I feel TL.net has not yet had it's fair share of my complaints and inquiries about bitches.
I am a full time student and also work as an economics tutor for the school of economics. Most people I tutor are pretty stupid and have non-technical majors so I think they just give up when they see anything that involves math.
But there is a girl who has come into the tutor room a couple of times. She's dark skinned (some kind of exotic thing I think), has dreadlocks, and is skinny, not too tall, and generally just good looking.
Anyway, she was there today, and through mundane conversation it was uncovered that her major is environmental science, and she is writing her thesis on desertification in Africa.
My major interests are economic development, collectivist theory, and design processes for chemicals (I'm double majoring in chemical engineering). Anyhow, that kind of relates, since desertification results in a ridiculous amount of deaths and ruins the land, which is bad for development.
Point is, I want to ask this girl out, but asking a girl out is something I have rarely done, and when I do, I'm asking someone whose answer I am sure will be no. I don't even know how to legitimately talk to girls, and the other problem is that the situation is kind of awkward, since there's always one or two other tutors working at the same time, and usually several students.
Soooo that's one issue but how the fuck do you ask someone out, awkward situation notwithstanding? Do I just fit it in like, "remember a profit-maximizing monopolist will set price equal to marginal revenue, and that for a monopolist the marginal revenue curve lies under the demand curve .... so, what are you doing Friday night?"
I've dated girls before, so I don't lack fundamental social skills, but honestly, the girls I've dated were kind of crazy and obsessed with me so I didn't have to do any work. This girl is ridiculously hot though, and the quarter is almost over, so I want to legitimately give it my best shot. Failure isn't a worry for me, though I'd like to do all I can to avoid it.
Of course, being that I am a tutor and she is a tutee, that's probably unethical in some way and I suppose she could get me in trouble if it was her only goal, but hey, what's life if you don't take risks?
I actually read it now, because im SUCH a nice guy.
Obviously you don't go against her asking her out all of a sudden, this isn't a club and you are not drunk (If you are then it doesn't matter and you can read this you are gay lalalalala).
So you should start talking to her about where she comes from or anything else to turn into casual conversation. I don't know how your tutoring works, which makes it hard.
Ages? Yes asking a student out in front of other tutors seems weird, unless the other tutors are friends of you, then it's all good.
Where is she from? What is this tutoring for? Ages? Your co-workers are fun/relaxed people/friends?
You never have time alone? What do you do after tutoring, and when does it happen.
You can probably slip in a go-out-to-a-bar-to-get-some-beers if tutoring is late / if other tutors are cool. I don't know how it works there, but in my university tutoring is relaxed and im hang out with people i teach sometimes. So with Christmas coming close you can even use it as an excuse, as a year ending thing.
On December 02 2008 13:12 Zeller wrote: Just stop givin a fuck so much.
Go up to her start some bullshit convo
Then throw in some cute line about taking her out to dinner. She's for it or she's not no biggie.
That's what I planned on doing. I just am to arrogant for lame bullshit lines. Unfortunately, bitches eat that shit up. I suppose I need to realize women don't want something brilliant and interesting, they want something lame, played out, and retartedly cocky sounding.
I care for two reasons - she's hot, and she's passionate about something. College girls are usually devoid of passion except for getting drunk and then getting meat in them and then playing it off in some bullshit innocent way like they're not huge sluts. When there is someone who isn't like that, I am duly intrigued.
Yeah i get you like her, hell she probably is a good catch. You gotta stop worrying about the consequences and just go for it. Be yourself broskie she'll like you or she wont.
On December 02 2008 13:13 IntoTheWow wrote: I actually read it now, because im SUCH a nice guy.
Obviously you don't go against her asking her out all of a sudden, this isn't a club and you are not drunk (If you are then it doesn't matter and you can read this you are gay lalalalala).
So you should start talking to her about where she comes from or anything else to turn into casual conversation. I don't know how your tutoring works, which makes it hard.
