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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-18 00:52:42
August 18 2008 00:52 GMT
#1
Ok, here's just random thoughts and shit about WCG Pacific Regional

A few interesting points:

1) Yosh was just totally a level above everyone else today, he played out of his mind. He went 6-0, and pretty much only game 2 vs G5 was close (that was a very interesting game!). He was on the steam-roll express (aka Xeris's car on the way over.... I take credit for his play today! :p) and could not be stopped.

2) There was definitely tension between G5 and Dino, especially because they were both tied with a 1-1 record, and the winner of that series would claim 2nd place. Dino actually talked some shit while winning game 1, and there was an intense moment... but G5 proceeded to win the next 2 games, luckily nothing escalated or anything.

3) Machine paid $15 for an all day pass, and only played 1 game (PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF).

4) I dunno if all the replays were collected / will be uploaded anywhere, but in Dino's first game vs InControl on Troy, he wrote "EZ" in pylons in his main base...

Final thoughts....

1) Seeing Bryce is cool as always

2) It was great to finally meet InControl, and G5 as well. Despite the fact that he has anger problems online (all you guys admitted as much), he's actually a really cool guy IRL, so I was pleased to see that! Same with Inc, very cool and as I expected.

3) It was also cool to meet Dino and actually get to watch him play. He is pretty good at BW even without hacking, and he's pretty cool in general. Although, I was a bit disappointed when he started to bm G5 in person, imo that was a bit uncalled for.... although according to G5 they have hated each other for years, but still not very sportsmanlike.

4) It sucks that a lot of the games were really one sided... except Yosh vs G5 game 2. Yosh raped every other game basically, Dino's series vs Inc was one sided, as were G5's series... Dino vs G5 game 1 was really easy win for Dino, then game 2 and 3 were really easy wins for G5, Yosh vs Dino were fairly onesided except for a few moments in the early game... In fact every match was 2-0 except Dino vs G5.

Overall, not AS MUCH drama as expected, except for that one instant where G5 and Dino got at it verbally (nothing very intense or interesting ;p).

Oh one last note... it was also cool to meet Fujikura, Daranee, and Dino's other friend (dunno aka or name or anything). They were also very cool guys.

***
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Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 18 2008 00:54 GMT
#2
hehe, yosh is so awesome.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
August 18 2008 00:58 GMT
#3
Thanks for write-up Xeris. Can't wait for repts.

WP Yosh! Dino... sounds like an American MistrzzzzZZZZzz..... sigh.
StarN
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2587 Posts
August 18 2008 00:59 GMT
#4
I dunno if all the replays were collected / will be uploaded anywhere, but in Dino's first game vs InControl on Troy, he wrote "EZ" in pylons in his main base...

lol, how bm, yet funny at the same time.
Retired BW Noob
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 18 2008 01:03 GMT
#5
This was definitely a huge event for USA.

I really wanted Dino to win just because of how much people underestimate him, and think he is trash. But his performance today actually shined I think, even though he took third place. Taking out the former WCG Champion as well as taking a game from G5 says a lot more about him than a "cheating noob" as most people like to define him. Especially with the players who showed up today, I think that this regional was at least five times harder than any other. If Dino made it into Atlantic, Southern, or North, he probably would have made it fairly easy.

However, I like G5 too. I don't really know him personally or in the Brood War scene but when I used to play with ArtLu/Machine for a good week in time, he was always mannered to me. G5 always had a unique style, and I remember him being the first Protoss that I downloaded replays from when I started Starcraft. He was a moderator at gosugamers.net, or something like that, and I'd just have a field day collecting replays of him.

Anyways, great blog A++.
I love reports and infos on events.

I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 18 2008 01:13 GMT
#6
I just think the bm'ing in person kinda ruined the performance, otherwise it was not bad... the games in general were fairly one sided though (as I said), except for like 1.
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
August 18 2008 01:14 GMT
#7
lol writting ez in pylons, pretty funny. sad he couldnt get top two though
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Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
August 18 2008 01:14 GMT
#8
pics?
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 18 2008 01:17 GMT
#9
actually, there are NO pictures... nobody brought a camera. Just one the WCG guy took of Yosh / G5 after it was over.

sorry T_T i would have brought a camera... but I don't own one.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 18 2008 01:22 GMT
#10
On August 18 2008 10:03 SCC-Faust wrote:
Taking out the former WCG Champion as well as taking a game from G5 says a lot more about him than a "cheating noob" as most people like to define him.


