• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:54
CEST 00:54
KST 07:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202552RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16
Community News
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams7Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0Esports World Cup 2025 - Brackets Revealed19Weekly Cups (July 7-13): Classic continues to roll8Team TLMC #5 - Submission re-extension4
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Power Rank - Esports World Cup 2025 RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing RSL Season 1 - Final Week
Tourneys
Esports World Cup 2025 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava
Brood War
General
BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion [Update] ShieldBattery: 2025 Redesign BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ginuda's JaeDong Interview Series
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues CSL Xiamen International Invitational [CSLPRO] It's CSLAN Season! - Last Chance [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok) Path of Exile CCLP - Command & Conquer League Project
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Post Pic of your Favorite Food! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Ping To Win? Pings And Their…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 672 users

Need avice on new computer

Blogs > Taurent
Post a Reply
Taurent
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada401 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-07 16:50:31
July 07 2008 16:48 GMT
#1
Hi !
I'm buying a new computer and since I don't know much about computers, I'd like to know what you guys think. I'm looking for a gaming computer and my maximum budget is 1000$, but the cheaper the better. I don't want (or can) to build it myself.

I've visited a lot of shops and this is what I found I think was best. Most vendors just offered me a quad-core with a crappy video card -_-

AMD Athlon 64 x2 4800 + / 2.5 GHz
Board Asus M3A AMD770
3 GIG KVR DDR2 667MHz Dual Kit
HD Western 500G 7200 Sata 2 16MB
CV Asus EN8600GT Silent 512MB PCI-E
DVD Burner LG 20x OEM
Integrated sound card
Network card 10/100/1000MBPS
Windows Vista Home Premium 32B

3 years warranty included

Before taxes : 730,95$
After taxes : 825,06$

I'm thinking of maybe changing to dual 3.2GHz ? I don't think a better video card would be any good on a dual 2.5GHz, would it?

Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
July 07 2008 17:14 GMT
#2
this will run anything fine dont even worry/.. get 4 gb ram though
Science without religion is lame, Religion without science is blind
YunhOLee
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Canada2470 Posts
July 07 2008 17:27 GMT
#3
I believe that you could get a 250gb hard drive instead of a 500gb and to instead put a little bit more money on getting a GeForce 8800. Unless that you know or feel that you're going to use more than 250GB.
Live it, love it, play it, kill it. JulyZerg and IPXZerg greatest TL.net fan
Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
July 07 2008 17:45 GMT
#4
Yun makes a good point. I mean, come on!?!?!?! 500 gigs of porn man? No one needs that much.
Mini skirt season is right around the corner. ☻
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
July 07 2008 19:17 GMT
#5
Everything is fine except the RAM.

Try to find at least 800MHz freq. It works better with AMD 64X2s since the tact is synced with the cpu clock (at least that's what I remember, I haven't bought new shit in 2 years). So yeah, either get 2 Gb @ 800Mhz or 4Gb @ 800Mhz (since you're under $1000 anyway). My advice would be to get a better video card (8800 or so) and 2 gb of ram, and, if needed, get 2 more Gb later on. Windows 32bit won't read the full 4gb of ram anyway.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Boona
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden45 Posts
July 07 2008 21:21 GMT
#6
It's true that Intel has been a bit stronger recently but I don't know if that's even true anymore, but as you say a quad-core is unnecessary. A better video card would definitely be a good idea even for that processor, the 8600 will likely not be able to handle SC2 on high setting if that's what your aiming for. If you want an NVidia card you should look at 9800GTX (which recently had a price drop to ~200$) or the in tests better-performing radeon HD 4850 (same price-range).

Also, since you're getting a 32B OS, don't listen to Hypnosis and get 4GB RAM. A 32B OS can handle 4 GB of RAM but that includes the RAM on the video card so you'll be sitting with a lot of it unusable.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 07 2008 21:34 GMT
#7
On July 08 2008 02:45 Showtime! wrote:
Yun makes a good point. I mean, come on!?!?!?! 500 gigs of porn man? No one needs that much.


My 1 terrabyte drive begs to differ.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
TheDCninja
Profile Joined June 2008
United States20 Posts
July 07 2008 22:20 GMT
#8
On July 08 2008 01:48 Taurent wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium 32B


Looks really good, except for the OS.

Unless you are planning on playing games that only run on Vista, I would strongly urge you to stick with XP if at all possible. So many gamers that get Vista run into annoying problems, especially when trying to play older games.
Bring under control the enemy with gorgeous one control.
Vin{MBL}
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
5185 Posts
July 07 2008 22:45 GMT
#9
try to get an ATI radeon 4850
Taurent
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada401 Posts
July 08 2008 00:17 GMT
#10
Thanks a lot for the advices ! It's really, really, really appreciated. I'll be going there tomorrow and see what I can change w/o busting my budget.

On July 08 2008 07:20 TheDCninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2008 01:48 Taurent wrote:
Windows Vista Home Premium 32B


Looks really good, except for the OS.