Ages? Yes asking a student out in front of other tutors seems weird, unless the other tutors are friends of you, then it's all good.
Where is she from? What is this tutoring for? Ages? Your co-workers are fun/relaxed people/friends?
You never have time alone? What do you do after tutoring, and when does it happen.
You can probably slip in a go-out-to-a-bar-to-get-some-beers if tutoring is late / if other tutors are cool. I don't know how it works there, but in my university tutoring is relaxed and im hang out with people i teach sometimes. So with Christmas coming close you can even use it as an excuse, as a year ending thing.
hope it helps, if it doesn't PM hot_Bid about it.
Why would I PM hot_bid O-O
Anyway, the getting a drink thing wouldn't work because I am 20 and have no fake ID (drinking age in the USA is 21, for anyone who doesn't know). I am friends with the other tutors fortunately.
The casual conversation thing sounds good, but I must be tactful to make it sound non-retarded (as in, not leading up to asking her out).
The way the tutoring works is we sit in the tutor room on computer Facebook creeping, browsing TL (e.g.) or doing homework. Students come in and we sit at a table with them or at a computer and answer questions they have about economics.
I assume this girl is slightly older than I am, since she's getting her undergraduate degree this year I assume, which is why she brought up her thesis.
Tutoring is based on courses, and as an econ major I've taken a lot of econ even though I am only second year. So I can help students in higher years if they are taking econ classes for general curriculum. Anyhow, it is definitely a relaxed atmosphere.
I get of at 5:00P M W F. Unfortunately for me she was there right until the end today, I guess that would have been a good chance.
I suppose my goal will now be steer economics assistance towards majors / life interests / activities / school / plans / what are you doing Friday night. Just an idea, I'm sure I'll have to ad lib.
On December 02 2008 13:20 Zeller wrote: Yeah i get you like her, hell she probably is a good catch. You gotta stop worrying about the consequences and just go for it. Be yourself broskie she'll like you or she wont.
The simple advice is good for confidence! With a reasonable outline of a game plan, and a live in the moment attitude, and maybe some bullshit cocky lines in case of emergency as Kennigit courteously affirmed, I'll rape (the situation, as one would rape a D- noob).
Oh 21 drinking age sucks. Well what do you usually do after work, or with friends. Can you go for a snack or something at a bar? (i don't know what's a normal thing to do after work since you don't drink). Abuse Christmas excuse.
Are holidays coming for you? she going on holiday somewhere is a good excuse to get to know her.
On December 02 2008 13:23 arb wrote: play her this song,you'll win her over for sure EDIT : If she has dreads its in her blood to like this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8
That's a good way for her to hate me and get a brutal stare of disdain. I honestly can't tell if she's African, Cuba, Latino, Haitian, some kind of weird Middle Eastern or something...
The thing is, she's exotic looking, but not amazon-like, which is a frequent problem with those kinds of girls. She probably dutifully shaves her body hair and showers regularly, not like some weed-smoking bra burning spiritual rasta. Not that those kinds are all bad, but for a nice expensive dinner I charge and cannot particularly afford, I'd rather have the former type.
On December 02 2008 13:27 IntoTheWow wrote: Oh 21 drinking age sucks. Well what do you usually do after work, or with friends. Can you go for a snack or something at a bar? (i don't know what's a normal thing to do after work since you don't drink). Abuse Christmas excuse.
Are holidays coming for you? she going on holiday somewhere is a good excuse to get to know her.
I have class after work usually, and on Friday night I have to practice for a Christmas skit : ((((((
But that way, I can say "I can pick you up later ...." which makes me seem cool and independent possibly. I don't think I should mention church, since I assume she's not religious (I'm not either, it's just a Korean church so they can help me study language, and the Bible is an interesting historical study, however maybe she'll think that since I'm non-Christian and go to church I'm open minded and enlightened).
If that fails, I'll ask her to start an orange for me.
