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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 05 2008 05:15 GMT
#1
Time for a completely new mouse problem. For those of you that don't know, I got the Razer diamondback a couple of months ago.

For the last few days I've been noticing a problem where the mouse doesn't always respond correctly. I move the mouse, and the pointer on the screen barely moves. I thought it was that I wasn't using a mouse pad, but I finally confirmed my suspicion that I have been lifting the mouse off the table with my hand.

It seems most noticeable when I am tensed up, but it also happens when I'm randomly surfing to a lesser extent. I realized in my last game that I'm squeezing the mouse between my thumb and pinky which is pushing it upward. In a fit of frustration when I made a mistake or something in my game, I squeezed the mouse a bit harder than usual, and it literally popped out of my hand and flipped over. For a second I was like "WTF?" and then it all suddenly became clear to me.

Do I go back to my boring Dell mouse where I don't recall having this problem? I'll feel like an idiot for buying a mouse and then not using it...

On a separate note, this has been frustrating because I played a bunch of games today and I know it was impacting me, but I had to resist the temptation to point out to my opponents and the observers that I'm having mouse problems. That's just what they want to hear amirite? But if you dodge because you are having mouse problems, you'll get a similar response.

Ugh... just a frustrating thing.

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 05 2008 05:18 GMT
#2
I thought about it some more...

I can try holding it differently, but I highly doubt I'll be able to get used to holding it another way. Well, I'll try it tomorrow and see how it goes.

Alternately, I can try attaching something to the sides of the mouse to make it less slippery (especially when the hand sweats a bit). This might make it harder for my hand to lift the mouse off the table...
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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
July 05 2008 05:23 GMT
#3
I had this with a new mouse I had as well, I did the thumb and pinky thing as well. Are you placing you whole hand on the mouse like with a bigger one, if not then what I did even though it didn't get rid of the frustration (but lessened it) was to place a tissue over the mouse pad. Thats about as much as I can think of, just look at the way your holding the mouse and if your not putting enough pressure on it to force it down onto your mouse pad.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 05 2008 05:24 GMT
#4
On July 05 2008 14:23 Spenguin wrote:
I had this with a new mouse I had as well, I did the thumb and pinky thing as well. Are you placing you whole hand on the mouse like with a bigger one, if not then what I did even though it didn't get rid of the frustration (but lessened it) was to place a tissue over the mouse pad. Thats about as much as I can think of, just look at the way your holding the mouse and if your not putting enough pressure on it to force it down onto your mouse pad.

I think you are right, since I generally tend to hold it with my hand positioned fairly far backwards. When I move my hand forward to cover more of the mouse, my fingers begin to go off the ends of the mouse buttons which isn't ideal, but it puts a lot more weight on the mouse and also positions my thumb and pinky finger differently so that they don't lift up the mouse. I'm going to try this tomorrow, and then get revenge for my losses (or get pwned, who knows).
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 05 2008 06:26 GMT
#5
none of my palm touches the razer mouse, and my fingers click near the middle of the button

works for me :o~~
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 05 2008 06:46 GMT
#6
On July 05 2008 15:26 paper wrote:
none of my palm touches the razer mouse, and my fingers click near the middle of the button

works for me :o~~

Do you rest any part of your hand/arm on the desk/table?
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
July 05 2008 06:46 GMT
#7
My palm is off the mouse but its pretty damn close almost touching, just enough for the movementz
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
July 05 2008 06:57 GMT
#8
On July 05 2008 15:46 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2008 15:26 paper wrote:
none of my palm touches the razer mouse, and my fingers click near the middle of the button

works for me :o~~

Do you rest any part of your hand/arm on the desk/table?


a little above my wrist where the palm is about to start

but this is at the edge of the table so my hand and arm are in a straight line
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 05 2008 07:00 GMT
#9
On July 05 2008 15:57 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2008 15:46 micronesia wrote:
On July 05 2008 15:26 paper wrote:
none of my palm touches the razer mouse, and my fingers click near the middle of the button

works for me :o~~

Do you rest any part of your hand/arm on the desk/table?


a little above my wrist where the palm is about to start

but this is at the edge of the table so my hand and arm are in a straight line

So the edge of your palm stays flat on the table... or does it move as you move the mouse?
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-05 07:09:21
July 05 2008 07:07 GMT
#10
my sensitivity is high enough that my hand pivots from the same position on the table

even if i lift the mouse, itll still be touching the table's edge

essentially, i'm controlling the entire mouse's movement with my thumb and ring finger, (edit) which is easy with the diamondback because it goes in/downward on both sides and i can support it vertically if need be without pressing hard
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Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
July 05 2008 13:16 GMT
#11
I think you aren't a "finger" user like me. I rest my hand very lightly on my mouse (g3), the base of the palm of my hand rests on the mousepad and thats what supports the weight. My grip on my mouse is actually very light, and I use my thumb/fingers only to nudge it left or right.

I dont know how big your mouse is, but I can see why someone with a grip like yours would have a problem with a mouse the size of the g3 (I actually couldn't figure out why you had this problem first, until I changed my grip to rest my palm on the mouse and have it take the weight - and I started having that problem!). Maybe get a bigger mouse, something as big as a g5?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 05 2008 13:21 GMT
#12
Holy crap how hard are you holding the mouse? It would help if you're more relaxed. I tried to lift my diamondback up like you did and it required significant pressure to do so.

Relax~
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iLjh
Profile Joined February 2008
United States160 Posts
July 05 2008 15:15 GMT
#13
there are really two options available for you at the moment...

either a: you stick it out and just wait until you get used to the mouse (this will take approx. 1-2 months minimum)

or b: you buy a mouse with a difference shape, if you can't get used to the razer form, i would either recommend upgrading to the newer razer models that no longer have the old classic "diamondback/copperhead" shape or switching to logitech which supports an entirely different mouse shape and feel, which in this case sounds more fitting to your hand grip
FuJi
Profile Joined January 2008
United States104 Posts
July 05 2008 16:35 GMT
#14
On July 05 2008 22:16 Gandalf wrote:
I think you aren't a "finger" user like me. I rest my hand very lightly on my mouse (g3), the base of the palm of my hand rests on the mousepad and thats what supports the weight. My grip on my mouse is actually very light, and I use my thumb/fingers only to nudge it left or right.

This is exactly how I use my mouse.

I would say stick with the mouse and adjust. I'm curious to know how exactly you hold your mouse.
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stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
July 05 2008 18:40 GMT
#15
It's much worse when you actually have a faulty mouse. Sometimes my mouse will stick when I move it diagonally. It will have this symptom sometimes more and sometimes less. I can't figure out why this is. It's incredibly annoying in games when this happens. It seems fine when I start the game, but then I move it diagonally and the pointer freezes and shivers and causes lots of misclicks. So I've often paused games so I can fuss with the cord, try cleaning out the LED area under it. Sometimes that fixes it. I know exactly what you mean about wanting to make excuses or dodge due to mouse issues.

*sigh*

Time to get a new mouse soon.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
July 06 2008 16:10 GMT
#16
Yesterday I played around and found something I'm more comfortable with. I didn't have the same problem when I put more of my hand's weight on the mouse (by reaching a little further back on it). I also taped down a mousepad... all I have to figure out now is exactly where I want the mousepad to be (I don't like it right up against the edge of the table... same with the keyboard)
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