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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
August 25 2008 07:08 GMT
#1
I think a lot of people have seen The Departed and have mixed feelings/thoughts about it. I didn't want to create a thread since I think this should be blog material, but if anyone thinks this warrants a thread then go ahead, especially if you can explain it better than me (which should be very possible).

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The Departed is a remake of a movie called Mou Gaan Dou (or Wu Jian Dao in Mandarin Chinese). IMDB has it right here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338564/

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I think Scorsese's "remix" of the movie left out a lot of the elements that made Mou Gaan Dou such a great movie.

The biggest complaint I get all the time is "everyone dies in the end". Actually if you understood the character Matt Damon was playing it would have been pretty obvious.

I watched both movies and I have to say that the original is better. It was very artistic, captured the essence of the city Hong Kong, with it's tall buildings of glass and steel, and the local people and life.
This is how I see it:
Matt Damon (forgot character name) didn't really have much of a choice when he was chosen to be a spy for the gangsters. After being a cop, he realizes he really wants to be a cop. This is why he kills Jack Nicholson and then the other mafia undercover - he wants to be a real cop and forget his past.
On the other hand Dicaprio *should* have shown signs that he is starting to become a real gangster, using excessive force and such, as seen in Mou Gaan Dou. This creates a role reversal, among many other things like the conflict between the two undercover people, the relationship between them and the psychologist etc.

Another thing is that Scorsese's award more or less was a "lifetime of achievement" award, rather than an award for "The Departed", seeing as how he narrowly missed so many oscars before.

Anyway I think the original is better with quite a lot of famous chinese actors. I think most asian people have seen the original already and were all a little outraged when nearly every single scene in The Departed was an exact copy of Mou Gaan Dou: death of police officer falling off the roof, Matt Damon with the envelope, the elevator deaths etc etc.

Open to discussion and welcome to add any additional info.

Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-25 07:19:41
August 25 2008 07:16 GMT
#2
American directors should just stop trying to remake Asian movies.

Look at what they did to My Sassy Girl
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
August 25 2008 07:25 GMT
#3
I got the same feeling with The Ring vs Ringu.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 25 2008 07:30 GMT
#4
Omg I saw all 3 infernal affairs movies. They were so PRO. Definitely a recommended watch, the original movie that is.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
August 25 2008 07:36 GMT
#5
chinese the eye vs american. :'[
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
August 25 2008 07:45 GMT
#6
LOL WHAT THE FUCK MY SASSY GIRL HAHAHAHAHA omfg

LEFT FOOT RIGHT FOOT

but yea it doesnt look as good as the korean one
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
August 25 2008 07:57 GMT
#7
I thought they were both good. The Departed felt like a Scorcese film and Infernal Affairs felt like an asian film, more artistic and thoughtful. Wouldn't say I have a preference.

Even though it was a scene by scene re-make almost, it didn't really feel that way to me, again the different styles made the films seem quite seperate, not like Gus Van Sants remake of Psycho.
My. Copy. Is. Here.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
August 25 2008 07:57 GMT
#8
psh jun jihyun >>>>>>>>>> elisha cuthbert
Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-25 08:03:42
August 25 2008 08:01 GMT
#9
On August 25 2008 16:57 EpiK wrote:
psh jun jihyun >>>>>>>>>> elisha cuthbert


Amen to that, and I didn't see elisha say the famous "wanna die" line in the trailer
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