on it doesnt make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and theyll magically make you see.
Damn! You smart!
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Man what is this world going to when you can't just beat the shit out of your little brothers for trying to talk up to you
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Blocking wow with the router sounds like a sound idea 
alternatively get a girlfriend and screw her very loud every night until your bother feels like a complete loser
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go on his account and press either o or n (i forget) and open his character sheet. drag one of the items in his 14 slots of his character off that dialog box you opened and it will ask if you really want to delete it. press ok. im gonna warn you though he will really really really really get madand will hurt you afterwards.
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Nyvone: I honestly can't tell if you read anything or not. But, since it looks like a serious post, I'll reply in kind.
It's not that I hate the game itself. Hell, I acknowledge it for how much it's put the gaming industry in a positive light... or at the very least in how much it's gotten people to start gaming. The whole point of this thread was to bitch about how because of WoW (and techno...), my brothers were pissing me off and how I wanted to get back at them by sabotaging their most valued possessions (they really don't have anything else important besides WoW). I don't care about whether or not they ruin their lives. For all I care they can die and I'd only be relieved about freedom of bandwidth, increased budget priority from my parents, and... well maybe I could expand my bedroom.
Bockit: I wish it were that easy.
Vedic: You're calling WoW a real use of bandwidth? And whoever said I was pirating software in the first place? You're automatically connecting the use of bittorrent trackers to software piracy. I download and seed my anime as much as I can... and upon occasion music.
My priorities ARE straight. They're straighter than they were all of first semester. Now that I'm on break, I'm indulging myself.
Uriel: Haaaaah shouting is so out of character for me.
And I really, honestly hope you're right about my parents. The thing there is... I'm pretty sure that at this point they ARE. When Wrath of the Lich King came out Thursday night, my mother actually drove my brother to a midnight release at some GameStop.
Even if I were to, I don't know, "get angry" (which I have about other things before... albeit mostly lesser things), my parents wouldn't do shit about it. In all these instances where a) I was angry and b) one of my brothers were involved, they always took their side. Fuck them, there's no reasoning possible at this point.
Divinek: I wish I were that kind of brother... too late now. It wouldn't be seen as "natural behavior" so much as me "lashing out uncontrollably".
Redbluegreen: I actually thought of messing with the router... things like limiting bandwidth for WoW and whatever. Only problem is that my dad passworded that thing and I have no idea what it is (anymore).
Hypnosis: They're supposed to not know it was me =D
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At the outset, I think it's incredibly ironic that you trash WoW players and Techno fans in one breath and then so fiercely defend your own interests when met with similar idiotic generalisations in the next.. Just something to think about. You're not the only one guilty of this though; there's so much fucking idiotic WoW hate on these boards and the anti-WoW zealots don't see how fucking stupid they sound.. it's incredible. But I digress from your problem.
You really have a few options, depending on whether you want to be pro-active in stopping the problems, or reactive. And given your description of yourself, the reactive is probably more your style.
Pro-active:
1. Log on his computer right now, google "WoW gold", "WoW hacks", etc and click on literally every link that you can be bothered clicking. Go for a good 10 pages of google.
2. Jump on the WoW forums and find the threads with keylogger links (they're really easy to spot, the threads are typically about "hot girls on satellite" etc and have links on the first post), click every key logging link.
In short, you're going to get his account hacked. You don't need his passwords or anything, you just need to plant the seeds on his computer, so that when he logs in, he fucks himself. Yes, Blizzard will restore his account... but only a few times. Every time you come to realise that his account is back online... Repeat 1 and 2 above. Do it again and again. Eventually.. Blizzard will close the accounts and in the process they will have lost weeks and weeks of play time due to Blizzard "investigating". They will eventually get sick of it, or shit.. they might find something else to spend their time on. Ultimately though, the account closure is likely to sink their interest.
Reactive:
Harden the fuck up. Tell your brothers that, guess what, it's not reasonable to be playing the damn game from 7pm at night until 5;30am in the morning and expecting you to not use any bandwidth in between those hours. Tell them that you will continue to put your torrents on at night like after 1am when there's not a great need for them to still be playing and when you will be sleeping. Tell them that if they come good on their threat to break your laptop, you will take a fucking bat to their computer. Call their bluff. But if they do it.. you do the same. Either way, you get them out of the cycle and nothing really changes for you... you aren't getting your torrents at the moment anyway, right?
You really need to get serious about the issue, otherwise you should have made this blog without the request for help, and left it at the bitching and moaning.
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lol if they go and break your laptop it's already gg for them unless your parents are totally retarded.