I think part of the problem that you, and most people that make girl threads, seem to have is that you're thinking about it. You don't think about stuff like that, at least not to the extent that you ask for advice. You just do it. Clever, dumb, it doesn't matter how you do it (yeah yeah, there are some obvious things that you shouldn't do) as long as you do it and you're confident.
People get so caught up in the concept of "asking someone out" that they make these master plans and begin to lose their confidence, and they seem to forget that it's really as simple as saying "Hey, let's go do something." The simpler it is, the less risky it is and the more confident you seem.
Confidence seems to be where so many people have trouble. If it's that hard to be confident naturally, then just pretend that she already wants you really bad and that you know she'll say "yes" to whatever you ask her. If that kind of mentality is what it takes, then by all means go for it. But it's really not something that you need to get advice on, you should just do it without thinking. When you can get into that kind of mentality, you'll find yourself having a lot more success.
Hmm Orlandu I'm pretty sure you're right. I just like musing. You're right about confidence, but the rest of the advice (ITW) seems kind of legit too.
I guess it's ok if I fuck up, because next time I won't need a girl thread. I'll just remember how badly I fucked up before and improve upon it by not seeming like a spineless retard nerd econ tutor. But if that's the worst that can happen, it's great ^-^
I could just randomly die from a brain aneurysm, that keeps happening to people I know. Or I could be hit by a rocket propelled grenade. Both are worse.
On December 02 2008 13:38 Hypnosis wrote: Dont wait too long..
Next chance is my last I feel. She said she'll "be back" since finals are coming up. But since she's not an econ major I doubt she'll take anymore econ classes. But again, if I fuck up, I'll just never see her again and I can cry over my shattered pride in solitude like a real man!
On December 02 2008 13:12 Zeller wrote: Just stop givin a fuck so much.
Go up to her start some bullshit convo
Then throw in some cute line about taking her out to dinner. She's for it or she's not no biggie.
College girls are usually devoid of passion except for getting drunk and then getting meat in them and then playing it off in some bullshit innocent way like they're not huge sluts.
Lol wtf. You sound like some bitter psychopath. Unfortunately, what you said is not the case at all and in all likelihood you are way too infatuated with this girl to see that she is just like a lot of other college girls.
On December 02 2008 13:12 Zeller wrote: Just stop givin a fuck so much.
Go up to her start some bullshit convo
Then throw in some cute line about taking her out to dinner. She's for it or she's not no biggie.
College girls are usually devoid of passion except for getting drunk and then getting meat in them and then playing it off in some bullshit innocent way like they're not huge sluts.
Lol wtf. You sound like some bitter psychopath. Unfortunately, what you said is not the case at all and in all likelihood you are way too infatuated with this girl to see that she is just like a lot of other college girls.
But yeah, Orlandu.
Actually, I feel it is usually true. All my guy friends are like this too though (although they are devoid of passion except for getting drunk and then putting their meat in some slut and then talking about how big a pimp they are), it's kind of just the way it is. I assume she is the same, but at least between the drunken weekends she has righteous ambition.
Most the people I am talking about are business majors. Man I hate business majors. They have no aspiration usually and just want the easiest path to the most money. A lot of business students come to the tutor room because as soon as they come to something that requires real math that their "business calculus" courses didn't cover, they freak out and give up don't even bother to read the textbook.
I literally spend so much time with business majors just showing them where in their textbook the simple answer to their simple question is.
Sorry if you are hard working and a business major, I know you guys exist but so many stupid people are business majors because they are indecisive and just want a degree that looks good and a B- average.
Well... my experience with women in the past has been mostly similar to yours (aggro bitches FTW).
But I can pass you what one of my exes (who was a "smarty-pants hottie" like this girl) told me: it is more flattering/attractive when a guy is straight forward and bold about his attraction.
Like: "Hey I don't know how obvious I've been, but I've always thought you're hot." Pause (let it land). Now intention is clear. "I've just always been a sucker for brainy chicks". Poorly disguised flattery plus humor? Vagina status: soaking. Now just straight-up ask: "How about I let you take me out this weekend?" It doesn't need to be extremely clever.
