EPTfuck terran - Page 3
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
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SaveYourSavior
United States1071 Posts
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betaben
681 Posts
On August 29 2008 13:15 Luddite wrote: I can't believe how rigged tvz is. Everytime he makes a mistake, I get s small advantage. But if I make any mistakes, BOOM, gg. It's like, oh, 12 speedlings in his base? Well, if I dance them around very well I can pick off a few scvs, great. Of course I can't directly attack his scvs, because his giant robot workers will completely dominate my fragile little dogs. But if he gets a small force of M and M in my base, all my workers go pop pop pop done. I'm like, oh shit, better send all my zerglings to stop them. Double the supply, should be enough, right? Except that if I don't time the flank perfectly, all my poor zerglings die before doing ANY DAMAGE AT ALL. GRRRRR this is frustrating. So tired of losing games where I build up a huge early game advantage, only to lose it all to some stupid micro blunder. I don't get it - "I Make It's scvs completely - But oh, Except At GRRRRR only." isn't an internet meme..? | ||
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Tropics
United Kingdom1132 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
Let me tell you the only reason it's worth being the Zerg in TvZ.... You can Infest their command centre. That gives me a hard dick just thinking about it. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
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New Zealand6138 Posts
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Insane Lane
United States397 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17727 Posts
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On August 29 2008 16:06 H_ wrote: It's true, TvZ is horribly imbalanced and nobody should be playing it because it is impossible for the Zerg to win No, silly. It just means that most maps will have stats showing T>Z, and that the Zerg has to put in more effort into his play than the Terran. The imbalance is small enough so that it doesn't mean that no Zerg will ever have a chance, but it is still there and noticeable when you look at map stats (the chance for Zerg to win is like 40-45%, as opposed to 50% which SHOULD be the case). The result are map stats of like 20-10 or 20-15 in favor of T. Which is nearly the case with every modern map, except Blue Storm. You want hard proof? See TLPD: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hot-maps On every map except Blue Storm (Zerg leads, yay) and Return of the King (tied, 2-2), Terran leads the statistics of TvZ. And on former maps it was exactly like that, too. Python is considered very balanced, right? TvZ 45-31 (59.2%) | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
T >>>> Z | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
Last week, I decided to try switching to Terran since it was the hardest race to play IMO, and possibly a lot more fun. Now I see this? Terran imba? Just let your opponent make a mistake then its gg no re gay faggot easy-to-play race? Just like ilikestarcraft said, people complain about anything -_- | ||
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o3.power91
Bahrain5288 Posts
On August 29 2008 16:55 0xDEADBEEF wrote: No, silly. It just means that most maps will have stats showing T>Z, and that the Zerg has to put in more effort into his play than the Terran. The imbalance is small enough so that it doesn't mean that no Zerg will ever have a chance, but it is still there and noticeable when you look at map stats (the chance for Zerg to win is like 40-45%, as opposed to 50% which SHOULD be the case). The result are map stats of like 20-10 or 20-15 in favor of T. Which is nearly the case with every modern map, except Blue Storm. You want hard proof? See TLPD: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/hot-maps On every map except Blue Storm (Zerg leads, yay) and Return of the King (tied, 2-2), Terran leads the statistics of TvZ. And on former maps it was exactly like that, too. Python is considered very balanced, right? TvZ 45-31 (59.2%) Before complaining about map stats, look at the game list dude... Several of these maps are imbalanced, I agree. But take a map like Athena for example. Athena TvZ 9-3 (75%) Imba yes? Game list: + Show Spoiler + Truly a map full of upsets | ||
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iori_LT
Lithuania675 Posts
In other words if im not mistaken what OP tried to say is that early game in ZvT is ridiculously hard  | ||
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suxN
Finland1167 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1187 Posts
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0xDEADBEEF
Germany1235 Posts
On August 29 2008 17:37 o3.power91 wrote: Before complaining about map stats, look at the game list dude... Several of these maps are imbalanced, I agree. But take a map like Athena for example. Athena TvZ 9-3 (75%) Imba yes? Game list: + Show Spoiler + Truly a map full of upsets Well yes it may happen that on a particular map there were only "rapes", i.e. players winning who were expected to win anyway. But a) I can't be assed to check the details of each map, and b) the fact that the overwhelming majority of all maps since ~2006 show T>Z stats means that it can't be just better players raping lesser skilled players every time. It simply means Terran is favored. Of course statistics are always some kind of shaky, but it's the best and only thing you can rely on when discussing imbalance. | ||
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minus_human
4784 Posts
On August 29 2008 14:02 nemY wrote: switch to protoss don't listen to nitrogen he's a douche bag rofl! seriously, I find TvZ balanced, even at lower levels | ||
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