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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3330 Posts
September 06 2008 03:22 GMT
#1
Here is what happened. I had a AMD 4400+ with a decent 256MB Geforce card /w 200 GB hard drive. I managed to mess up the motherboard and I think I fried part of it. Anyways till I go and buy another motherboad I am left with my PII 450 MHz comp with 327 MB of Ram. I think it has 4MB for its Video Card lol. My Primary Drive [C:\] is 6 GB with about 700 MB left. I have Windows on that and Starcraft + Alpha Centuri [I installed it but I have not got to playing it yet].

My second drive [D:\] is 4 GB with about 300 MB in use. I moved everything to the C drive. I am downloading Baldur's Gate.

I just want people to know I actually biked 30 minutes today to Future Shop/Staples/EB games to actually look for the original game but I could not find it. I found Baldur's Gate II and bought that and Civilization III. I wanted to play these games cause thats all this computer can take lol.

Anways I am downloading the orginal Baldur's Gate and that is about 4.19 GB which is more then my D:\ Drive lol. SO I am not downloading the last CD for the expansion cause I need CD 1-5 to install and then I can free up space and once I finish that game [might take a while or I get bored] then I can install the expansion and the Baldur's Gate II.

Questions...

1) I know Baldur's Gate is based off D&D. Should I read the rules for that. I downloaded Dungeons And Dragons - Player's Handbook (4th Edition).

2) Is it enought to read the Baldur's Gate manual. I got that off Bioware site. I will also read their FAQ for Baldur's Game after reading the manual.

3) How long does it take to finish the game. I will not be playing it on Multi-Player. Should I install the expansion right away or after I finish Balder's Gate. [I am not talking about the sequal].


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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 06 2008 03:40 GMT
#2
On September 06 2008 12:22 Yaqoob wrote:
1) I know Baldur's Gate is based off D&D. Should I read the rules for that. I downloaded Dungeons And Dragons - Player's Handbook (4th Edition).


Baldur's Gate is based on 2nd edition. 4th edition rules are vastly different.

2) Is it enought to read the Baldur's Gate manual. I got that off Bioware site. I will also read their FAQ for Baldur's Game after reading the manual.


Yeah, it should be enough.

3) How long does it take to finish the game. I will not be playing it on Multi-Player. Should I install the expansion right away or after I finish Balder's Gate. [I am not talking about the sequal].


ToSC adds new areas that are accessible during the normal course of the game. There's no reason not to install it right away.
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Sindri
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia56 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 03:42:51
September 06 2008 03:41 GMT
#3
1) Baldur's Gate is a decade old now and based on the D&D 2nd edition ruleset. VERY different from the current 4th edition. Reading the 4th edition rules will not help you at all and probably just confuse you.

2) The manual should be fine. It might take awhile to feel comfortable, but you will get there.

3) The expansion, Tales of the Sword Coast? Yes, the new areas are not played after you finish the original game, but added into the existing game world, meaning you can do them whenever you want and encounter them during your travels about the world. They are quite a bit harder than the original game's content, however.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3330 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 04:04:43
September 06 2008 04:03 GMT
#4
After I install the Balder's Gate game files then I will download and install the expansion. I am working on limited hard drive space.

Thanks
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Februarys
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Korea (South)259 Posts
September 06 2008 04:44 GMT
#5
Holy fuck i welcome you to play BG

I am a huge fan of BG2 but I never played BG1 and I'm thinking about getting into that.

Seriously get BG2 after you play BG1...its incredible...the music, voices, storyline, characters everything makes it seem like you're seriously role playing in a story

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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3330 Posts
September 06 2008 05:06 GMT
#6
I bought BG2 but I am downloading BG1 cause I could not find any store that had it.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
September 06 2008 05:20 GMT
#7
Play a real game... like Final Fantasy if your bored of Starcraft
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 06 2008 05:21 GMT
#8
Install the expansion right away, all it does is add some stuff you can normally get to.

Secondly, welcome to one of the best works of art in gaming history, my recommendation is once you have beaten baldur's gate, go out and buy if you can or download planescape torment. Much better game, and also based off the second edition dnd rule set.
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
September 06 2008 05:42 GMT
#9
Icewind Dale ruined BG1 or 2 for me.I played it first and couldnt cope with the text/make-up of them after playing icewind dale a far better version of the same thing ..kinda.^_^
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 06 2008 05:48 GMT
#10
On September 06 2008 14:42 FuDDx wrote:
Icewind Dale ruined BG1 or 2 for me.I played it first and couldnt cope with the text/make-up of them after playing icewind dale a far better version of the same thing ..kinda.^_^


Icewind dale was horrible in comparison IMO, the story just wasnt enough to draw me in, nor was it really fun to play.
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0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
September 06 2008 07:45 GMT
#11
Here's how to install Baldur's Gate + TotSC:

If you have the 3 CD or 1 DVD version of Baldur's Gate including TotSC:
No patches needed TotSC 1.3.5512 is latest version.

