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InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
December 10 2008 02:58 GMT
#21
This is very typical in every college student but parents never understand even though they went through it as well, so just be strong
w/e
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
December 10 2008 03:02 GMT
#22
i started as Computer Science --> Elem Education --> Psychology --> English Lit --> ended up double majoring in the last 2.

No one ever knows what they want. If you feel that this is the best choice for you, then do it. Especially since you said that you can be finished with your CIS degree in a year as opposed to the engineering that will take another 2-3.

However, if you were gonna finish CE in 1 year and CIS was gonna take you 2-3, then i'd tell you to suck it up and stick with it. In the end, it's the B.(ull)S.(hit) that counts.
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
December 10 2008 03:10 GMT
#23
Damn... I know so many people who have done this switching around

But don't go crazy, i think 70%? or something like that, of undergrads switch around at least once before finding what they really wanted to take
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
December 10 2008 03:14 GMT
#24
Finish the engineering degree. SERIOUSLY -_-
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StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
December 10 2008 03:18 GMT
#25
lol I agree with lilsusie and Chill.
Can't you just go for a Masters in CIS or something after you get your CE Degree?
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Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
December 10 2008 03:23 GMT
#26
Well, one option is to attempt a double major of the two. But I think the dean of each college (engineering for CE and business for CIS) have to approve it. I've spoken with the dean of our CE department already a while back ago and she recommended to just leave CE altogether as it isn't "my thing".
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miseiler
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1389 Posts
December 10 2008 03:36 GMT
#27
What? Who cares what you do in undergrad? When you get to grad school you'll find that you don't. And no one else does, either.

And since that's only research, you get to do ANYTHING you have passion for (only strangely, what you're passionate for tends to be startlingly similar to what your advisor has passion for as well).

And you get to do it on your own time, and you get paid.

So don't sweat undergrad.

If you aren't going to grad school, do it anyway. It's a solid economic choice in these times.
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shavingcream66
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
December 10 2008 03:40 GMT
#28
which major makes more money?
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
December 10 2008 03:48 GMT
#29
If you have already committed a large portion of your time to a course, I would suggest you finish it up, get the degree and then move on. An acquaintance of mine was three years into a Architecture degree and quit to move on to other things. While that person now enjoys what they are doing; they could have also had an undergraduate degree in Architecture and only have been one year behind in their current course.

Good luck though, I know what it's like to be second guessing academic choices.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25987 Posts
December 10 2008 03:53 GMT
#30
Listen, these pie-in-the-sky kids don't know what's up. Finish the engineering degree.
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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
December 10 2008 03:59 GMT
#31
On December 10 2008 11:27 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2008 11:12 AttackZerg wrote:
On December 10 2008 11:01 micronesia wrote:
On December 10 2008 10:30 Spartan wrote:
I guess for all you college bound students.. make sure you really find out what you have a passion for doing before making your final choice in a major.

For many people this is very difficult haha.



His advice is 'know what you want' .... and he didn't know what he wanted .... Good advice.

For many people this is very difficult...


Thats why for 90 % of us it is useless advice and for the rest, they never needed it
Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
December 10 2008 04:04 GMT
#32
On December 10 2008 12:53 Chill wrote:
Listen, these pie-in-the-sky kids don't know what's up. Finish the engineering degree.

The idea of finishing my CE degree isn't out completely. What I'll probably do is officially switch to CIS and see how things go. If things go smoothly as I planned then I'll continue the course of the double major with the CE/CIS combo. Part of the reason why I'm making the move towards CIS now and not finishing my CE degree first is that I've had a taste of the "pie in the sky". I have several websites now that provide me with a steady cash flow each month (and lately it has increased two-fold).
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kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
December 10 2008 04:16 GMT
#33
If your websites ever fail though, having a engineering degree to fall back on would be really helpful.

Always have a back up plan.
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eth0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada208 Posts
December 10 2008 04:18 GMT
#34
On December 10 2008 10:30 Spartan wrote:
..for choosing to major in Civil Engineering instead of Computer Information Systems. I've so far wasted the last 3 years (12 quarters) of college in taking CE classes. I'm making the switch officially over to CIS at the beginning of next quarter and I just wish I would've done it sooner. My parents are going to kill me once they find out I've wasted all their money.

