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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 14:36:36
October 03 2008 14:33 GMT
#21
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


Never said i'm good, but i'm playing with people way worse and it is still hard to increase my br. ( thanks 20% rake on micro :O ).

I just wanted to say that downswings always happen, especially when u play sngs.
It is like when i say "hey i'm D level, i think that D- people suck but my win rate vs them is only 80%"
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32071 Posts
October 03 2008 14:35 GMT
#22
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


What was that thread about this??
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25981 Posts
October 03 2008 14:39 GMT
#23
On October 03 2008 23:33 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


Never said i'm good, but i'm playing with people way worse and it is still hard to increase my br. ( thanks 20% rake on micro :O ).

I just wanted to say that downswings always happen, especially when u play sngs.
It is like when i say "hey i'm D level, i think that D- people suck but my win rate vs them is only 80%"

Oh I wasn't refering to you at all; Just in general to the people who go "I had $50 and now I have $100 why is poker so easy?"
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 14:42 GMT
#24
I agree with you. Variance is so huge in this game that you need a large sample of hands or sngs to know if you are really a profitable and skilled player.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32071 Posts
October 03 2008 14:46 GMT
#25
On October 03 2008 23:39 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2008 23:33 Boblion wrote:
On October 03 2008 23:16 Chill wrote:
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.


Never said i'm good, but i'm playing with people way worse and it is still hard to increase my br. ( thanks 20% rake on micro :O ).

I just wanted to say that downswings always happen, especially when u play sngs.
It is like when i say "hey i'm D level, i think that D- people suck but my win rate vs them is only 80%"

Oh I wasn't refering to you at all; Just in general to the people who go "I had $50 and now I have $100 why is poker so easy?"


I know I suck at least. When I win 20$, I know that I'll balance it out in a few days and I;ll wanna smash my labtop again
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geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
October 03 2008 15:24 GMT
#26
please give me some tips.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 16:14:52
October 03 2008 15:59 GMT
#27
On October 04 2008 00:24 geometryb wrote:
please give me some tips.


I'm not good so if my advices are bad, more skilled players can correct me .

For low level sngs ( 6 players 1$ ):

- Play because you like poker. If you want to play poker because you are bored / you need money / you like to gamble, you will actually lose $. Only play when you are "ready" because you will need patience. If you just want to have fun, play bw.

- Respect Bankroll management. You need at least 30 buy in or variance will rape you soon or later.

- Respect position, it is very important.

- Ax X < 10 are crappy, i don't like them and i only play them if i'm in a desperate situation ( low on chips and i will shove ) or big stack. The problem with this kind of hand is that even if u get an A on the flop someone has maybe an higher Ax. Nearly auto-fold if you are not in position. You can play them if they are of the same color.

- Fold your AK / AQ / AJ / AA / JJ / KK / QQ if you feel that you are doomed. Any straight / flush own this. Beginners often think that this kind of hand is awesome but i fold them sometimes if the board is too scary.

- Bet big pre flop when you have a good hand ( when you are in hu you can slowplay ) because slowplaying is really bad early game when many players are involved in action ( except if you have a monster combo on the flop ).

- In sng i like to limp with small pockets when it isn't expensive ( early game ) because sets are real gold mines. But when the blinds are higher it is auto fold except if i'm short stack ( i will shove to get a coin flip ) or big stack facing a short stack ( same reason ).


- read stuff on Liquid Poker ( the best advice in my post lol ).




fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 18:03:43
October 03 2008 18:03 GMT
#28
20-25 buyins is perfectly fine for low stakes, assuming you have tilt control and can move down when you drop below it (say when you drop to 15 buyins or something)
EDIT: I see you were talking about Sit n gos, I don't play those so maybe you need more buyins for that, I dunno.
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