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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51558 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 12:11:57
September 20 2008 11:48 GMT
#1
Introduction

So I decided to pick up this Flash simulator made by some Korean guy and figured, if all the best players of our time played in one tournament, who would win?

Groups

Using Hot_Bid's Starleague Evaluation and my own self-evaluation, I have assembled the best sixteen players Korea has shown us over the last eight years.

Group A
(T)NaDa
(P)Nal_rA
(P)GARIMTO
(T)Flash

Group B
(T)iloveoov
(Z)July
(P)Kingdom
(Z)Jaedong

Group C
(Z)sAviOr
(P)Reach
(P)Anytime
(P)Stork

Group D
(T)BoxeR
(Z)YellOw
(T)XellOs
(P)Bisu

Maps

The maps were chosen on the basis of Manifesto7's Final Edit, Celestial Terrain.
Since Rush Hour was not included in this simulator (I wish to update the simulator somehow to incorporate the TLPD into it... one day), I replaced it with the next highest ranked map.

Thus the maps chosen were;
Neo Requiem
Sin Peaks of Baekdu
Bifrost III
Ride of Valkyries

Group Stages

Here we go!

Week 1
Group A: (T)NaDa < Bifrost III > (P)Nal_rA
Group B: (P)Kingdom < Ride of Valkyries > (Z)Jaedong
Group C: (Z)sAviOr < Neo Requiem > (P)Reach
Group D: (T)XellOs < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)Bisu

Week 2
Group A: (P)GARIMTO < Ride of Valkyries > (T)Flash
Group B: (T)iloveoov < Neo Requiem > (Z)July
Group C: (P)Anytime < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)Stork
Group D: (T)BoxeR < Bifrost III > (Z)YellOw

Week 3
Group A: (T)NaDa < Neo Requiem > (P)GARIMTO
Group B: (Z)July < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (Z)Jaedong
Group C: (Z)sAviOr < Bifrost III > (P)Anytime
Group D: (Z)YellOw < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Bisu

Week 4
Group A: (P)Nal_rA < Neo Requiem > (T)Flash
Group B: (T)iloveoov < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)Kingdom
Group C: (P)Reach < Bifrost III > (P)Stork
Group D: (T)BoxeR < Ride of Valkyries > (T)XellOs

Week 5
Group A: (T)NaDa < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (T)Flash
Group B: (Z)July < Bifrost III > (P)Kingdom
Group C: (Z)sAviOr < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Stork
Group D: (Z)YellOw < Neo Requiem > (T)XellOs

Week 6
Group A: (P)Nal_rA < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)GARIMTO
Group B: (T)iloveoov < Bifrost III > (Z)Jaedong
Group C: (P)Reach < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Anytime
Group D: (T)BoxeR < Neo Requiem > (P)Bisu

Group Results

Group A
(P)Nal_rA - 2-1
(P)GARIMTO - 2-1
(T)NaDa - 1-2
(T)Flash - 1-2

Group B
(Z)Jaedong - 2-1
(P)Kingdom - 2-1
(T)iloveoov - 1-2
(Z)July - 1-2

Group C
(P)Reach - 3-0
(Z)sAviOr - 2-1
(P)Anytime - 1-2
(P)Stork - 0-3

Group D
(Z)YellOw - 3-0
(T)XellOs - 2-1
(T)BoxeR - 1-2
(P)Bisu - 0-3

Italics are the advancees.

Finals

Quarter Final 1
(P)Nal_rA < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (Z)sAviOr
(P)Nal_rA < Bifrost III > (Z)sAviOr

Quarter Final 2
(P)Reach < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)Kingdom
(P)Reach < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Kingdom
(P)Reach < Bifrost III > (P)Kingdom

Quarter Final 3
(T)XellOs < Ride of Valkyries > (Z)Jaedong
(T)XellOs < Bifrost III > (Z)Jaedong
(T)XellOs < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (Z)Jaedong

Quarter Final 4
(Z)YellOw < Neo Requiem > (P)GARIMTO
(Z)YellOw < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)GARIMTO
(Z)YellOw < Ride of Valkyries > (P)GARIMTO

Semi Final 1
(P)Nal_rA < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Kingdom
(P)Nal_rA < Bifrost III > (P)Kingdom
(P)Nal_rA < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)Kingdom
(P)Nal_rA < Neo Requiem > (P)Kingdom
(P)Nal_rA < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Kingdom

