EPTChanged my life in less than a year - Page 7
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
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Chromyne
Canada561 Posts
On July 26 2008 03:08 PsycHOTemplar wrote: Really? Because I'm pretty sure he made it to talk down to people, since he even admits that he has a history of enjoying doing that. If he wanted to share his experience, he would have kept the topic to "I let religion into my life, now it's better," rather than what he did which was "all you non-Christians will never know love and happiness as I do now." That's elitism, not compassion (which was the same reason he used to be a racist). You know, you could be right, so I'm not going to argue the point. It's clear that he could have written his post with a little more tact. | ||
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epidion
United States316 Posts
In short: He made a post that was insulting to the community, and the community responded. Don't think you're some man of reason teaching us to shed our hateful words. If I said "say nice things even if you don't believe them" than I misspoke. If that's the case, my apologies. For me, it sometimes helps to look at things from a different perspective. That's all I was offering. Yes, he could have worded his post better; it's true. Some parts could be offensive, but if that isn't what he meant than why construe it that way? I guess he just didn't communicate his ideas properly, because I personally doubt he was trying to offend anyone. For the record PsychoTemplar - I like your posts in general and I think you make a good point in these. I don't mean to call you out on that one small quote, I just wanted to clarify what I had written. I was just offering the idea that maybe the blog was made because he wanted to "share" something rather than "recruit followers." But, I could be wrong. I think the reason the OP made this BLOG (keyword = blog not thread) is because he thinks he has something special and wants to share it. A few people have already said, if you had/know something you think is cool, wouldn't you want to tell people about it? All this stuff about how he said it and everything, though important and detracted from his post, is something else and digresses from the point. It's just him sharing something he has experienced. I agree with you completely. Back to the restaurant metaphor - maybe he actually did say "I found this new restaurant and all the ones you guys go to right now kinda suck. You should maybe check this one out." Again, it could have been said better but now it's been misconstrued as purposely offensive. But hey, I don't have all the answers. Just putting in my perspective. Enjoying the comments to this blog. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
 I subscribe to the belief that unless you're a small child or mentally handicapped, you know exactly what you're communicating, and to me it's very obvious in the OP post. But of course, if you don't subscribe to that same belief, my argument is meaningless and that's okay. I'm sorry to have asserted that was a given, and it's evidently an entirely different argument I'm sure neither of us are interested in getting into over an internet forum ^^ | ||
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
as for your take on the whole tithing being old testament style, i'm pretty sure it carries over into the new testament as well. i understand that there are a lot of different teachings from old to new testament, however christians still believe in creationism and all the other random crap that is splattered around, and tithing falls in with the shit that transcends new and old. i'm not making a big deal on tithing, i don't give a fuck where people give their money, i'm just making a point that tithing is part of the church. I'd have to agree with psychotemplar when thinking that he wrote this post to talk down to all that don't believe in his new found faith just as he used to talk down to muslims/blacks, now he has just widened the scope. He may not ssay or think that's what he is doing, but that's what his style of writing gives off. So like I said before, maybe he should ask god to work on his grammar and how he communicates with people through writing before he starts "sharing". This would have been the proper sharing blog... On July 25 2008 10:14 TechniQ.UK wrote: So about 9 months ago my *new* life began. Before *I chose to become a* Christian *I felt as though I was playing Starcraft to distract myself from the fact that* I was pretty depressed about relationships, I hated school, and my best friends lived in the next town so I didn't get to see them very often. I was also a crazed racist as in lets get the BNP (British national party) in power and start killing the Muslims and blacks in Britain if they don't all leave. I also had a short fuse. *I feel as though* God changed my character even before I started reading a bible, when I had accepted Jesus that very same day I changed, my mind, my soul my heart. *My* lust after porn and women, *my* short temper, *my* anger, *my* depression and *my* racism. *I believe* God freed me*, even* before I had read a single full page of the bible. If I *had* read the bible *before feeling God in my life*, I could see the argument that I was just following a rule book, but it wasn't *like that*, it was me *trying to be more like Christ*. *Obviously not everything has* changed overnight. * I believe it takes a life time of striving to be more like Christ, even though I know I'll never be perfect.* So that was all fine and great so after a while I had to deal with school and normal day life even though my character changed life went on. One day I saw this guy in my class who always gets picked on and ridiculed, he was getting picked on by 2-3 neds (unemployed, uneducated folk who wear tracksuits and cause trouble usually) but I was moved by this compassion I'd never felt before to go and help him. I was the one who usually picked on this guy on a daily basis because his dad was a pastor and he was an easy target. Thats how much I've changed in a few months. I joined a church where I met *many nice and welcoming people* who acted like they were all family. (the rest of this paragraph was talking down to everyone who wasn't Christian) I've pretty much now become a part of that family, I play guitar for the youth band, I go out with them all the time, I even asked out a girl there (been my girlfriend for a month tomorrow) and I've started going out a lot more with friends from the next town who I never get to see. My life has literally turned from *bad* (come on christian boy SHIT is a bad word!) to good through what I can see are mostly random events which come together to have a great outcome like it was planned by God. If it ended here I would have said congrats enjoy your religion have a nice day, but then it goes on to the rest of it which should be completely cut out. Anytime christians feel compelled to say something, basically in comes the christian rhetoric bs about how christians get a bad wrap blah blah blah, all that matters is god jesus etc etc. So if you can honestly tell me you don't think he was trying to convert some folks and is just sharing, than I can "honestly" tell you that you are an "intelligent" person. I mean just read the last 6 paragraphs! It's basically like he put a pulpit in front of his computer and started going to town. | ||
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TechniQ.UK
United Kingdom391 Posts
