• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:08
CET 13:08
KST 21:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy4ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13
Community News
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool22Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win32026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Serral: 24’ EWC form was hurt by military service Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?
Tourneys
KSL Week 87 [GSL CK] #2: Team Classic vs. Team Solar 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] #1: Team Maru vs. Team herO RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 517 Distant Threat Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ JaeDong's form before ASL Gypsy to Korea BSL Season 22
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7844 users

The Idea behind anything

Blogs > Zalfor
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 16:36:23
October 03 2008 03:46 GMT
#1
Is there no light at the end of the tunnel?

Is the tunnel just a tunnel forever?

*
555, kthxbai
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 03:54:47
October 03 2008 03:54 GMT
#2
hi john! stop playing poker
StormSnarlX
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States278 Posts
October 03 2008 04:20 GMT
#3
what site do u use? and was that 50 free? im also thinking of playing online too.
Catz Forever <3
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 03 2008 04:37 GMT
#4
Players often get sponsored at the top levels, in fact if you go to a tournament and are unknown but do well you will get offered a sponsorship deal for your broadcasted tables, I think. I just noticed it since some players start in T shirts and end in full Poker Stars regalia.

btw have you though about how to get ur money?
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 03 2008 04:40 GMT
#5
They keep playing to try an win their money back is one guess. The other is they see people on TV winning $200,000+ in a couple days at a tournament and think, "Hell, that looks easy I can do that too!"
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
October 03 2008 04:50 GMT
#6
At the pro level, they win with bluffs and luck. They're all capable of making the calculations for probability for the various draws available to them, but still... imo it's bluffs and luck.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 03 2008 04:50 GMT
#7
"dumb people" that are bad at poker throw money at poker because it's fun and they really enjoy it.

That or they're addicted
Trucy Wright is hot
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24758 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 04:54:08
October 03 2008 04:53 GMT
#8
I'm amazed the bubble hasn't burst yet. Poker still appears to be a viable career path!

edit: oh btw the title was a little over-general I think :-/
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#9
Fun..?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
October 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#10
A lot of young and upcoming poker players start playing small. The next step is playing satellites and getting invitationals to small tournaments. Here's the payout list for the 2008 World Series of Poker Main Event
Payouts
1. $9.1 million 6. $2.4 million
2. $5.8 million 7. $1.7 million
3. $4.5 million 8. $1.2 million
4. $3.7 million 9. $900k
5. $3.0 million

Ridiculous at how much money that is.
pirate cod
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
810 Posts
October 03 2008 06:23 GMT
#11
This is why:

"Dumb person":
So the idea behind poker is to earn as much money as possible from dumb people who play bad hands.

So, I figure I'm not dumb, I can capitalize on dumb people.


No offense.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 03 2008 07:13 GMT
#12
chances are youre playing stakes much too high for your bankroll to handle and youre on a heater. dont get too excited.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
October 03 2008 07:33 GMT
#13
go play at high stakes and take the dumb players' monies.

go now.
^_~
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
October 03 2008 09:11 GMT
#14
Playing poker against dumb people is unethical. Although they are willing participants, they don't know what's good for them.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 11:02:16
October 03 2008 10:57 GMT
#15
On October 03 2008 18:11 stenole wrote:
Playing poker against dumb people is unethical. Although they are willing participants, they don't know what's good for them.

Sigh.
You are making it sound like they are mentally handicapped, completely incapable of independent thought while a lot of the huge fish are probably very smart and very succesful people, seeing as how they somehow managed to accumulate enough money to play poker for a lot of money.

If we are talking lower levels, then who cares if the players are dumb or not? Nobody is going to get hurt from losing a couple of hundred playing some low limit games -_-

As for how the top level players earn money, well, I don't play nosebleed games but I suppose the really sick players feed off the slightly less sick players + the whales (such as Guy LaLiberte of Cirque du soleil fame, the 40 000, 60 000 and 100 000$ buyin tables fill up faaaaaaast when he's playing).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 11:10 GMT
#16
Don't be overconfident because mother variance can fuck you really badly if she wants.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 11:23 GMT
#17
Btw you are playing cash or sngs ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
October 03 2008 13:18 GMT
#18
First one should become a psychical hardstone.
Then playing cash will make you grow your capital faster than s&g.
When your capital is big enough going for big sponsored tourney is a good way to go.

Cash -> Capital
Capital -> Tourneys
Tourneys -> Fame&Fortune
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 13:59:35
October 03 2008 13:56 GMT
#19
Don't want to be lame but i expect a whine blog soon :D
Grinding in Sngs is quite horrible imo. I know that i'm playing with horrible monkeys but after 600 games i only X2ed my br and i'm still being raped by the 20% rake of 1$ sng ...
Maybe with 300 more games i gonna have a br 90 euros and take a shot at 5$ sngs or cash games
Quite depressing life time graph:
[image loading]


As you can see even with horrible opponents ( the others guys stats ) downswings can happen :o. Maybe i suck a bit too.

I just ended my worst loss streak ( 12 short handed sngs without being ITM ) x).
-12 euros yea !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25996 Posts
October 03 2008 14:16 GMT
#20
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.
Moderator
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
12:00
Group B
WardiTV170
3DClanTV 12
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko309
SortOf 152
ProTech28
TKL 13
IndyStarCraft 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39945
Sea 2164
Killer 803
Jaedong 720
BeSt 463
Rush 381
Mini 283
EffOrt 268
Larva 241
Soma 225
[ Show more ]
Stork 184
Light 176
Snow 171
ZerO 106
Sharp 99
hero 78
ToSsGirL 78
Sea.KH 48
Mind 45
Shine 45
Backho 40
Barracks 27
[sc1f]eonzerg 25
soO 23
Movie 18
Bale 17
Icarus 14
Terrorterran 12
Noble 10
Dota 2
XaKoH 490
XcaliburYe324
canceldota80
BananaSlamJamma49
Counter-Strike
fl0m1912
pashabiceps1499
Fnx 1379
shoxiejesuss700
x6flipin280
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King48
Westballz17
Other Games
singsing3365
B2W.Neo894
crisheroes276
Sick193
hiko90
ToD62
QueenE43
Trikslyr18
ZerO(Twitch)8
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream149
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota290
League of Legends
• Jankos675
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
4h 52m
LetaleX vs Babymarine
Harstem vs GgMaChine
Clem vs Serral
Korean StarCraft League
14h 52m
RSL Revival
21h 52m
Maru vs Zoun
Cure vs ByuN
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 2h
BSL
1d 7h
RSL Revival
1d 21h
herO vs MaxPax
Rogue vs TriGGeR
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Sharp vs Scan
Rain vs Mong
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soulkey vs Ample
JyJ vs sSak
Replay Cast
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
hero vs YSC
Larva vs Shine
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-18
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.