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if you do shit to their accounts you are a gigantic asshole and deserve all the headaches they put you through
I really don't understand what the problem is here. Explain to them that you torrent only while you can sleep so that they have more time to play lag-free WoW.
Then, tell them if they don't stop bitching you will torrent 24/7.
I also don't understand in the OP. you complain about the music, and the speaker system... and then say that he is wearing headphones. what's going on exactly? what is it you are complaining about?
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it sounds like you have some irrational problem with WoW that is much worse than what you are complaining about in the first place.
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you want them to stop, but you say you arent confrontational. you also say that you are passive. those dont go together. you just have to either tell them to stop and establish a sense of authority over them, or keep complaining and do nothing.
if you're really fucked up, though, you can mess with their real-lives, like... putting stuff in their food, etc. but that's not really gonna solve anything.
it might be too late, but it might work if you start now and establish your social standpoint/position of authority as older brother. if you need to use force, then do it. and if your parents side with the brothers, then you have to prepare to defend yourself.
if possible, you can also move away from home, but that depends on how dependent you are on your parents. if you are really dependent (financially), then you might not wanna do this or do anything to really piss them off...
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stop giving him advice till he updates with how his balls are textured or existant
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On December 22 2008 03:03 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2008 02:47 Vedic wrote:
So let me get this straight - you're mad because your brother has a real use for bandwidth while you're trying to illegally obtain software. Grow up, and get your priorities straight. You evidently cannot read. That, or you cannot comprehend words that you read. The worst option would be that you are incapable of intelligent thought, but I won't accuse anyone of that lightly. His brothers believe that they are the only ones who rightly deserve usage of the family bandwidth. His brothers blast loud music at night with no consideration for others. His brothers threaten to ruin their own lives with their addiction, and his brothers threaten to break his laptop if he doesn't comply and give up his usage of bandwidth. I cannot imagine the kind of mind that will identify what you just identified as the main issue.
That's the spirit - attempt to use personal attacks to hide the fact that you have no substance for your distaste for the truth. Attempting to say that he's more in the right for wanting to use bandwidth for illegal purposes over someone using bandwidth for a game is stupid. They're both in the wrong, and so are you. Stay in school.
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On December 21 2008 21:02 ForVengeance wrote:
HAHA
"black/death/metalcore" fan insults other peoples music taste... ah such irony is life.
I read some books written by psychologists who through studies realized that young men who listen to rebellious music do so because they are struggling to find an identity in a world that intimidates them. "Heavy" guitars and drums provide the illusion of strength and confidence, traits that are admired in adult males in society.
But come on boys, its the year 2008, we all know buying a cd with "bad ass" music on it doesnt make you "bad ass" just cause you listen to it, right? Might as well just buy a throne and make yourself king. Or if you are blind, buy yourself some books and theyll magically make you see.
yea man, you got some problems  what do u listen to? sounds like a retard so far
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On December 22 2008 02:47 Vedic wrote:
So let me get this straight - you're mad because your brother has a real use for bandwidth while you're trying to illegally obtain software. Grow up, and get your priorities straight.
ROFL this has to be a troll
why such insane amount of retards/fags in this thread? LOLOL
Nyovne, seriously man, thats fucked up
just cuz u had a housemate like that doesnt give u exclusive ability to judge wow-addicts
i wanted to say stfu but i would get banned for this im sure
And I grew up with a younger bro, we fought a lot but i could never hurt him since my parents would kill me for that. He did worse shit to me just to retaliate but i was pretty mean as well. Once i shut computer off while he was playing, dont remember why, and he swore he would erase my saved game. I think he did, or hid them somewhere lol. We used to go batshit and i regret all of that cuz it was humiliating to him, he was weaker then me. Shit id give a lot to take it back and act different, but from what u saying its completely different story. Basically your younger bro slaps you around, which is unheard of. Internet is fine, u cant do anything about it, find your time to download or w/e( u have no major rights here), but music is something else, u have to stop that. Talk to your parents first, tell them u get a headache/cant study, ask then what they want u to do. If they dotn help, take his speakers and fight back if he comes at u with an axe. Hope we read about it in the paper.