If you have the old 5 CD version + 1 CD ToTSC:
1. Install Baldur's Gate
2. Make sure game version is 1.1.4315. If not, install official patch
3. Install Tales of the Sword Coast
4. Install official TotSC patch version 1.3.5512
5. For multiplayer only: Install official TotSC DirectX 8+ patch (self-extracting unpacker, just unpack to Baldur's Gate directory, it will extract 1 file (BGMain2.exe))

Next, edit baldur.ini:
- add "memory access=100" (if missing) to [Game Options],
then you can activate blood in the options
- change "Path Search Nodes=4000" to 32000,
then you have much better path finding
(requires at least a Pentium II)
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 08:17:07
September 06 2008 08:16 GMT
#12
Icewind Dale isn't bad, you just have to know beforehand that it's mostly combat and almost no story, no NPC banters etc., then you won't be disappointed when you try it.
It's like a dumbed down Baldur's Gate for the Diablo crowd.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
September 06 2008 13:29 GMT
#13
BG 1, Tales of the Swordcoast, BG 2, Throne of Bhaal series is amongst my top 3 singleplayer games of all time along with the Fallout and Jagged Alliance series.

(Of all series the 2nd games are the best for me somehow )
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 06 2008 14:12 GMT
#14
On September 06 2008 16:45 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Here's how to install Baldur's Gate + TotSC:

Show nested quote +
If you have the 3 CD or 1 DVD version of Baldur's Gate including TotSC:
No patches needed TotSC 1.3.5512 is latest version.

If you have the old 5 CD version + 1 CD ToTSC:
1. Install Baldur's Gate
2. Make sure game version is 1.1.4315. If not, install official patch
3. Install Tales of the Sword Coast
4. Install official TotSC patch version 1.3.5512
5. For multiplayer only: Install official TotSC DirectX 8+ patch (self-extracting unpacker, just unpack to Baldur's Gate directory, it will extract 1 file (BGMain2.exe))

Next, edit baldur.ini:
- add "memory access=100" (if missing) to [Game Options],
then you can activate blood in the options
- change "Path Search Nodes=4000" to 32000,
then you have much better path finding
(requires at least a Pentium II)


Better path finding? That makes one optional fight nearly impossible. ~_~
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0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 14:51:29
September 06 2008 14:50 GMT
#15
You mean killing + Show Spoiler +
Drizzt
from across the lake? Cheesy. :p
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 06 2008 15:18 GMT
#16
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3330 Posts
September 06 2008 15:34 GMT
#17
My CD Burner works again so now I shouldn't have to worry about limited hard drive space anymore.
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 15:41:04
September 06 2008 15:39 GMT
#18
Honestly playing BG1 without using Tutu (a program that lets you play BG1 in the BG2 engine) would be really painful. Problem is you'd need like 8gb, since both games need to be fully installed.

It's a worse game in almost every regard, but BG2 is probably the best CRPG ever made, so that's kind of a given.

But playing BG1 before BG2 could put you off the series, and it'd be a shame since BG2 owns so much. I'd reccomend just playing BG2 first, and then when you get your comp back install BG1 + TOSC with Tutu and replay the whole series.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-06 17:10:57
September 06 2008 17:03 GMT
#19
Yep (Easy)Tutu is great, but I prefer Baldur's Gate Trilogy. It basically does the same (allow you to play BG1 in the BG2 engine with all the benefits including higher resolution, pressing TAB to see what objects you can interact with, and other things).
In addition to that, it lets you have a continous experience from BG1 to BG2 (with a special video sequence after finishing BG1, and you'll automatically keep your main character of course). It connects BG1 and BG2 seamlessly.
Tutu however is closer to the original BG1. With BGT, everything is BG2 based (no compromises), so you'll have all the BG2 spells, item graphics, and other stuff while playing BG1. I like it that way though.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 06 2008 17:35 GMT
#20
BGT? But what if one wants to use TDD?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
September 06 2008 17:51 GMT
#21
Well, all these old non-Weidu based big mods like TDD, DSoTC and so on are probably incompatible, but you can make them work. Lots of reading and fiddling required though.
And of course there might be more or less nasty bugs.
See this thread (and the whole forum) for info about compatibility and stuff: http://www.shsforums.net/index.php?showtopic=19539
All or most Weidu mods are compatible, that's all that matters to me. I've never played the old big mods.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
September 06 2008 18:42 GMT
#22
On September 06 2008 23:50 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
You mean killing + Show Spoiler +
Drizzt
from across the lake? Cheesy. :p

Pfft theres no fight in all those DnD games which isn't readily doable without any form of cheating or abusing.

At least not if you made sure you are fighting them at the correct time in the game with sufficient party XP under your belt and have a proper party setup .
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Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
September 06 2008 19:27 GMT
#23
On September 07 2008 03:42 Nyovne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2008 23:50 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
You mean killing + Show Spoiler +
Drizzt
from across the lake? Cheesy. :p

Pfft theres no fight in all those DnD games which isn't readily doable without any form of cheating or abusing.

At least not if you made sure you are fighting them at the correct time in the game with sufficient party XP under your belt and have a proper party setup .


In that particular fight, xp and party setup don't matter too much. Invisibility/hide hit and runs, bg1 summoning abuse, and/or ai abuse are about your only options.
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