Actually, I think cheating people out of money and just cheating in general speaks louder to most people. I think you have way too much respect for BW skill if an above-average performance at a WCG USA regional is enough to wipe out significant immoral acts. But it's your right to judge people however you like, of course; I'm merely stating that I believe you're in the minority.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 18 2008 01:31 GMT
#11
It's not right that he cheated I don't think anyone is questioning that. I just think people were suprised/happy to see him actually show up to the event after being pretty much hated by a lot of the USA community and do fairly decent.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 18 2008 01:34 GMT
#12
It's not that someone can do well without hacking. It's that they hacked.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
August 18 2008 01:39 GMT
#13
On August 18 2008 10:34 Divinek wrote:
It's not that someone can do well without hacking. It's that they hacked.


Yes, I agree. Faust I really disagree with you supporting Dino. He pretty much stole money from other people and whether he's good without hacks is irrelevant.

Thanks for the report Xeris.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17920 Posts
August 18 2008 01:55 GMT
#14
Sounded like fun
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
August 18 2008 01:56 GMT
#15
Ah yeah I forgot, thanks for the reports Xeris!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
August 18 2008 01:59 GMT
#16
Thanks, now all i have to wait for are the reps from yosh. I honestly can't wait. It's also nice to see an oldie like him doing so well still as he was one of the terrans who caught my eye back then with his unique tvz mech style. Great job yosh I hope u do well!
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RoC)Ninjah
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States238 Posts
August 18 2008 02:41 GMT
#17
I was really suprised that A dino showed up B dino won a game C there was internet drama that actually carried over. That's about it, everything else was expected, like yosh steam rolling ^_^. But I think you give too much credit to dino, it shows some balls to actually show up at a lan where people really hate you, but seriously, this doesn't justify hacking in money events.

Anyway great writeup, sounds like you guys had a lot of fun, and congrats g5 and yosh
Much will win a title before his hair turns grey.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
August 18 2008 02:50 GMT
#18
I'm let down by the lack of people calling Dino a faggot to his face.
Dino, if we ever meet, I'm going to call you a faggot, because you are one.

Other than that, nice report! Congrats Yosh / G5.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 18 2008 03:50 GMT
#19
Inspired by this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=77125

Funny Story (courtesy of G5)...

Some guy was apparently playing fastest (after we had come back from lunch to play some CS), and I guess he started debating with G5 about how low money maps have no skill involved, and the real good players play on fastest, bgh, etc. And I guess he defended his position by calling progamers newbs or something like that.

Funny black guy (he was black! ZOMG!)... ;p
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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 18 2008 04:15 GMT
#20
On August 18 2008 11:50 Chill wrote:
I'm let down by the lack of people calling Dino a faggot to his face.
Dino, if we ever meet, I'm going to call you a faggot, because you are one.

Other than that, nice report! Congrats Yosh / G5.

Ya, no kidding. If the guy hacked in a money competition then he should have been ridiculed by the community. People need to man up and let the hackers know they are faggots.
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 18 2008 04:39 GMT
#21
On August 18 2008 10:22 NonY[rC] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2008 10:03 SCC-Faust wrote:
Taking out the former WCG Champion as well as taking a game from G5 says a lot more about him than a "cheating noob" as most people like to define him.


Actually, I think cheating people out of money and just cheating in general speaks louder to most people. I think you have way too much respect for BW skill if an above-average performance at a WCG USA regional is enough to wipe out significant immoral acts. But it's your right to judge people however you like, of course; I'm merely stating that I believe you're in the minority.


I mean I know Dino has hacked, just as everyone else.

And if he did hack during the WCG online-stage I don't agree that he should have gone. But I mean, I don't think anyone can say Dino hacked 100% - unlike people know that Lastshadow cheated, which was pretty evident apparently. Lastshadow and Spades didn't bother showing up, even though they stole their spots. What is even worse is Spades asked for like, 200 dollars to go.