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On December 22 2008 17:42 Vedic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2008 03:03 uriel- wrote:On December 22 2008 02:47 Vedic wrote:
So let me get this straight - you're mad because your brother has a real use for bandwidth while you're trying to illegally obtain software. Grow up, and get your priorities straight. You evidently cannot read. That, or you cannot comprehend words that you read. The worst option would be that you are incapable of intelligent thought, but I won't accuse anyone of that lightly. His brothers believe that they are the only ones who rightly deserve usage of the family bandwidth. His brothers blast loud music at night with no consideration for others. His brothers threaten to ruin their own lives with their addiction, and his brothers threaten to break his laptop if he doesn't comply and give up his usage of bandwidth. I cannot imagine the kind of mind that will identify what you just identified as the main issue. That's the spirit - attempt to use personal attacks to hide the fact that you have no substance for your distaste for the truth. Attempting to say that he's more in the right for wanting to use bandwidth for illegal purposes over someone using bandwidth for a game is stupid. They're both in the wrong, and so are you. Stay in school.
Congratulations, you managed to miss every point in the very post you quoted and restate your imbecilic stand, along with an arbitrary parting comment which I assume is your way of asserting some sort of intellectual superiority over me. Do pardon me while I ignore you.
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lolol bunch of douchebags. brotherly love.
ok heres what you do. lock your door while you torrent !!
also to ForVengeance: that makes no sense whatsoever. Thats like saying people who like classic rock are pussies, or people that enjoy reggae are all stoners.
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On December 22 2008 18:16 uriel- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2008 17:42 Vedic wrote:On December 22 2008 03:03 uriel- wrote:On December 22 2008 02:47 Vedic wrote:
So let me get this straight - you're mad because your brother has a real use for bandwidth while you're trying to illegally obtain software. Grow up, and get your priorities straight. You evidently cannot read. That, or you cannot comprehend words that you read. The worst option would be that you are incapable of intelligent thought, but I won't accuse anyone of that lightly. His brothers believe that they are the only ones who rightly deserve usage of the family bandwidth. His brothers blast loud music at night with no consideration for others. His brothers threaten to ruin their own lives with their addiction, and his brothers threaten to break his laptop if he doesn't comply and give up his usage of bandwidth. I cannot imagine the kind of mind that will identify what you just identified as the main issue. That's the spirit - attempt to use personal attacks to hide the fact that you have no substance for your distaste for the truth. Attempting to say that he's more in the right for wanting to use bandwidth for illegal purposes over someone using bandwidth for a game is stupid. They're both in the wrong, and so are you. Stay in school. Congratulations, you managed to miss every point in the very post you quoted and restate your imbecilic stand, along with an arbitrary parting comment which I assume is your way of asserting some sort of intellectual superiority over me. Do pardon me while I ignore you.
Right, so troll.
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Netherlands19133 Posts
On December 22 2008 09:33 xxsaznpride wrote:
Nyvone: I honestly can't tell if you read anything or not. But, since it looks like a serious post, I'll reply in kind.
It's not that I hate the game itself. Hell, I acknowledge it for how much it's put the gaming industry in a positive light... or at the very least in how much it's gotten people to start gaming. The whole point of this thread was to bitch about how because of WoW (and techno...), my brothers were pissing me off and how I wanted to get back at them by sabotaging their most valued possessions (they really don't have anything else important besides WoW). I don't care about whether or not they ruin their lives. For all I care they can die and I'd only be relieved about freedom of bandwidth, increased budget priority from my parents, and... well maybe I could expand my bedroom.
Bockit: I wish it were that easy.
Vedic: You're calling WoW a real use of bandwidth? And whoever said I was pirating software in the first place? You're automatically connecting the use of bittorrent trackers to software piracy. I download and seed my anime as much as I can... and upon occasion music.
My priorities ARE straight. They're straighter than they were all of first semester. Now that I'm on break, I'm indulging myself.
Uriel: Haaaaah shouting is so out of character for me.
And I really, honestly hope you're right about my parents. The thing there is... I'm pretty sure that at this point they ARE. When Wrath of the Lich King came out Thursday night, my mother actually drove my brother to a midnight release at some GameStop.
Even if I were to, I don't know, "get angry" (which I have about other things before... albeit mostly lesser things), my parents wouldn't do shit about it. In all these instances where a) I was angry and b) one of my brothers were involved, they always took their side. Fuck them, there's no reasoning possible at this point.
Divinek: I wish I were that kind of brother... too late now. It wouldn't be seen as "natural behavior" so much as me "lashing out uncontrollably".
Redbluegreen: I actually thought of messing with the router... things like limiting bandwidth for WoW and whatever. Only problem is that my dad passworded that thing and I have no idea what it is (anymore).
Hypnosis: They're supposed to not know it was me =D
I wasnt responding to you haha. You have the same genuine problem as I have with my housemate and I totally empathise with your situation except that its even harder on you cause its your brothers and have an emotional interest in them throwing away their futures.
Its the pathetic replies on how to solve your problem that pissed me off :p.
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