Just don't sneak it into the end of a sentence or something; any esteemed woman HATES that. And DON'T spill forth "feelings" and crap (but you probably already knew that. sorry evan!).
If she says no: not a big deal. She will be flattered, unless she's a self-obsessed bitchwhore, in which case you're better off anyways (as they say).
HeadBangaa, nice. That EvanTheBouncy story scares me though, I'm glad I've never really had deep romantic attractions to people. Sounds too complex .
But yeah, I guess mentioning something about her being smart is good. Sneaking in is bad. It might be tough to say "I've always thought you're hot," and also a little scary / weird, given the circumstances.
cgrinker, agreed. I guess I am a pretty successful and diligent student with a bright future and plenty of accomplishments (maybe not really, but when swooning bitches I suppose I should act that way).
Luckily, I'm an athlete too (cycling). I wouldn't want to seem like a nerd.
HeadBangaa, I don't know what else to do. Other than try to create some situation where I can see her outside of the "econ learning center," which is the goal anyway. I could just go hang out around the environmental sciences building like 24/7 and I will eventually "run into her by surprise," but that is hilariously retarded so I guess learning center it is.
The circumstances aren't ideal, but I'm a fucking baller so it shouldn't matter.
On December 02 2008 14:29 HeadBangaa wrote: Well I was just thinking it's taboo for you to ask her out as her tutor, but it's not that bad I s'pose.
It's pretty informal, and like I said before, if she went to some authority and said "a tutor asked me out and I was made to feel uncomfortable," I would probably get in some kind of trouble.
Although if I sucked up and apologized and acted sorry, I'm pretty sure I could still keep my job. It's not like I'm going to say "hey slut you want some dick in you?" as hilarious as it would be for three seconds.
One of the other tutors hits on girls all the time, just never gets down to business. And he's still here. He's kind of charming though, but has an oddly shaped nose.
Here's a genuine line. "I'm a dick and you're a cunt, so we should make a good couple." If she says yes then you know she's worth it. If she says no then punch her in the head and no hurt feelings. Win-win.
On December 02 2008 14:44 Titusmaster6 wrote: Here's a genuine line. "I'm a dick and you're a cunt, so we should make a good couple." If she says yes then you know she's worth it. If she says no then punch her in the head and no hurt feelings. Win-win.
The world would be a better place if more people acted in real life the way you humorously advocate on web forums.
why don't you just go talk to her? just ask her our for coffee, that way you can chat in a situation that doenst involve drunken blunders and besides you can get to know her personality and see if youre really into her.
On December 02 2008 15:08 tttt wrote: NEVER have sex with a girl with dreads. Are you crazy? You're not John fucking Cusack in High Fidelity.
I don't get the reference, I'll have to look it up / see that movie.
On December 02 2008 15:08 Kalynn wrote: why don't you just go talk to her? just ask her our for coffee, that way you can chat in a situation that doenst involve drunken blunders and besides you can get to know her personality and see if youre really into her.
That's the goal basically, maybe coffee is less formal than dinner though, which is what I was planning, because I'm really only free evenings. Coffee can be good for evenings. This part doesn't really matter ... I could just say "get something to eat," "get coffee," "get sauteed bean curd (or some other hippie shit like that, I'm sure she's into that)," etc.
I suppose coffee is intellectual and stylish though...
I went to IMDB and saw that woman. This girl has thicker, hippier dreadlocks. Not stylish thin dreadlocks. She also has kind of emo bangs. It's trippy as fuck. I honestly think she's some kind of Cuban or Egyptian or something.
coffee is generally good because she will be more willing to agree because coffee isnt a huge investment - such as a whole date is - and its a nice informal setting that isnt really a lot of pressure.. but also can be private enough to have a cozy chat
Honestly, I like ice cream. I always take my girl friends to get ice cream. Girls love that stuff. But it might be weird to ask if she wants to get ice cream. Maybe I'll throw that in if she refuses coffee.
