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Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 19:07 GMT
#1
After using a browser for a while (FF 2 and now FF 3), I can't load any webpages, but I can still internet just fine. If I'm watching DAUM or have BitTorrent open, I can continue streaming / torrenting but when I try to internet a webpage it gives me the cliché "make sure you're connected to the internet check firewall blah blah blah." And a couple of times, I've tried using IE, but I get the same thing. So I can't see any webpages, but the internet is definitely still connected (including the globe picture next to my network icon in the system tray).

I'm not sure if it affects SC, since I haven't been playing out of fear. I'd google this problem but I'm not sure I'd find anything for "After using a browser for a while I can't load any webpages but I can still internet some other things."

The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
ydg
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States690 Posts
June 19 2008 19:35 GMT
#2
peerguardian?
The only courage that matters is the kind that gets you from one moment to the next.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5225 Posts
June 19 2008 19:38 GMT
#3
howd you get here?
Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-19 19:40:36
June 19 2008 19:39 GMT
#4
try with another browser to see if it is a browser problem but first, how did you post/get here? Using another browser?
"Eyes in the sky."
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 19:39 GMT
#5
On June 20 2008 04:35 ydg wrote:
peerguardian?

What should I take this to mean? I looked it up on Wikipedia, but it doesn't seem to help me with anything...
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
June 19 2008 19:40 GMT
#6
That problem recently happened to me too in FF2. I got Opera and still no luck. The only thing that worked was IE but that stopped working too after a day. I then got Seamonkey and it worked perfectly. After a few days, FF, Opera, and IE all worked fine again and i switched back to FF.

(this was before FF3 and Opera 9.5 were released.)
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 19:43 GMT
#7
On June 20 2008 04:40 o3.power91 wrote:
That problem recently happened to me too in FF2. I got Opera and still no luck. The only thing that worked was IE but that stopped working too after a day. I then got Seamonkey and it worked perfectly. After a few days, FF, Opera, and IE all worked fine again and i switched back to FF.

(this was before FF3 and Opera 9.5 were released.)

Interesting, I guess I'll try it? Sounds crazy but I guess I'll try anything, it's pretty annoying -_-
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
June 19 2008 20:13 GMT
#8
Peer guardian is something torrent users use to block Government IP's and such, but it can also disable HTTP:// sources that will stop some websites from loading, or just remove bits and pieces of a website. I'm not real tech savvy, but the only advice I can give you is check your internet options.

Hopefully you aren't dumb like me and switched the browser to a proxy setting and forgot about it 2 days later and it just so happens the proxy doesn't work. I was going ape shit yelling "My computer got a virus! Screw the world!" and here all it was is I had to change my settings back to normal...

Sorry I can't really help but good luck fixing it.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 20:25 GMT
#9
On June 20 2008 05:13 SCC-Faust wrote:
Peer guardian is something torrent users use to block Government IP's and such, but it can also disable HTTP:// sources that will stop some websites from loading, or just remove bits and pieces of a website. I'm not real tech savvy, but the only advice I can give you is check your internet options.

Hopefully you aren't dumb like me and switched the browser to a proxy setting and forgot about it 2 days later and it just so happens the proxy doesn't work. I was going ape shit yelling "My computer got a virus! Screw the world!" and here all it was is I had to change my settings back to normal...

Sorry I can't really help but good luck fixing it.

I bet I'm slightly less tech savvy ... would that be browser options or is it somewhere on the control panel?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
June 19 2008 20:30 GMT
#10
mine does this too, if i close firefox and repoen it it works. but sometimes i dont want to close firefox because il have a video streamed that i havnt watched yet. its a nuisance.
wraiths go pew pew
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-19 21:25:19
June 19 2008 21:15 GMT
#11
1.) Check if it's a DNS problem.
If ping teamliquid.net doesn't work, but ping 67.228.171.232 does, then your DNS server doesn't work temporarily.
In this case you can either:
- change it manually (in the TCP/IP settings, where you also enter your IP address and things like that. Control Center -> Network or so -> TCP/IP v4 -> rightclick -> Properties and then you're basically there.
If you don't know which one to use just use the two from opendns.com: 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220)
- reconnect to receive a new DNS server address
- or just wait until it works again

This is very likely in a case like this, be sure to check this.
The rest is unlikely but it's what I'd try first:

2.) Disable personal firewall if you use one (might be misconfiguration, a bug, or whatever). Personal firewalls are bad anyway.

