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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 21:50:33
January 29 2008 21:23 GMT
#1
Religion is and will always be our way of coping with things we don't understand

The more science starts to shed light on ideas, religions begin to change their tones. Prime example...Christians who acknowledge evolution. If you are a Christian and believe in evolution, then you can't use the bible as the all knowing book that has all the answers. Once you throw one part out, the rest goes with it. This is what religion doesn't seem to understand, and why there are so many sects of so many different religions.

Just break down Christianity

Non Denominational
Catholic
Baptist
Anglican
Methodist

...so on and so forth

Right here is the reason in not believing. Everyone has their take on the bible. That being said, everyone is supposed to have their own take on it. The book is full of scriptures that can be turned into what you want it to mean. This isn't an uncommon way of writing. Many people believe this is how Nostradamus worked as well. You write something vague and doll it up with words that have multiple meanings and phrases that can be construed in many ways, then years down the road something happens and we assume that what was written was meant for this event in time.

If you are reading the bible and coming to the conclusion that

- The world was created in 7 days
- The Great Flood
- Jonah surviving being eaten by a whale
- Jesus being the Son of God

and all that other stuff in the bible...

You are a wishful thinker and I commend you for having so much faith. I really wish I could have that much faith in something so ridiculous...but unfortunately, I have thoughts...and those can really fuck up the whole faith thing. (Thank you Lewis Black)

For me to believe Christianity is more than just a way to keep people in line, then I would have to believe in the creationism story. I'm sorry, I'm just not that narrow minded. Honestly the book loses all credit in the first chapter and yet people still use it as though it is the ultimate truth. It blows my fucking mind. People can fire back and forth at each other over religion and we will never get anywhere. The only way we get anywhere is acceptance. Everyone has their opinions, and I really don't fucking care if your religion tells you to preach the gospel to all the world...that scripture is out dated. Obviously if we aren't living in the African jungle right now, we know what the fuck Christianity is. We don't need you to tell us your beliefs, we get it. People get mad at Atheists for attacking Christianity, and I'm sorry but you know, it wasn't us who started it.

As for how I deal with it, I enjoy the motto "To each his own" until someone comes and tells me why I am going to hell. When that happens, I have the tendency to tell them why they are a fucking idiot. Seems like a fair trade off. If they are this great Christian then there should be nothing that I can say to convince them they are on the wrong path, so why are they bothered by it so much? Listen I know from the Christian perspective why I'd be going to hell if it existed. I really don't need your list, I understand.

Reasons why I am going to hell
- Lust: I enjoy wanting things, be it sex, money, worldly possessions.
- Gluttony: Chances are everyone wastes food, or money or something so good luck on the heaven thing.
- Greed: I'm a degenerate poker player, enough said.
- Sloth: I'm surely not using all my talents and skills to will of god if he existed.
- Wrath: I've hated people, and I still hate people.
- Envy: I definitely wish I was Justin Timberlake...that kid can dance like nobodies business
- Pride: I'm always proud. I don't let things go to my head, but I'm proud of the things of done in life, and I don't credit god for them

The Seven Deadly Sins, I've covered them all.

Now I want to respond to this...

On January 30 2008 03:44 TechniQ.UK wrote:
What is it in particular that convinces you Christianity is the one true religion?
i.e. What makes it more "correct" than any other religion in the world.


Basically if you look at the main stream religions that exist today, if you believe in a god you can narrow it down to about 4, Muslims worship a god who many christians including myself believe to be a small g (god) a diety that links back to satan why is this allah not the same as the God of the bible? 1. The bible teaches that Yah'shua (Jesus) was THE saviour, he was the messiah the prophet, however the quran contradicts this by saying that Yah'shua is only to come later a 2nd time and isnt as important as mohammed. The quran is like the 3rd or 4th holy book in the world in chronological order of the abrahamic religions, it came after Yah'shua returned to heaven and its saying that all the rules have changed and that in some twisted way that theres a new more important prophet and salvation comes through all this other stuff and doesn't mention faith much, also theres parts where the quran says that allah went down to hell and started torturing souls there for i think it was amusement?? Sorry but going from us being saved and being back in the love of the father and then out of nowhere its like all of this stuff, no im sorry but this isn't our Lord and saviour and its not the God of the bible. There is also a lot of evidence to show that most of islam is based on idolatry of like stones, which the bible also warns against.