I'm not saying that he didn't hack during WCG, nor am I saying it was less than likely, but I think it is possible that he did play the online qualifiers without hacks. Either way, I think he is capable of definitely winning an online qualifier without hacks.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 18 2008 04:40 GMT
#22
Nony is talking about the fact that he hacked in the eStro Superstar tournament, got 3rd place, and won $150 ... therefore cheating people like Xiaozi or JF out of money they coulda potentially won.
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
August 18 2008 05:14 GMT
#23
I hear the WC3 gosus owned the SC noobs at Counter-Strike
blabberrrrr
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 18 2008 05:24 GMT
#24
lol ya... we were fucking terrible.

actually, Yosh is REALLY good at CS too. I was by far the worst, Machine / Inc were pretty OK, I think. but I was real terrible T_T
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
August 18 2008 08:46 GMT
#25
chill no need to get confrontational in person unless your ready for it to escalate. your opinion is well stated online and if you really just want to be ballsy in person and say it, you should be ready for something else besides a non physical altercation
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
Skew
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1019 Posts
August 18 2008 13:38 GMT
#26
Chill may hate you Dave, but you can still join my Diablo 3 clan. That is, if you run multiple bots to collect items for me.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-18 15:16:53
August 18 2008 15:16 GMT
#27
On August 18 2008 13:39 SCC-Faust wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2008 10:22 NonY[rC] wrote:
On August 18 2008 10:03 SCC-Faust wrote:
Taking out the former WCG Champion as well as taking a game from G5 says a lot more about him than a "cheating noob" as most people like to define him.


Actually, I think cheating people out of money and just cheating in general speaks louder to most people. I think you have way too much respect for BW skill if an above-average performance at a WCG USA regional is enough to wipe out significant immoral acts. But it's your right to judge people however you like, of course; I'm merely stating that I believe you're in the minority.

But I mean, I don't think anyone can say Dino hacked 100%

Dino hacked 100%.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
August 18 2008 15:17 GMT
#28
On August 18 2008 17:46 likeaboss wrote:
chill no need to get confrontational in person unless your ready for it to escalate. your opinion is well stated online and if you really just want to be ballsy in person and say it, you should be ready for something else besides a non physical altercation


LOL righteo!
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tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
August 18 2008 15:47 GMT
#29
Dino to carry the olympic torch in 2012!
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Return
Profile Joined June 2005
Ivory Coast856 Posts
August 18 2008 21:15 GMT
#30
On August 19 2008 00:16 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2008 13:39 SCC-Faust wrote:
On August 18 2008 10:22 NonY[rC] wrote:
On August 18 2008 10:03 SCC-Faust wrote:
Taking out the former WCG Champion as well as taking a game from G5 says a lot more about him than a "cheating noob" as most people like to define him.


Actually, I think cheating people out of money and just cheating in general speaks louder to most people. I think you have way too much respect for BW skill if an above-average performance at a WCG USA regional is enough to wipe out significant immoral acts. But it's your right to judge people however you like, of course; I'm merely stating that I believe you're in the minority.

But I mean, I don't think anyone can say Dino hacked 100%

Dino hacked 100%.



you mean in the games he fpvodded?
Diiiscoo-oh, thats where the happy people go!
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 18 2008 23:41 GMT
#31
he hacked, but didn't hack in WCG... doesn't mean he doesnt deserve the punishment hes receiving (banned from WGT / BWCL, etc) just like every other hacker... but also doesn't mean that he's not a good player in his own right.

anyways , WCG was cool!
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
August 19 2008 01:20 GMT
#32
"something else besides a non physical altercation"
most convoluted way of saying 'fight' ever
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iakNab
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
131 Posts
August 19 2008 01:42 GMT
#33
On August 19 2008 00:47 tonight wrote:
Dino to carry the olympic torch in 2012!


signed.
aja ja
Quanticfograw
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States2053 Posts
August 19 2008 01:50 GMT
#34
lol so true, i was really hammered while typing it and trying to make it sound not insanely dickheadish
https://twitter.com/quanticfograw
NerO
Profile Joined February 2003
United States2071 Posts
August 19 2008 02:01 GMT
#35
well im glad to see the meathead got steamrolled and G5 is a faggot so im glad dino talked shit. meh. GJ Yosh <3
PoP-sicle
Profile Joined May 2007
Canada418 Posts
August 19 2008 03:53 GMT
#36
can you upload replays plz??
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
August 19 2008 04:52 GMT
#37
i dunno where they are, I'll ask yosh later
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Jaskwith
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States197 Posts
August 19 2008 06:18 GMT
#38
On August 19 2008 10:42 iakNab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2008 00:47 tonight wrote:
Dino to carry the olympic torch in 2012!


signed.


sMi.jaSK
mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
August 22 2008 12:38 GMT
#39
i do recall dino saying he still hacks (a month ago).. though he said he doesn maphack and the reason he does so was because of training and it aids him identify which bits he needs to work more.. though really, no excuse imo and i dont know y a player at his level needs 2 resort to one for improvement..
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