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It keeps me alive and allows me to think and all that, but it doesn't do a very good job of sleeping.
I've woken up like three times in the past hour, from nightmares or sleep paralysis and hallucinations. I thought it was maybe around 6:00AM, but when I looked at the clock it was 4:00, meaning I had been asleep for about 1 hour.
Incredible dismayed and incoherent I decided to do what I always do no matter the circumstances; come to TL.
Does anyone else have any problems with this? The internet information on sleep paralysis and hypnogogia is sparse, and even the research information I can find from my school is virtually non-existent. The book titled "Hypnogogia" is out of print and sells for several hundred dollars, and none of the doctors I've talked to really know much about it, other than the name.
I've found a couple of studies and the Wikipedia article, and that's about it. I've also been prescribed a couple of drugs that don't seem to do anything.
Gay
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run, exercise, work out, play sports
:3
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A bottle of vodka will put you to sleep in that case.
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On July 28 2008 18:05 paper wrote:
run, exercise, work out, play sports
:3
I said my brain. My body is just fine. You may remember me as the guy who can bench press 225 pounds.
Edit: Oh I guess you may be referring to what I wrote in the weight loss thread. But yeah again, I do that stuff. I also go to school, which I guess is the analogue for your brain.
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Any high force blunt impact to the back of the head works for me.
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I was pretty sure I'd get pointless responses like these. It's sad when "drink a bottle of Vodka" is the best advice available.
Just shows you that I meant what I wrote as far as lack of options and treatment.
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On July 28 2008 18:16 Ancestral wrote:I said my brain. My body is just fine. You may remember me as the guy who can bench press 225 pounds. Edit: Oh I guess you may be referring to what I wrote in the weight loss thread. But yeah again, I do that stuff. I also go to school, which I guess is the analogue for your brain.
er, well, i was saying if you completely drain all your energy, you'll just completely knock out and not have these mental effects? =T
i don't know :d
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Well you are pretty right there, I do sleep well after I run long races and things. However, it would suck to have to do that every day of my life just to sleep. And also, if there's some time that I do want to stay up, I can't because I'm so tired.
I guess the point is everyone has sleep problems of some sort in industrialized countries, so I guess I should just put my hope in winning the lottery so I can pay expensive medical fees for examinations or just not worry about anything because I'm rich. That's always the answer, though.
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i wake up from 12am to 2am then 4am and etc.... sometimes every 10minutes.
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I have the same problem. When it's REALLY bad it looks like this
11:00pm - get into bed
11:00 - 11:45pm - turn over to face the other direction in the hopes I will sleep faster on a certain side
12:30am - turn my pillow over because it's getting too hot on the side
1:00am - BLESSED RELEASE!
2:00am - wake up.
2:30am - experience my overactive imagination leaping from thought to thought. Stay awake for the next 3 hours, do not pass go.
5:45am - sleep.
8:30am - wake up feeling like COMPLETE SHIT!
8:32am - get out of bed after realising I'm not going to get any more sleep today.
1:30pm - become extremely tired.
Edit: This really fucked me off in university.
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Yeah I have a problem that is similar in scope, just the times are different.
And it's like, the hours of sleep I'll get per day on a given week is something along the lines of
14, 14, 0, 21, 0, 7, 16
I think I sleep way to much over all, but when I try to sleep at night I have ridiculous hallucinations, dreams, and sleep paralysis. Despite the fact that I have a beard currently and am pretty manly, they're actually pretty horrifying. And they're not even about anything scary, it's always random stuff like children, logs, small dogs, or swirling lights and sounds.
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I have the same problem. And my sleep pattern is very similiar.. possibly related? Sometimes I find myself sleeping for 16+ hours if I let myself stay in bed, you know how you get that "I can probably eke another few hours of sleep out of this tiredness" feeling. Waking up at 8pm feels terrible. I'm told it's mostly because my sleeping pattern is erratic, but it's not like there's much I can do about it except taking sleeping pills, and I'm not sure those even work. The last time I tried them was about 5-6 years ago.
As for my dreams, they've gotten so weird I started keeping a log of them. Most of them make 0 sense.
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Go uberman, rumor has it it can cure these types of problems.
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Switzerland11984 Posts
I searched all my trackers for hypnogogia, but couldn't find anything, sorry. Then again, when I have a physical problem, I usually go to a doctor and not to the internet, you might want to try that. :p
I'm so used to being physically exhausted when I come home in the evening that I often have problems falling asleep if I haven't been to training that day. I know it sucks to be dependant on excercise to fall asleep, but it's better than never sleeping well.
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Germany2896 Posts
Brains are overrated. Except as zombie-food. 
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On July 28 2008 18:27 Ancestral wrote:
Well you are pretty right there, I do sleep well after I run long races and things. However, it would suck to have to do that every day of my life just to sleep. And also, if there's some time that I do want to stay up, I can't because I'm so tired.
Well, this is why you won't find a better solution. You already denied the best solution possible. Sports.
Eating habits have a strong influence as well. Don't eat 5-6 hours before sleep. Don't eat much for dinner. Eat very good and a lot for breakfast.
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i get hungry so i eat, i guess thats why i never sleep.
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When you try to go to sleep just focus on trying to clear your mind of all thoughts. Works for me. There's a certain mental state I have to be in to sleep or else I'll just lie there all night.
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My brain is pretty bad at letting me sleep, too. I was initially going to go to bed around 3 P.M. since I had been up since the night before, when my friend called and suggested hanging out. So we end up hanging out for like 12 hours, which involves lots of Halo 3 and climbing around and shit outside being idiots, and here I am, 4 A.M., 13 hours after my original bed-time, and no desire to sleep.
