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Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 16:36:23
October 03 2008 03:46 GMT
#1
Is there no light at the end of the tunnel?

Is the tunnel just a tunnel forever?

*
555, kthxbai
xiaofan
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States513 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 03:54:47
October 03 2008 03:54 GMT
#2
hi john! stop playing poker
StormSnarlX
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States278 Posts
October 03 2008 04:20 GMT
#3
what site do u use? and was that 50 free? im also thinking of playing online too.
Catz Forever <3
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
October 03 2008 04:37 GMT
#4
Players often get sponsored at the top levels, in fact if you go to a tournament and are unknown but do well you will get offered a sponsorship deal for your broadcasted tables, I think. I just noticed it since some players start in T shirts and end in full Poker Stars regalia.

btw have you though about how to get ur money?
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
October 03 2008 04:40 GMT
#5
They keep playing to try an win their money back is one guess. The other is they see people on TV winning $200,000+ in a couple days at a tournament and think, "Hell, that looks easy I can do that too!"
xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
October 03 2008 04:50 GMT
#6
At the pro level, they win with bluffs and luck. They're all capable of making the calculations for probability for the various draws available to them, but still... imo it's bluffs and luck.
“Life is too short to embrace a woman I don’t love. I also think a woman’s life is too short to be embraced by a man she doesn’t love.” | CSGO: Cure Moonlight
Purind
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Canada3562 Posts
October 03 2008 04:50 GMT
#7
"dumb people" that are bad at poker throw money at poker because it's fun and they really enjoy it.

That or they're addicted
Trucy Wright is hot
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 04:54:08
October 03 2008 04:53 GMT
#8
I'm amazed the bubble hasn't burst yet. Poker still appears to be a viable career path!

edit: oh btw the title was a little over-general I think :-/
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#9
Fun..?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
renegade_zerg
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Korea (South)525 Posts
October 03 2008 05:20 GMT
#10
A lot of young and upcoming poker players start playing small. The next step is playing satellites and getting invitationals to small tournaments. Here's the payout list for the 2008 World Series of Poker Main Event
Payouts
1. $9.1 million 6. $2.4 million
2. $5.8 million 7. $1.7 million
3. $4.5 million 8. $1.2 million
4. $3.7 million 9. $900k
5. $3.0 million

Ridiculous at how much money that is.
pirate cod
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
810 Posts
October 03 2008 06:23 GMT
#11
This is why:

"Dumb person":
So the idea behind poker is to earn as much money as possible from dumb people who play bad hands.

So, I figure I'm not dumb, I can capitalize on dumb people.


No offense.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 03 2008 07:13 GMT
#12
chances are youre playing stakes much too high for your bankroll to handle and youre on a heater. dont get too excited.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
lazymej
Profile Joined February 2006
Canada269 Posts
October 03 2008 07:33 GMT
#13
go play at high stakes and take the dumb players' monies.

go now.
^_~
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
October 03 2008 09:11 GMT
#14
Playing poker against dumb people is unethical. Although they are willing participants, they don't know what's good for them.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 11:02:16
October 03 2008 10:57 GMT
#15
On October 03 2008 18:11 stenole wrote:
Playing poker against dumb people is unethical. Although they are willing participants, they don't know what's good for them.

Sigh.
You are making it sound like they are mentally handicapped, completely incapable of independent thought while a lot of the huge fish are probably very smart and very succesful people, seeing as how they somehow managed to accumulate enough money to play poker for a lot of money.

If we are talking lower levels, then who cares if the players are dumb or not? Nobody is going to get hurt from losing a couple of hundred playing some low limit games -_-

As for how the top level players earn money, well, I don't play nosebleed games but I suppose the really sick players feed off the slightly less sick players + the whales (such as Guy LaLiberte of Cirque du soleil fame, the 40 000, 60 000 and 100 000$ buyin tables fill up faaaaaaast when he's playing).
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 11:10 GMT
#16
Don't be overconfident because mother variance can fuck you really badly if she wants.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
October 03 2008 11:23 GMT
#17
Btw you are playing cash or sngs ?
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
LastWish
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
2015 Posts
October 03 2008 13:18 GMT
#18
First one should become a psychical hardstone.
Then playing cash will make you grow your capital faster than s&g.
When your capital is big enough going for big sponsored tourney is a good way to go.

Cash -> Capital
Capital -> Tourneys
Tourneys -> Fame&Fortune
- It's all just treason - They bring me down with their lies - Don't know the reason - My life is fire and ice -
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-03 13:59:35
October 03 2008 13:56 GMT
#19
Don't want to be lame but i expect a whine blog soon :D
Grinding in Sngs is quite horrible imo. I know that i'm playing with horrible monkeys but after 600 games i only X2ed my br and i'm still being raped by the 20% rake of 1$ sng ...
Maybe with 300 more games i gonna have a br 90 euros and take a shot at 5$ sngs or cash games
Quite depressing life time graph:
[image loading]


As you can see even with horrible opponents ( the others guys stats ) downswings can happen :o. Maybe i suck a bit too.

I just ended my worst loss streak ( 12 short handed sngs without being ITM ) x).
-12 euros yea !
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
October 03 2008 14:16 GMT
#20
People who are so ignorant that they can't see how unskilled they are really annoy me.
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