Unless you are planning on playing games that only run on Vista, I would strongly urge you to stick with XP if at all possible. So many gamers that get Vista run into annoying problems, especially when trying to play older games.


Yeah, I heard a lot of bad things as well on Vista, but newer games will probably stop supporting XP in a couple of months/years
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
July 08 2008 00:54 GMT
#11
On July 08 2008 09:17 Taurent wrote:
Yeah, I heard a lot of bad things as well on Vista, but newer games will probably stop supporting XP in a couple of months/years


That's not gonna happen. New games will support both, and offer DirectX 9 support for XP and maybe 10 for Vista (as a "bonus"). Or they'll just stick with DX9.
They can't ignore XP, everyone knows that Vista is by far the least successful MS operating system, and also the most criticized one (apart from ME... but let's just ignore that blatant re-release of Win98). If they ignore XP, they're shooting themselves in the foot. Or rather: in the head.

If you want to go 64bit I'd advise you to get Vista though, but apparently you want 32bit so I'd suggest sticking with XP.

The 8600 is really bad now. You should get a 8800, 9600 or, ideally, the new HD4850 from ATI. I'm not sure what the prices are but they have dropped quite a bit... should all be around 150 EUR now.

RAM: 800 MHz.

CPU: Phenom or C2D 8400, if it's still possible with your budget. The non-Phenom AMD CPUs are quite out-dated now
johnmaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-08 21:27:42
July 08 2008 21:22 GMT
#12
i recommend "at least" 8800 gt 512 mb or 1000 mb graphic cards so that u will be ready for starcraft 2 and diablo 3.Better if you can get the 200 series info at nvidia.com and also u will need a more powerful power supply unit for your rig if you intend to do SLI later on which is combining 2 same graphic cards in a system. but its better to have 1 more powerful card than to have 2 weaker cards combining together. but 1 8800 gt is enough to get the job done.

and 1 more thing about your ram,, try to get at least 800mhz rams because 667mhz are really slow..and the price increment for 800mhz isnt that much. better if u could get 1066 mhz rams but that actually depends what ram speed your motherboard supports.

this is my computer 's spec for your reference

crosshair 2 formula asus mother board
amd phenom 9600 black edition 2.3 overclocked to 2.53
4gb ram
two 8800 gt 512 SLI-ed
samsung 20x dvd player + burner
gigabyte 800 watt power supply
gigabyte casing



-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
July 08 2008 23:06 GMT
#13
I'd recommend the Intel Q6600 over the athlon.

Intel is blowing AMD out of the water right now. Their core 2 cpus are amazing.
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-09 00:44:48
July 09 2008 00:42 GMT
#14
On July 08 2008 09:54 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2008 09:17 Taurent wrote:
Yeah, I heard a lot of bad things as well on Vista, but newer games will probably stop supporting XP in a couple of months/years


That's not gonna happen. New games will support both, and offer DirectX 9 support for XP and maybe 10 for Vista (as a "bonus"). Or they'll just stick with DX9.
They can't ignore XP, everyone knows that Vista is by far the least successful MS operating system, and also the most criticized one (apart from ME... but let's just ignore that blatant re-release of Win98). If they ignore XP, they're shooting themselves in the foot. Or rather: in the head.

If you want to go 64bit I'd advise you to get Vista though, but apparently you want 32bit so I'd suggest sticking with XP.

Most of the criticisms are unwarranted. Get 2gig + of ram and Vista will be fine. SP1 vs SP3, Vista is the better operating system.

I'm running Vista 64 (the least compatible version) and I haven't had any issues yet. Old games installed are SC, HL2, GTA VC, Q3, CS 1.6, Prey, NFSU 2.

Also, get a ATI 4850 or 4870 for video card. Depending on when you'll be purchasing, ATI's "new" card will be out in August.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 213
Nina 116
StarCraft: Brood War
Sexy 10
ivOry 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever877
League of Legends
Dendi1000
syndereN180
Counter-Strike
Fnx 1681
Stewie2K822
Super Smash Bros
Liquid`Ken37
Other Games
summit1g10126
tarik_tv4288
FrodaN2849
C9.Mang0199
ViBE168
PPMD53
ToD44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 84
• davetesta45
• musti20045 35
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 47
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade401
Other Games
• imaqtpie1573
• Shiphtur431
Upcoming Events
Esports World Cup
12h 6m
Serral vs Cure
Solar vs Classic
OSC
15h 6m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 11h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 15h
CSO Cup
1d 17h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d 19h
Bonyth vs Sziky
Dewalt vs Hawk
Hawk vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs Dewalt
Mihu vs Bonyth
Zhanhun vs QiaoGege
QiaoGege vs Fengzi
FEL
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs Zhanhun
Dewalt vs Mihu
Hawk vs Sziky
Sziky vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs Hawk
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs Bonyth
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Xiamen Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
Murky Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL20 Non-Korean Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
CC Div. A S7
Underdog Cup #2
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25

Upcoming

CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
FEL Cracov 2025
HCC Europe
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.