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do you take drugs or something? like smoke weed regularly?
it's hard to say if you go to school (so don't have a fucked up rythm), work out etc. what else it could be... visit a doctor if you really can't come up with anything.
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Try some relaxation exercises/breathing exercises, maybe develop some type of pre bedtime stretch routine (yoga), or something that worked for me is try reading before you go to bed. Otherwise, I would always recommend seeing a doctor, but don't see a general practitioner. Try and possibly find a psychiatrist or someone who might have a little more knowledge of the disorder. I'm sure you already know this, but they will most likely recommend drugs.
my best advice.
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United States22883 Posts
Go see a doctor. And not Dr. Liquid.
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Don't eat or drink a lot before going to sleep. Be sure the air is fresh in your room.
Also, when something exciting happens during day, that might make you dream strange dreams.
Happened to me before, some alcohol really helps, really. Or hot milk, if you're that "dry" type?
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Sydney2287 Posts
There's a section in Steven Laberge's 'Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming' where he gives some advice on how to turn sleep paralysis into a lucid experience. I'm sure you could acquire this book somewhere (It's available, I know that) and give that a try. I actually recommend it to anyone interested in lucid dreaming (Another topic entirely~, not meaning to hijack here).
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I can't sleep tonight either, despite several vigorous sessions of masturbation.
Now that the sun is coming up, I've decided to pull an all-night-and-dayer. We'll see how this goes. . .
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hahahai tried that for a bit
at first i was creeped out like any other person would be - its unnatural and u tend to not associate yourself with unnaturals things, however when it was gone i realized that it was pretty cool
so in actuality i rather enjoyed the crepy dark phantom guy and the tingling sensation that occured in my head even the most random dreams that went along with that
like once i slept while listening to my mp3 player with like.. some random metal bands necro and shadows fall or w/e some random semi-mainstream thing
and like it was at school during lunch or something so liek i dreamt all my friends were like gathered in a cult then randomly growling death metal omg it was so awesome then i woke up and i never got sleep paralysis again it was the saddest day of my life 
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Ah.. well if youre trying to get some sleep until 3 am. Well thats some fucked up sleeping habits.
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Yeah, happened to me just last night.
Sorry man,, the only info I have regarding it is from experience.
Note: the prescription drugs don't HELP.
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By the way, how could I ever forget THAT.... boy, oh boy....
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just get really tired, it helps. Modify your sleep habits. Sleeping that late isnt helping. Try sleeping 6-8 hours a day
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Sex
or
Cigarette
or
Glass of Wine
or
Some kind of conditional sport
Try any (imo 2nd is the easiest to get or try, but possibly most risky)
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aren't hallucinations while sleeping referred to as dreams? ㅡ ㅜ;;
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I have problems sleeping, especially when I'm stressed. I've gone to sleep at 4AM, 3:30AM, and 4:30AM for the past three days -_-
Thank god I don't have school right now lol
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On July 28 2008 19:30 ForAdun wrote:Show nested quote +On July 28 2008 18:27 Ancestral wrote:
Well you are pretty right there, I do sleep well after I run long races and things. However, it would suck to have to do that every day of my life just to sleep. And also, if there's some time that I do want to stay up, I can't because I'm so tired. Well, this is why you won't find a better solution. You already denied the best solution possible. Sports. Eating habits have a strong influence as well. Don't eat 5-6 hours before sleep. Don't eat much for dinner. Eat very good and a lot for breakfast.
I have to run 13 or more miles for it to make me tired enough to sleep. Otherwise I just stay energetic. Just playing sports has never made me tired, still just more energetic. So they actually are a good way to wake up at least. I can't run 13 miles everyday just because of my feet and knees, and if I got to the point where I could, well, it probably wouldn't make me tired anymore.
On July 28 2008 18:46 thedeadhaji wrote:I become sleepy/tired after like 10 hours of beign awake
Yeah I usually do too, though if I stay busy, I sometimes stay up for 30 or so and then have trouble getting to sleep. But if I'm up for 8 or 10 I get tired and can usually go to sleep, although that leaves me at an inopportune place.
On July 28 2008 23:57 BaDayOri wrote:
aren't hallucinations while sleeping referred to as dreams? ㅡ ㅜ;;
My body is asleep, but not my brain. Hence sleep paralysis. I can open my eyes and look at things, though I usually see people or demons or vicious infants and hear loud buzzing sounds or feel vibrations and see lights. Can't move though, and can't "wake up" even if I try. The reverse of sleep walking really - where your body moves but you're not conscious.
On July 28 2008 21:54 Bockit wrote:
There's a section in Steven Laberge's 'Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming' where he gives some advice on how to turn sleep paralysis into a lucid experience. I'm sure you could acquire this book somewhere (It's available, I know that) and give that a try. I actually recommend it to anyone interested in lucid dreaming (Another topic entirely~, not meaning to hijack here).
Definitely sounds interesting, I'll have to check it out.
On July 28 2008 20:10 Raithed wrote:
i get hungry so i eat, i guess thats why i never sleep.
Yeah me too, when I should be sleeping I rummage through the cupbords instead of trying to sleep.
And to the people saying I should see a doctor, I have, but it was a while ago. And you're right, so I will do that. But it's good to hear the fun and interesting responses from this wonderful community, and a lot of people have sleep problems in industrial countries so I like hearing about their differing but similarly gay problems.
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Oh and Orome, I guess it's actually spelled "hypnagogia" not "hypnogogia." So maybe that's why you couldn't find anything? But it is an uncommon subject so I guess it might not be there anyway.
And Ghardo, I smoke weed or drink once or twice a year, so I don't think that's it.
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