So keep your rambling going on but no one asked you to post or to agree with my views, it was a choice and as usual the great urge that people get when a large bandwagon is passing by to just jump on it and ride it for all it's worth took over. All the people who said I'm a fool and I'm retarded I challenge to write their own blogs with their views on the subject of God and the conclusions they have. This is a blog keep in mind, MY THOUGHTS therefore I did have the right to post this. Yes you did have right to reply but was it necessary to become an aggressive voice against me? If you did use the prayer in this blog and I did challenge you to change your views on the subject of God and your life was changed through it would it not have been worth it a blog post of all things? You really can't win being a Christian you try to share your views and you get branded as force feeding people bullshit, you sit quietly and stay within your communities and you get labeled as self-righteous and get accused of snobbery. | ||
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suresh0t
United States295 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=65832 so yeah have fun convincing people you aren't on a self righteous path... | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
Having a conviction in ones self, and their own ability to make it is so much more gratifying than needing something to "make" you better, do it on your own it means more. that being said, kudos on "improving" your life. | ||
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TechniQ.UK
United Kingdom391 Posts
"Oh it's the same douchebag..." nice intellectual contribution... | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
On July 26 2008 05:24 suresh0t wrote: ha oh snap you are the same kid who wrote the bs that made me so pissed I wrote my own blog... http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=65832 so yeah have fun convincing people you aren't on a self righteous path... I had respect for your opinions until I read in your blog that you wanted to be like Justin Timberlake. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I just want you to know some people are very happy, and are also athiests. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
Realitically anything majorly informative was said multiple times over by other people in this blog, each of whom for the most part said what id want to, but you happened to mention "the prayer" again from your main post, and answered on it and its illegitimacy. Man, I'm happy you found something to improve your life, but you come off like a dick with how your preaching it, and looking down on us, you even said in your OP how we aren't able to be as compassionate towards people compared to christians, and yet I go out of my way to open doors for people, say my pleases and thank you's, donate to charity, volunteer, etc... Yet, most christians ive met dont do these things, so seriously fuck off | ||
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Rev0lution
United States1805 Posts
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CommanderFluffy
Taiwan1059 Posts
I hope someday you'll realize the architect of your revitalization as a new, better human being was not god; because a supportive community is one of man's creations. | ||
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TechniQ.UK
United Kingdom391 Posts
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
Do we really have to dissect your post to tell you why it's insulting? Your fleeting happiness, your problems, your sadness your loneliness. Who said we have fleeting happiness, problems, sadness, and loneliness? First of all, this is one of the worst in your post. You're basically saying that all 'non Christians' have 'unreal mirages of happiness'. Secondly are you saying that if you become Christian you no longer have problems? Do you no longer have sadness and loneliness 'just' because you became a Christian? Your sadness and loneliness was not solved by God, it was solved by you breaking out of your shell and joining a community with similar interests (religion). So although you think it's God's will or whatever, it was your own doing. This is why religion is good for some people, because it allows you to do things you wouldn't have normally done. The choices you make have consequences, and whether they are good are bad, you can't say that 'non Christians' specifically have sadness and loneliness. Your major problem is relating your experiences as an athiest to the rest of the world. But you're so narrow-minded there's just no point in getting this through to you - you just won't listen! You are NOT the epitome of all athiests - everyone is different, you are not an example of all athiests and non Christians. Please stop relating your experiences to our lives - this has been said several times and you don't listen. Secondly, Christians have problems too. It is complete idiocracy to say that Christians have no problems - everyone in the world has problems. I can go on and on about what's wrong with this tiny segment of your post but it is futile because, as you said... "I hope someday TechniQ.UK will read the SEVEN PAGES of things people posted and stop re-telling the same points". I'm not trying to force anything down anyones throats or undermine anything but please I feel a great love for the lost of the world right now. Excuse me, but we are not the 'lost of the world'. We aren't lost. Are you really not trying to force stuff down our throats? By saying our lives are miserable, by saying we are 'lost' in the world... please just OPEN YOUR EYES. how different non Christians were to Christians, and it can't be faked, you can see it in their eyes it's real compassion and love and the likeness of Christ in there. How different non Christians were to Christians? WHAT THE FUCK, are you retarded? Wait, actually you are kind of right... Christians like you have basically SHUT OFF THEIR BRAINS and won't listen to anything we say. Basically Christians like you are the scourge of the world? Why? Do you think I'm jumping on the bandwagon now? Well, no, actually, it's because I'm seeing you reply to these posts who are basically just informing you that you are being offensive, and you are just adding on and on to the list of misdeeds you have written here. You are just digging yourself into a deeper hole. I'm not being hypocritical either. I'm saying people like YOU are disgusting. ACCEPT THE MISTAKES YOU MAKE AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS, AMIRITE? Isn't that one of the points of Christianity? Repenting for your sins? So why can't you just say 'Sorry TL.Net, I was wrong in some parts of my post. I'll delete it and please forgive me". We are not 'God', but we are human beings and if you somehow feel that you are ABOVE us, and our FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS do not matter to you, then just get the hell out and go hang out with your 'Christian friends'. Most Christians aren't like you - at least they RESPECT OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, regardless of the differences between them. I'm not even going to try and post more. I am happy for you that you have turned over a new leaf in your life. But stop being so close-minded and apologize, instead of digging yourself into a deeper hole by insulting us more and more. | ||
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msadc
United States152 Posts
If God is all powerful and all good, why can't he squish the devil like an ant, end all of the suffering on Earth, and go ahead and send us to eternal salvation in Heaven. Why is he playing this game with us? I've never heard a real explanation. | ||
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Superiorwolf
United States5509 Posts
... jk iunno but probably a test of who's good or w/e something weird like that. | ||
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