I know they'll be disappointed, hell I am, but I am confident that this switch is the wiser choice rather than try (and fail several more times) and finish CE. I'm so far behind in CE that it would take another 2-3 years after this one just to finish (because my school is very impacted). In CIS I can finish by the end of next year.

I really don't know what I'm trying to say.. just venting a little. I guess for all you college bound students.. make sure you really find out what you have a passion for doing before making your final choice in a major.


Its so difficult to decide what you truly want to do for the rest of your life/study in post-secondary when you're young. (17/18/19ish)

How did you do it, heh?
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Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
December 10 2008 04:20 GMT
#35
On December 10 2008 13:18 eth0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2008 10:30 Spartan wrote:
..for choosing to major in Civil Engineering instead of Computer Information Systems. I've so far wasted the last 3 years (12 quarters) of college in taking CE classes. I'm making the switch officially over to CIS at the beginning of next quarter and I just wish I would've done it sooner. My parents are going to kill me once they find out I've wasted all their money.

I know they'll be disappointed, hell I am, but I am confident that this switch is the wiser choice rather than try (and fail several more times) and finish CE. I'm so far behind in CE that it would take another 2-3 years after this one just to finish (because my school is very impacted). In CIS I can finish by the end of next year.

I really don't know what I'm trying to say.. just venting a little. I guess for all you college bound students.. make sure you really find out what you have a passion for doing before making your final choice in a major.


Its so difficult to decide what you truly want to do for the rest of your life/study in post-secondary when you're young. (17/18/19ish)

How did you do it, heh?

I learned the hard way.. which no one should ever have to go through.
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thoraxe
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1449 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-10 04:33:20
December 10 2008 04:28 GMT
#36
Dude, to what uni do you go to? How long does it take to finish CIS there? I'm planning on majorin in that also, but down here in south Texas, CIS is only 2 years for both TSTC and ITT (community colleges/technical) and I don't know other schools in Texas with that kind of Major. I do know the UAT (university of advancing technology) over at Arizon, but don't think financial aid will cover it all seeing as how it will be out-of-state.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-10 04:38:40
December 10 2008 04:37 GMT
#37
On December 10 2008 12:53 Chill wrote:
Listen, these pie-in-the-sky kids don't know what's up. Finish the engineering degree.


I'm with Chill, suck it up and finish it. You can always go to grad school to do what you actually want to do. I'm sucking it up with Biology, won't matter if I like it or not if I manage to get into med school like I want to.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Faronel
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States658 Posts
December 10 2008 05:08 GMT
#38
Wasn't it shown somewhere (shoddy substance at work), that like over 50% of ppl work in an area different from their college major. Looks like you caught it in time.
C'est la vie...
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-10 05:23:39
December 10 2008 05:23 GMT
#39
wtf, don't listen to these people go for the pie in the sky. waiting to live your life the way you want is a flawed existence. it's always better to regret something you've done than something you didn't do.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Orlandu
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
China2450 Posts
December 10 2008 05:24 GMT
#40
Not to say an engineering degree is a bad degree, because it definitely isn't, but if you don't really enjoy that stuff then you would be a very big fool to just suck it up like a few people have recommended. Besides, CIS is a very good place to be right now and it seems to be the kind of thing that you enjoy, so it's probably a very wise decision to make that switch.

Don't you ever listen to someone that tells you to just suck it up, that's very bad advice when your future is on the line. It doesn't matter if the job will make you filthy rich, which unless you're pretty lucky it won't, because in 10, 20, 30 years down the line you're most likely going to hate your job and have some serious issues and regrets with your life. It's not as if switching from an engineering degree will mean that suddenly you won't be able to find a good job. And while a lot of people do say that statistics show that many people end up getting jobs that have little to do with what they majored in, sucking it up basically leaves you with two options: you either get a job that does relate to your major, and you end up doing work that you really don't like and aren't happy with, or you get a job that doesn't relate to your major, and you end up putting yourself through a bunch of crap during college that you really shouldn't have had to go through, especially considering college years should be some of the best years of your life.

You seem to be making the right decision. I had to make a similar decision several years back, and I can say with complete confidence that it was the best decision that I have EVER made in my life, and the only thing that I regret was that it took me as long as it did to make that decision. This may not necessarily be the case for you, but if you're really certain that you don't like where you're at, and CIS is where you want to be, then making that switch would be a very smart move.
We cant give up just because things arent the way we want them to be.
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