On December 02 2008 14:44 Titusmaster6 wrote: Here's a genuine line. "I'm a dick and you're a cunt, so we should make a good couple." If she says yes then you know she's worth it. If she says no then punch her in the head and no hurt feelings. Win-win.
The world would be a better place if more people acted in real life the way you humorously advocate on web forums.
Actually, this did happen in real life. But unfortunately the girl ran away before the guy could punch her.
On December 02 2008 15:28 Straylight wrote: Dude you are thinking about it too much.
"Oh would she like coffee?!?! Or maybe icecream?!? I should say it like this "..." yeah! That'll work!"
Get to it bro! No more thinking.
I'm not actually thinking about asking the girl out anymore. Like I said long ago, I'm distracting myself from studying Korean with this blog. I hope I do well in my evaluation tomorrow <.< >.>
I'll ask the girl out and hopefully it will go well, that's all I'm thinking in regards to that.
On December 02 2008 14:44 Titusmaster6 wrote: Here's a genuine line. "I'm a dick and you're a cunt, so we should make a good couple." If she says yes then you know she's worth it. If she says no then punch her in the head and no hurt feelings. Win-win.
The world would be a better place if more people acted in real life the way you humorously advocate on web forums.
Actually, this did happen in real life. But unfortunately the girl ran away before the guy could punch her.
On December 02 2008 13:12 Zeller wrote: Just stop givin a fuck so much.
Go up to her start some bullshit convo
Then throw in some cute line about taking her out to dinner. She's for it or she's not no biggie.
College girls are usually devoid of passion except for getting drunk and then getting meat in them and then playing it off in some bullshit innocent way like they're not huge sluts.
Lol wtf. You sound like some bitter psychopath. Unfortunately, what you said is not the case at all and in all likelihood you are way too infatuated with this girl to see that she is just like a lot of other college girls.
But yeah, Orlandu.
Actually, I feel it is usually true. All my guy friends are like this too though (although they are devoid of passion except for getting drunk and then putting their meat in some slut and then talking about how big a pimp they are), it's kind of just the way it is. I assume she is the same, but at least between the drunken weekends she has righteous ambition.
Most the people I am talking about are business majors. Man I hate business majors. They have no aspiration usually and just want the easiest path to the most money. A lot of business students come to the tutor room because as soon as they come to something that requires real math that their "business calculus" courses didn't cover, they freak out and give up don't even bother to read the textbook.
I literally spend so much time with business majors just showing them where in their textbook the simple answer to their simple question is.
Sorry if you are hard working and a business major, I know you guys exist but so many stupid people are business majors because they are indecisive and just want a degree that looks good and a B- average.
Fuck
Just ask her out for dinner. Seriously, if nothing else, one thing that college should teach you is that having a lot of morals is a pain in the ass and a major barrier to the good things in life (e.g. $, hooking up, cheating on exams, w/e)
On December 03 2008 06:31 b3tty wrote: tutor + student relationship. is that allowed?
Yeah, it will be just like the hentai I'm sure all of you watch.
On December 03 2008 07:18 t_co wrote: Just ask her out for dinner. Seriously, if nothing else, one thing that college should teach you is that having a lot of morals is a pain in the ass and a major barrier to the good things in life (e.g. $, hooking up, cheating on exams, w/e)
Don't worry, I don't have any morals. I just want to get good grades and be really smart.
just keep asking her things she probably knows stuff about, things you are REALLY interested in learning that way you two might start to have a wonderful list of conversations you both enjoy and its sure that when you two sometimes realise its time to go because university closes doors at evening or whatever you both will realize you enjoy talking to each other, BUT dont have enough time on the campus so you should meet during free time afterwards sometimes, if she enjoys time with you as much as you do she probably wont say no...
EPT
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