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I'm seriously considering signing up.
The reason is that I greatly admire men who serve their country that way, and I'd feel a better person for it.
Admittedly, I don't know too much about modern military jobs. I'm wondering if anybody reading this can steer me to some good info or advice.
My current situation is as follows:
I finished my BS in Computer Science this July. I'm still working in my academic internship, and have been searching for a full-time job (lots of interviews lately). But I have absolutely nothing holding me down in San Diego, and this is the time in my life where if I'm going to do it, it's going to be now. I'm in good shape, 26 yrs old. Some juvenile convictions, but nothing on adult record. I don't know what else is relevant.
Especially any military people out there, let me know what you think. I was specifically thinking about joining the Air Force because I heard they have the most technical jobs. Also, is there any benefit to having a bachelor's degree when signing up?
 
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Air Force is easy time compared to the other branches. You could go to training to become an officer or do some computer stuff since you have that degree.
Join the Air Force and lead an easy life.
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You are an educated man and you want to join the military?......
Get your cisco certs and maybe your MCSE and you can do IT work anywhere in the world (even contract for the military like my brother does).
Don't do it. Structure is not a good thing.
I am sorry to give you my rant. I just think you already have discipline and you'd be serving your country in just as noble a way by joining the work force, paying taxes and finding a hobby worth investing your excess money in.
If you do go my friends who maintain cargo planes or whatever there called ended up making a pretty good living after leaving the militiary. I think it was 6 years or 8 .... anyway I know he makes at least 50-55k a year working a sac international and loves his job(He probably makes more, I just know he has a nice guy and a pretty decent home)
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Watch out, if USA goes to war agains´t S. Korea and you have to fight some progamers like Boxer or Casy you are screwed.
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No I appreciate your candid opinion, AttackZerg!
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I know finnish army isnt anything like the american one, but i was at the airforces.
It sucked, any motivation to defend my country was blown away. Almost everyday was waiting, waiting waiting and after that having some major hussles just to wait some more. My physical condition lowered in there, and i got lazy.. im still lazy, wasnt lazy before military.
But it wasnt all bad, got couple new friends there and could play some games like floorball and billiards almost every evening 
*edit: About the pretty pictures, movies and such, military was nothing like that. It just felt like faking. Hard to say "FUCK YEAH!!" when youre sitting whole night in some cold mudhole or cleaning your gun for the 100th time.
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Nice pic, haha.
Personally, given the instability of the world now, I wouldn't join. But hey, respect for your decision. I'd think it out a lot though.
But yeah, you get more technical jobs in the air force. I'll give my buddy a call, he's in year two now and he's moved his way up in the air force. He was working on jets for a while, but coordinates airstrikes now I think. And I'm almost positive the bachelor's will make you officer when you go in. Again, ask, but you're better off asking a friend who is in, as opposed to a recruiter. They're paid to sell you shit, just like car salesmen =]
The shitty thing is though, and I'm sure you've heard this, is that the military doesn't care what YOU want, it goes by what they need. So you could sign up for one thing, but if there's a shortage of meat, they might stick you elsewhere. I don't know if that means you could sign as a Air Force guy and end up an infantry grunt, but you're not necessarily gaurenteed anything.
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AND FUCK RANGERS, GO WINGS
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Just dont whine when u get sent somewhere in the middle east and get killed by a car bomb.
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United States22883 Posts
On November 04 2008 21:58 HeadBangaa wrote:
Especially any military people out there, let me know what you think. I was specifically thinking about joining the Air Force because I heard they have the most technical jobs. Also, is there any benefit to having a bachelor's degree when signing up?
Yes, Air Force is easily the most highly educated of the three and you're going to find a lot of guys with BAs and PhDs there. I don't know what the training regimen is like, but it is the most technologically advanced and probably most comfortable. Definitely not the most exciting though. 
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On November 04 2008 22:30 Hawk wrote:
Nice pic, haha.
Personally, given the instability of the world now, I wouldn't join. But hey, respect for your decision. I'd think it out a lot though.
But yeah, you get more technical jobs in the air force. I'll give my buddy a call, he's in year two now and he's moved his way up in the air force. He was working on jets for a while, but coordinates airstrikes now I think. And I'm almost positive the bachelor's will make you officer when you go in. Again, ask, but you're better off asking a friend who is in, as opposed to a recruiter. They're paid to sell you shit, just like car salesmen =]
The shitty thing is though, and I'm sure you've heard this, is that the military doesn't care what YOU want, it goes by what they need. So you could sign up for one thing, but if there's a shortage of meat, they might stick you elsewhere. I don't know if that means you could sign as a Air Force guy and end up an infantry grunt, but you're not necessarily gaurenteed anything.
