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I'll start lesson 1 tonight.
A quick question, because I just don't seem to be able to understand this concept: How can you learn words from pictures? Like, I understand that they are trying to teach you Korean so you refer to pictures/etc. instead of trying to piece apart the Korean with English. But I mean, if I also use a Korean Dictionary, would that defeat the purpose of the exercise? I used a Korean Dictionary while using "25 Languages for Travel" or whatever, I think I used zKorean.net because I had troubles understanding that a picture of a girl standing in the middle of the street was a fuckin "Niece" or "Aunt", and not a "Whore".
OH WELL LETS SEE HOW THIS GOES TONITE.
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On October 14 2008 00:34 Tibs wrote:Rosetta Stone works in means of direct teaching with zero english. Theres a certain word that describes it, just cant think of it off the top of my head. Basically, its just drilling symbols and pictures into your brain for hours, that directs certain meanings/words/symbols/sayings that will help you learn the language. If you dont have the patience to try something like this, its not worth it to buy/download it. For Spanish, just fly down here to Arizona and just find a illegal. Tell them to tutor you or you call INS. That one is simple. For Korean, if you know any Korean friends that can help you learn some basics or you could try this website. + Show Spoiler +http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/ - its not much but it'll get you started on some hangul and some simple sayings.
Flying down to arizona to learn a language sounds like it would be a large time commitment. And at least mean to the illegal xD
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On October 14 2008 00:43 SCC-Faust wrote:
I'll start lesson 1 tonight.
A quick question, because I just don't seem to be able to understand this concept: How can you learn words from pictures? Like, I understand that they are trying to teach you Korean so you refer to pictures/etc. instead of trying to piece apart the Korean with English. But I mean, if I also use a Korean Dictionary, would that defeat the purpose of the exercise? I used a Korean Dictionary while using "25 Languages for Travel" or whatever, I think I used zKorean.net because I had troubles understanding that a picture of a girl standing in the middle of the street was a fuckin "Niece" or "Aunt", and not a "Whore".
OH WELL LETS SEE HOW THIS GOES TONITE.
You're supposed to learn words from pictures because it's supposed to help you memorize better. Using the same example from an above poster, apple=picture of an apple is supposed to be easier/better to remember than apple=characters that represent apple. If you think about how/when you try to recall the word apple, it might be easier to recall apple when you have the picture to word correlation memorized, instead of the picture to character correlation memorized.
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Anybody have any idea how much you should learn from RS after completing all 3 packages? Like, what should your expectations be? (level of fluency, X grade level speaker, etc..)
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On October 14 2008 01:58 SirNeb wrote:
Anybody have any idea how much you should learn from RS after completing all 3 packages? Like, what should your expectations be? (level of fluency, X grade level speaker, etc..)
Probably depends on your intelligence, determination, and flat out patience like any other learning tool.
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The expectations after completely Korean 1 (beginner), 2 (moderate), 3 (advanced), is to be able to hold a conversation, address daily tasks, and basically be able to speak enough of the langauge to get by on a daily basis.
Level 1 isnt that bad, I did it a few months ago and Im able to at least hold a small conversation. Basically address who Im speaking too in a informal or formal manner, ask how they are doing, its nice to meet them, order some general food products, and address a general question of wanting/needing something.
Its not much, but it gets you by for the most part. Im gonna get a copy of sections 2 and 3, once I get re-enlisted in the Air-Force since I very well might be re-enlisting into Linguistics instead of my current MOS's.
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Rosetta Stone blows.
I think that a lot of time, the grammar in Korean is too complex to learn in the way Rosetta Stone tries to teach it. Maybe it would have worked better for me if I were smarter.
If you're serious about learning Korean, I would just get a big fat textbook. I wish I had started that way.
Otherwise, a good resource is Koreanclass101.com. You can find a lot of their stuff illegally. I wouldn't recommend Koreanclass101.com unless you can get access to the .pdf's, at least when you're starting out.
I did find one program that might be useful for you. I believe it covers all the basic grammar. I didn't use it because I had covered most everything by the time I found it, but it looked decent. It think it DeClan's Hakyo or hakseng or something similar. It's part of a set of 4 programs for learning Korean.
I tried to find those programs illegally, but I could only find 1.0 versions, which are no where near as good as current versions. However, I still think the grammar-teaching one might be helpful to you. PM me if you have trouble finding it...although I'm not 100% people are still seeding it.
Some resources:
http://www.wiktionary.org/ : The amazing thing about wiktionary, is that a lot of words have full conjugation charts, and so if you have no idea how to put what you're looking for in dictionary form, you can just dump all of it in and it may pop up.
http://dic.naver.com/ : Better dictionary once you learn to drop particles and such.
http://bonewso.net/koreangrammar/tiki-index.php?page=Korean Grammar Database : Pretty nice collection of grammar.
Good luck.
edit: I didn't realize they had released levels 2 and 3 -- maybe I'll give it another try.
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Well I think Rosetta Stone isn't all bad. I'm more of a visually oriented person so it fits me well for learning vocab that way
only thing I find to be really sucky is the fact that they assume you already know the alphabet of the language you're learning, which I did, but still they should at least give some introductory alphabet lesson
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That program doesn't look all bad, the word horse is associated with horseback riding in your head and using your understanding of a word makes it much easier for you to remember than simply trying to learn words. It is waaaaay more likely to enter your long term memory if you think about the word's meaning and then associate it with the korean version of the word.
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Well this has gotten me interested in learning another language, and I actually have the time to do it.
I'm bilingual so I know both English, and Spanish extremely well. I can speak fluently, and write in both. My question is rather simple, and maybe idiotic...
What's a good language to learn? There are a lot of ways to interpret this question...
Maybe I'm simply saying what's a language to learn that will defiantly help me out in life?, and might be simple since I know Spanish... I'm guessing any of the romantic languages would suffice.
However, I'd like to know Mandarin, or Japanese since it would be good for me down the long run, job wise speaking.
Any suggestions? Sorry, I'm just having some creative thoughts.
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I think Chinese is a good language to learn.
I really want to brush up on my Spanish as well as learn Korean, Chinese, Japanese.
Even though they are pretty close to each other they are all very important and very useful.
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On October 14 2008 06:51 Mickey wrote:
Well this has gotten me interested in learning another language, and I actually have the time to do it.
I'm bilingual so I know both English, and Spanish extremely well. I can speak fluently, and write in both. My question is rather simple, and maybe idiotic...
What's a good language to learn? There are a lot of ways to interpret this question...
Maybe I'm simply saying what's a language to learn that will defiantly help me out in life?, and might be simple since I know Spanish... I'm guessing any of the romantic languages would suffice.
However, I'd like to know Mandarin, or Japanese since it would be good for me down the long run, job wise speaking.
Any suggestions? Sorry, I'm just having some creative thoughts.
English, French, and Spanish have covered a huge portion of the world for me so far. I think if you learn those three and Mandarin, you're set.
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Quick Korean question.
I just tried translating a picture of a boy, which is: 남자아이
But when I searched on zKorean.com Dictionary it said cannot find definition. THE SHIT?
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its basically a young male kid.
남자 = Male/Man
아이 = Child/Kid
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