Semi Final 1
(Z)Jaedong < Bifrost III > (P)GARIMTO
(Z)Jaedong < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)GARIMTO
(Z)Jaedong < Neo Requiem > (P)GARIMTO
(Z)Jaedong < Ride of Valkyries > (P)GARIMTO

3rd and 4th Place
(Z)Jaedong < Neo Requiem > (P)Kingdom
(Z)Jaedong < Ride of Valkyries > (P)Kingdom
(Z)Jaedong < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)Kingdom

Grand Final
(P)Nal_rA < Sin Peaks of Baekdu > (P)GARIMTO
(P)Nal_rA < Ride of Valkyries > (P)GARIMTO
(P)Nal_rA < Bifrost III > (P)GARIMTO
(P)Nal_rA < Neo Requiem > (P)GARIMTO

1st: (P)Nal_rA
2nd: (P)GARIMTO
3rd: (Z)Jaedong
4th: (P)Kingdom

****
Commentator
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
September 20 2008 11:50 GMT
#2
._.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
TonyL2
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
England1953 Posts
September 20 2008 11:55 GMT
#3
I take it this is when they were in their prime etc

But Bisu got owned
Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 11:57:11
September 20 2008 11:55 GMT
#4
o.0

Hah Bisu
Manly Reach
< TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #46 > I came for the Brood War, I stayed for the people.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
September 20 2008 12:04 GMT
#5
lol Bisu losing to Yellow. This simulator knows what we all hope for.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 20 2008 12:08 GMT
#6
Yes! Reach show em'!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 12:25:25
September 20 2008 12:25 GMT
#7
Fuck. YellOw didn't win.

At least my boys were the only undefeateds in group.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
September 20 2008 12:29 GMT
#8
yeah kang min hwaiting!
http://twitter.com/jhNz
LaLuSh
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden2358 Posts
September 20 2008 12:41 GMT
#9
kang min best ever
Dyllyn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Singapore670 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 12:51:41
September 20 2008 12:47 GMT
#10
3 out of the top 4 are toss and iloveoov nowhere in sight? toss never had that kind of dominance (the only toss in the top 10 elo peaks is stork)
where are the golden mousers? july died of fats?
yellow>boxer?!?!

garinto has better pvp stats than nal_ra!

sorry for bitching.. but what the ....???
scv rush ftw
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
September 20 2008 12:54 GMT
#11
obviously its flawed because if you put real values indicative of players respective peaks, iloveoov would have taken the entire thing without losing
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
September 20 2008 13:19 GMT
#12
Well my theory is that players rise because they found a way to beat the best. So that would mean even in their prime, wouldn't the modern players win anyway?
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
September 20 2008 13:21 GMT
#13
SImulator is certainly subject to assumption and parameters. What are they in Flash one? Is Toss given more weight that it comes out with 3 tosses and how many times you simulated
otherwise, BIASED!!! I bet if you replicate the work it comes out entirely different. 4 Terrans hopefully XD
Why dont you try many times and compile the results
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
sillyboy_tomato
Profile Joined July 2008
United States157 Posts
September 20 2008 13:22 GMT
#14
if their prime. I would want to see Chojja there
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 20 2008 13:32 GMT
#15
This is reaaaaaally inaccurate imo. Garimto couldn't beat Flash and Nada without insane luck (this is assuming games were played in respective players primes), let alone make the finals over Jaedong.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 20 2008 13:41 GMT
#16
Haha sure!

If it was REAL (players skill was their skill during their prime):

1. Iloveoov
2. Savior
3. XellOs
4. NaDa maybe...
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 20 2008 13:47 GMT
#17
Btw where is vods??
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
September 20 2008 14:03 GMT
#18
rofl wtffffffff crazy results
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
September 20 2008 14:09 GMT
#19
On September 20 2008 22:41 Zoler wrote:
Haha sure!

If it was REAL (players skill was their skill during their prime):

1. Iloveoov
2. Savior
3. XellOs
4. NaDa maybe...


Xellos third? Really?
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
QuietIdiot
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
7004 Posts
September 20 2008 14:14 GMT
#20
hahah sick results

But in all honesty Garimto would get horribly raped, even in his prime, he wouldn't match up to many of those guys.
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