Yeah I've heard some horror stories here and there. Most of the military people I know were Navy or Marines, and didn't get their ideal jobs. I'm hoping that degree gives an advantage :O
Joining as an officer would be awesome, I was looking at their pay scale:
![[image loading]](http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/9811/airforcepayscalexw7.png)
Officers start at minimum salary 30,668, not bad. I'm below poverty level right now; that would be high life!
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I've known about 5-7 people that joined the military it either being the army, marines, navy and air force. Only friend I still catch up with is the two of them from the marines. 1 is really noble and estatic about serving for the branch but the other one regrets ever signing his life over with bonus or no bonus. Also the army branch 1 of my friends was discharged and the other one is stationed in Hawaii filling military vehicles up with gas....Also the one that was discharged is happy he left and the one in Hawaii just misses home at times. The navy guy got discharged as well but b/c he hurt himself and was medically discharged but he didn't mind being there.
Now to the lesbian that I knew joined the Air Force which I haven't had much contact with her went in about 3-4 years ago. I lost touch with her of course but the main reason is b/c i wanted to bone her and really just lost interest after she told us she was a lesbo. So sorry I will not have much info on this branch.
All I can say for the people that i've known that joined any branch in particular either half of them liked it or the other half just totally regretted it. As Hawk said with the way the world is going and our new presidency I would stray away from any military branch.
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Finland2136 Posts
I would like to hear more about ur motivation about recruiting when ur standing in line and 6years younger then u and 10cm shorter sergent is yelling at you "WHAT THE FUCK R U SMILING ?!?" And of course it raining and ur hungry + in week, u have slept about 8h.
About Air Force, theres lot of requiments, about ur height for excemple, cant be too tall, otherwise eject wont be possible...
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Finland2136 Posts
like suxn said;
Cleaning gun would be the thing u do the most, it gets annoying after the 100th time and it gets gay after 1000th time etc...
Army also made me "lazy", well not lazy, but made me better "avoiding things" and delegate things to others.
U wont see ur friends for while and u have to sleep/jack off in same room with 10 other .. Dont do it man.
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"About Air Force, theres lot of requiments, about ur height for excemple, cant be too tall, otherwise eject wont be possible..."
Air force isnt all about being a pilot, kroko
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Instead of becoming an army men, why don't you apply to one of those FBI, CIA jobs where they can use your degree and give you like a forensic, security type of assignments? that would be mad leet and you would fight terroists on a much bigger and sophiscated scale.
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i dont know anything about this but was also considering it a little myself
i was quite strongly encouraged, told that sharing room with 10 people is a thing of the past etc
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On November 04 2008 22:34 suxN wrote:
AND FUCK RANGERS, GO WINGS
You dirty, dirty hooker, you.
I'd really give it some thought man. YOu've got a degree, so it's not like you'd be totally out of options for a job. I don't think you should base it on that. But if it's a family service kind deal and you feel strongly about it, then yeah, props to you for continuing that. Just make sure you're doin it for the right reasons.
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On November 04 2008 22:41 HeadBangaa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2008 22:30 Hawk wrote:
Nice pic, haha.
Personally, given the instability of the world now, I wouldn't join. But hey, respect for your decision. I'd think it out a lot though.
But yeah, you get more technical jobs in the air force. I'll give my buddy a call, he's in year two now and he's moved his way up in the air force. He was working on jets for a while, but coordinates airstrikes now I think. And I'm almost positive the bachelor's will make you officer when you go in. Again, ask, but you're better off asking a friend who is in, as opposed to a recruiter. They're paid to sell you shit, just like car salesmen =]
The shitty thing is though, and I'm sure you've heard this, is that the military doesn't care what YOU want, it goes by what they need. So you could sign up for one thing, but if there's a shortage of meat, they might stick you elsewhere. I don't know if that means you could sign as a Air Force guy and end up an infantry grunt, but you're not necessarily gaurenteed anything. Yeah I've heard some horror stories here and there. Most of the military people I know were Navy or Marines, and didn't get their ideal jobs. I'm hoping that degree gives an advantage :O Joining as an officer would be awesome, I was looking at their pay scale: Officers start at minimum salary 30,668, not bad. I'm below poverty level right now; that would be high life!
in no time you have BS degree for CS. And you will definitely make more than a measily 30k. Right now my payrate is equivalent to 60k a year(tax not calculated) and I'm only half way to BS degree.
BTW the Air Force may not be as exciting as it might be. With your degree I suggest applying as a programming/techie for them. But as an officer.. i think that's a waste.
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officer academy is the only way to go, you gotta be insane if you want to go as a grunt.
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