Sikhism is kinda like i don't know much about God but its like hes everywhere, created life and is kinda just there, salvation comes through enlightenment, this is basically buddhism, sikhism and other indian/eastern religions in a nut shell, so theres nothing much going on there they get information from so called gurus with like 0 evidence.

Judaism is basically what came before Christianity but has decided not to move on when Christianity came, why? im not sure but there is quite a lot of parts of judaism who do believe in the messiah so there i think on the way to salvation.


Allah is the same fucking God you worship...deal with it. Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, not the son of god. I don't believe in Islam either, but to say the God Muslims worship is a deity smaller than the God you worship is beyond fucking amazingly stupid.

Sikhism believes in one God, and believes he is omnipresent. God is everywhere, not far off from the Christian God who is all knowing eh?

Judaism didn't move on because they don't fucking have to. According to the Bible, THEY ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE. They don't need Jesus, he didn't come to help them.

Those are 4 major religions no doubt, but to say they are the biggest you are wrong. I would imagine you have heard of Buddhism and Hinduism?


On January 30 2008 03:44 TechniQ.UK wrote:
Can you explain the Holy Trinity to me?
I read the Bible, but that thing doesnt make fucking sense at all.


Ok basically The son, the Father and the Holy Spirit are all part of 1 God, they are all linked in some way but they're existing in 3 persons. I can't really go into this much because its so beyond what we understand theres really no way for us to know on what levels are they the same person etc... However Yah'shua made it clear that he and the Father were one. The bible also makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is also a part of this unity.


Not the hardest concept to wrap your head around. Christians may not admit it but the trinity is just 3 deities that form one God. God the son (Jesus), God the father, and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is really the only relative unknown in that equation.



On January 30 2008 03:44 TechniQ.UK wrote:
Can Buddhists and Hindus get into heaven?

Yes if they believe in Yah'shua with their whole heart and confess him before others and follow some important rules in the bible for salvation then theres no reason why not. Unless their religion is worshipping other idols or gods because that is a serious sin and the bible says you cannot be a person with 2 masters (sin or salvation, God or some other idol).


Buddhists and Hindus can't get into Christian heaven because...well THEY ARE BUDDHISTS AND HINDUS!



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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
January 29 2008 21:27 GMT
#2
this was originally going to be a comment on the Christianity blog, but it got out of hand so I posted it here.
Folca
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
2235 Posts
January 29 2008 21:31 GMT
#3
Christian's View of why you go to hell
-You dont believe Christ
-You dont spread his word
Its simple as that
Theres nothing else that judges you from heaven or hell
(yes, obviously i have christian faith, but im slowly diminishing) :-/
Dea : one time when he was playing vs the comps he asked me "how do I make that flying unit that makes the other stuff invisible" and I reply "ur playing terran zomg"
Aepplet
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden2908 Posts
January 29 2008 21:31 GMT
#4
here's one to heresy, cheers!
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
January 29 2008 21:33 GMT
#5
You wish you were Justin Timberlake?
FirstBorn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Romania3955 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 21:43:41
January 29 2008 21:36 GMT
#6
I don;t know i f you realize but when you posted this here you did the same like the man that said to you that you're going to hell.

While he condemned you lack of faith, you condemn the christians faith. Being a christian is a lot like being an atheist. While the first says God exists and has no way to prove it, the second says God does not exist and can't prove it also. So they both can't do anything but to believe. Not that of a big difference.

On a more related note I'm going to hell cuz I wish I were Bisu.Or Bill Gates. I think Bill Gates more.
SonuvBob: Yes, the majority of TL is college-aged, and thus clearly stupid.
Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11284 Posts
January 29 2008 21:43 GMT
#7
There are lots of reasons to critisize religion, christianity, church. But please don't do it in such a superficial way as in this blog, unless you are trying to verify the "pride" thing.
ModeratorNon veritas sed auctoritas facit legem. | Liquipedia: Don't ask me, I'm retired.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
January 29 2008 21:53 GMT
#8
Given that Every. Single. One. of your posts at TeamLiquid is about Christianity, would it not make more sense to find another community to post in?
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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
January 29 2008 21:59 GMT
#9
On January 30 2008 06:31 Folca wrote:
Christian's View of why you go to hell
-You dont believe Christ
-You dont spread his word
Its simple as that
Theres nothing else that judges you from heaven or hell
(yes, obviously i have christian faith, but im slowly diminishing) :-/