3.) Check your c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts file (it's a normal text file) if something strange is in there (some malware uses that to redirect hostnames to a different IP address, so you land somewhere else (and maybe this location doesn't exist anymore)). By default, there are only the 2 localhost/loopback entries ("127.0.0.1 localhost" and "::1 localhost") in that file. Maybe just the 127.0.0.1 one if your system isn't IPv6 ready)

4.) Do a traceroute to a few common websites (that shows you the "route" of your connection), command: tracert teamliquid.net

5.) Scan for malware etc. Virus scanners are NOT bad (except for the performance overhead) and you should use one.


If you don't know how to enter these commands: Start -> Run -> "cmd" (in Vista type it in the search box) then type them there
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 21:19 GMT
#12
How do I change my DNS server?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
June 19 2008 21:19 GMT
#13
edited it
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 21:25 GMT
#14
Thanks!
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
June 19 2008 21:28 GMT
#15
Just to add, if you can torrent but can't open web pages, the torrent may be using up all of your connections. Try to lower down the number of connections your torrent client makes. In uTorrent its located at Preferences > BitTorrent > Number of Connections.

Hope that helps.
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #26
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 19 2008 21:30 GMT
#16
On June 20 2008 06:28 dyodyo wrote:
Just to add, if you can torrent but can't open web pages, the torrent may be using up all of your connections. Try to lower down the number of connections your torrent client makes. In uTorrent its located at Preferences > BitTorrent > Number of Connections.

Hope that helps.

It still happens when I close BitTorrent too though, but I've had that problem as well. It's usually when I'm uploading a lot.

So just changing my DNS under v4 is okay, I don't have to do it under v6?
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
June 19 2008 21:36 GMT
#17
Just v4 yeah
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-21 05:00:06
June 21 2008 04:27 GMT
#18
Alright, the problem still exists when I'm using OpenDNS, here are some screen shots and explanations of what was going on

Here I used explorer instead of Firefox while the problem existed. I used IE option to "diagnose problems." It said it couldn't connect to Teamliquid.net, but I did a tracert and this is what showed up.
[image loading]


Here is another tracert to Teamliquid.net just to see if it works, and also BitTorrent open and showing Uploads, even though I can't browse internets. I closed BitTorrent and the problem persisted.
[image loading]


My "hosts" file is huge, it has tons of entries, here's a sample


127.0.0.1 barnandfence.com
127.0.0.1 batsearch.com
127.0.0.1 baygraphicsllc.com
127.0.0.1 bbbsearch.com
127.0.0.1 bb-search.com
127.0.0.1 bdsmlibrary.net
127.0.0.1 bdsmpornmag.com
127.0.0.1 www.bdsmpornmag.com
127.0.0.1 bearshare.download-me.info
127.0.0.1 www.bearshare.download-me.info

It's much much longer than that too. Is this broken and if so how should I fix it?

Edit: I guess all that stuff is from Spybot? At least I assume so. I'm not sure if this negatively affects anything, or if changing it would negatively affect Spybot. I'm ignorant

127.0.0.1 localhost
::1 localhost
# Start of entries inserted by Spybot - Search & Destroy
...then a ton of things
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
June 21 2008 08:22 GMT
#19
each of these lines in your hosts file blocks the website on the right. (it redirects any connections to such a domain to your own comp).
Check the proxysettings in your browser(s).
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
June 21 2008 08:28 GMT
#20
My browser is set to "No Proxy"
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
trancertt
Profile Joined February 2008
Croatia37 Posts
June 21 2008 10:08 GMT
#21
hmm i had same problem some time ago, just used smitfraudfix by siri and it all turned well
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-06-21 13:43:22
June 21 2008 13:27 GMT
#22
The tracert or ping commands show you that your system is able to connect to the sites but when the browsers can't then that's strange.
I'd guess you almost definitely have some malware running. Use some scanners to find out more about it. Unless it's a harmless case, you also should reinstall Windows.
Note that some malware can be highly sophisticated, hide itself from scanners etc... if it has full rootkit functionality you won't be able to detect it at all from within the compromised system. You then have to scan your system from a different operating system (Linux Live CD, or scan over the network) in order to find these. It's very unlikely that this is the case but that kind of malware is one of the reasons why scanners shouldn't be trusted blindly.

You can still try one more thing: renaming the Firefox profile folder temporarily (so that Firefox will revert to its standard settings, no extensions etc.), then restarting Firefox and trying it again.
The profile folder is:
c:\Documents and Settings\yourname\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\xxxxxxxxx.default in XP
c:\Users\yourname\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\xxxxxxxxx.default in Vista
The "xxxxxxx" means random characters.
If it works then, then either you or a malware program has messed with some settings of Firefox (and IE too).

In any case, if you do have malware, try to find out what it is and how it installed itself so that you can prevent it the next time.
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