So what you are saying is you can sin and not repent and get into heaven? But if you are saved and you live a sin free life, but don't talk about your faith with other people then you go to hell? Sorry but I have to disagree with that one.
Dr.Dragoon
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1241 Posts
January 29 2008 22:03 GMT
#10
NOOOOOOOOOOO. I SO saw this coming once the Christianity Questions blog came up. Another one of those threads that go absolutely nowhere with religion arguments that have been done on this forum way too much.
~o~ I have returned
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
January 29 2008 22:03 GMT
#11
On January 30 2008 06:36 FirstBorn wrote:
While he condemned you lack of faith, you condemn the christians faith. Being a christian is a lot like being an atheist. While the first says God exists and has no way to prove it, the second says God does not exist and can't prove it also. So they both can't do anything but to believe. Not that of a big difference.


Atheism requires no faith at all. If you disagree with that then your definition of "atheism" is incorrect.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
WhatisProtoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Korea (South)2325 Posts
January 29 2008 22:15 GMT
#12
Go somewhere else.

Your biased bull-crap isn't of much use to this forum.
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
January 29 2008 22:16 GMT
#13
On January 30 2008 06:53 Chill wrote:
Given that Every. Single. One. of your posts at TeamLiquid is about Christianity, would it not make more sense to find another community to post in?


Actually my first 2 blogs were about Starcraft, then my next 2 blogs were about an article I was writing...and yes they were about religion.

I fucking gave you a warning, you didn't need to open it and read it to find out what it was about...but thanks anyways.
TechniQ.UK
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United Kingdom391 Posts
January 29 2008 22:18 GMT
#14
hmm ok its fine if you want to rant i wasn't imposing beliefs i was merely answering questions other people had asked me which was the true nature of the blog post.

Fan of: Acer.Scarlett and Liquid'NonY //
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
January 29 2008 22:20 GMT
#15
What Mindcrime said...

I don't have faith...I don't believe in God sure.

I know I am doing exactly the same thing he is doing...THAT IS WHY I SAID THIS IS A RESPONSE TO HIS BLOG

Please fucking read the entire thing, or none of it
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25977 Posts
January 29 2008 22:22 GMT
#16
On January 30 2008 07:16 suresh0t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 06:53 Chill wrote:
Given that Every. Single. One. of your posts at TeamLiquid is about Christianity, would it not make more sense to find another community to post in?


Actually my first 2 blogs were about Starcraft, then my next 2 blogs were about an article I was writing...and yes they were about religion.

I fucking gave you a warning, you didn't need to open it and read it to find out what it was about...but thanks anyways.


I want you not to try to systematically break down religion in a thousands words. Who are you trying to convince, and of what? It's just flame bait.
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suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
January 29 2008 22:24 GMT
#17
On January 30 2008 07:22 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2008 07:16 suresh0t wrote:
On January 30 2008 06:53 Chill wrote:
Given that Every. Single. One. of your posts at TeamLiquid is about Christianity, would it not make more sense to find another community to post in?


Actually my first 2 blogs were about Starcraft, then my next 2 blogs were about an article I was writing...and yes they were about religion.

I fucking gave you a warning, you didn't need to open it and read it to find out what it was about...but thanks anyways.


I want you not to try to systematically break down religion in a thousands words. Who are you trying to convince, and of what? It's just flame bait.


Like I said in the blog, someone asked me to write about why I was an Atheist and my thoughts and experiences with religion...
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-29 22:30:02
January 29 2008 22:28 GMT
#18
On January 30 2008 06:33 Snet wrote:
You wish you were Justin Timberlake?



YES HAVE YOU SEEN THAT NIGGA MOVE...Mind boggling, he is like water


Plus he is banging

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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
January 29 2008 22:30 GMT
#19
Atheism requires no faith at all
Yes it does. Agnosticism doesn't.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
suresh0t
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States295 Posts
January 29 2008 22:32 GMT
#20
Faith is a religious word
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